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The Doctrine of RPW

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Marooncat79

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The tempo and instruments are a terriary issue

The Theology of the song is much more important. Words mean things.
 

37818

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You are missing the point. I am telling what the framers of the 1689 Second London Baptist Confession meant. They called the Lord's Day the Christian Sabbath, a day of holy rest unto the Lord. Go back and read. You are arguing a different topic.
I am arguing the view point, that Biblically there is no such thing as a "Christian Sabbath" as such. That Christians interpret the Bible for there to be such a thing, I also have no doubt.
 

Yeshua1

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I am arguing the view point, that Biblically there is no such thing as a "Christian Sabbath" as such. That Christians interpret the Bible for there to be such a thing, I also have no doubt.
Are we to keep Sunday as the Lord's day?
 

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I am arguing the view point, that Biblically there is no such thing as a "Christian Sabbath" as such. That Christians interpret the Bible for there to be such a thing, I also have no doubt.
Take it up with the framers of the Confession.
 

37818

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I think the idea of a RPW teaching is greate idea. But there is no definitive presentation what it should consist. From the written word of God, good. If one is going to come up with a list. And what should be the order? We understand from the written word there are churches and believers did meet.



1. In prayer to God as to His will in the matter.
2, To worship God.
3. As a work to be commited to God.
4. . . .

Modern services have a Pastor Teacher give some teachings from the written word.

Now I did not pin any references from the written word here as yet.
 

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This position, succinctly, is that whatever is not prohibited is permitted. It throws the door wide open to pragmatic decisions and momentary fads.
The only thing that keeps normative churches from going off the deep end is sound judgment. Once that is lacking anything goes.
 
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Yeshua1

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This position, succinctly, is that whatever is not prohibited is permitted. It throws the door wide open to pragmatic decisions and momentary fads.
We would see it as being how God "regulated" NT Worship, as we are now under the Holy Spirit leading.
 

Salty

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This position, succinctly, is that whatever is not prohibited is permitted. It throws the door wide open to pragmatic decisions and momentary fads.

Not totally, - unless you have a dictatorial pastor- and then he would probally more conservative.

But here is the definition : The normative principle of worship is a Christian theological principle that teaches that worship in the Church can include those elements that are not prohibited by Scripture.[1] The normative principle teaches that whatever is not prohibited in Scripture is permitted in worship, as long as it is agreeable to the peace and unity of the Church. In short, there must be agreement with the general practice of the Church and no prohibition in Scripture for whatever is done in worship.

Notice: "agreement with the general practice of the Church"


Of course, there will always be those extreme examples
 

Yeshua1

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Not totally, - unless you have a dictatorial pastor- and then he would probally more conservative.

But here is the definition : The normative principle of worship is a Christian theological principle that teaches that worship in the Church can include those elements that are not prohibited by Scripture.[1] The normative principle teaches that whatever is not prohibited in Scripture is permitted in worship, as long as it is agreeable to the peace and unity of the Church. In short, there must be agreement with the general practice of the Church and no prohibition in Scripture for whatever is done in worship.

Notice: "agreement with the general practice of the Church"


Of course, there will always be those extreme examples
That view seems to be more in accord with hiw Baptists view things being determined!
 

rlvaughn

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...The normative principle teaches that whatever is not prohibited in Scripture is permitted in worship, as long as it is agreeable to the peace and unity of the Church. In short, there must be agreement with the general practice of the Church and no prohibition in Scripture for whatever is done in worship.

Notice: "agreement with the general practice of the Church"
First, I am curious where Wikipedia got that phrase. I don't recall usually, if ever, seeing that as a part of the definition of the normative principle. Second, what does that even mean? If everybody in one local church is in agreement and it is not prohibited, then it is alright? If it agrees with the general practice of the Baptist denomination, the nominal church, some universal church, or just what? I am struggling to see how it does not mean anything and everything.
 

Salty

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First, I am curious where Wikipedia got that phrase. I don't recall usually, if ever, seeing that as a part of the definition of the normative principle. Second, what does that even mean? If everybody in one local church is in agreement and it is not prohibited, then it is alright? If it agrees with the general practice of the Baptist denomination, the nominal church, some universal church, or just what? I am struggling to see how it does not mean anything and everything.

NO - not talking about the non-exisitant Baptist denomination - rather the local church.
So if First Baptist thinks its okay to have a band - so be it.
and if Second Baptist Right across the street - says no CCM - only traditional hymns - then so be it
(yea - second Bap probably split from First Bap over the picture they wanted painted in the Baptistery.
 
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