The DNA of Jesus?

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Which woman? The context shows that it was not Mary by Eve:

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."

God was speaking to Eve, not Mary.

Gen 3:14 So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."

No indication that between what we read in verse 13 and verse 15, God has changed which woman He is referring to.

Gen 3:16 To the woman He said: "I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you."

Again, women before Mary had pain in childbirth. God is still talking to Eve.


The enmity between Satan (the serpent) and Eve and her descendants did not begin with Mary.

Yes, He caused her, while still a virgin, to conceive. "Doing great things for me" is not the same as "caused me to be immaculately conceived."

Show me from the Bible that this is true. I can think of no verse in the Bible that says that Mary was preserved from original sin and personal sins. Only Jesus Christ is spoken of in the Bible as being without sin.

Yes, that is why we need a Saviour as Mary did.

Again, show me this from the Bible.

Nowhere are we told that Jesus Christ was immaculate because Mary was immaculate.

This is traditional Christian belief, there is nothing new in what I am telling you.

Your interpretations of scripture are new innovations, human founded traditions.

Traditional Christianity maintains the same interpretation scripture over time.

Example:

“O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides.” Athanasius, Homily of the Papyrus of Turin, 71:216 AD 373.

More than one and a half millennia ago, I hold the same view today. 1653 years later.

“This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one.” Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).

Same again. I believe this 1782 years later.

Your “ Bible alone “ understanding of scripture can mean anything from interpreter to interpreter, you are simply following one of the many conflicted human founded interpretations of scripture.
You aren’t following “ Bible alone “ you are following opinion alone, because what the bible means is simply a matter of your opinion.
In effect, it doesn’t matter what scripture you are given if your opinion is your highest authority, you will simply interpret the scripture to mean what you want it to mean.
Sola scriptura is the deadliest snare ever devised.
The Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth if you really believe scripture.

If people refused to listen even to the Church as the last recourse in scripture, you were to treat them as outside the Church.

Jesus established an Apostolic leadership of bishops, the Apostles appointed bishops and a hierarchy to teach the truth of the scriptures.

Jesus didn’t leave the Bible and tell everyone to interpret it and decide what it means to them. This is the human founded chaos of Bible alonism.

 

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This is traditional Christian belief, there is nothing new in what I am telling you.

Your interpretations of scripture are new innovations, human founded traditions.

Traditional Christianity maintains the same interpretation scripture over time.

Example:

“O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides.” Athanasius, Homily of the Papyrus of Turin, 71:216 AD 373.

More than one and a half millennia ago, I hold the same view today. 1653 years later.

“This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one.” Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).

Same again. I believe this 1782 years later.

Your “ Bible alone “ understanding of scripture can mean anything from interpreter to interpreter, you are simply following one of the many conflicted human founded interpretations of scripture.
You aren’t following “ Bible alone “ you are following opinion alone, because what the bible means is simply a matter of your opinion.
In effect, it doesn’t matter what scripture you are given if your opinion is your highest authority, you will simply interpret the scripture to mean what you want it to mean.
Sola scriptura is the deadliest snare ever devised.
The Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth if you really believe scripture.

If people refused to listen even to the Church as the last recourse in scripture, you were to treat them as outside the Church.

Jesus established an Apostolic leadership of bishops, the Apostles appointed bishops and a hierarchy to teach the truth of the scriptures.

Jesus didn’t leave the Bible and tell everyone to interpret it and decide what it means to them. This is the human founded chaos of Bible alonism.

AGAIN - you have only given what mortal men have said.
Where is the Scripture references?

 

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AGAIN - you have only given what mortal men have said.
Where is the Scripture references?

Baptists have mortal men theologians who interpret scripture as well, you believe them I assume.

I have given the scripture references, anyone can see them throughout my posts in this thread.

The problem is scriptural interpretation is a matter of opinion in bible alonism, I quote scripture and people decide for themselves what it means.

These church Fathers and Christian scholars are famous for knowing scriptures, why is their interpretation of scripture wrong?

Baptists are mortal men as well, why should I trust their interpretations of scripture?

 

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So you don't have any Scriptural support!

Since you don't, I am closing this thread -

AND THERE IS NO NEED TO RESTART YOUR SUBJECTS OF THIS THREAD