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The Equality of Jesus to The Father

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Aaron

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SavedByGrace said:
If as you say that Jesus Christ is not YHWH, then He cannot be Almighty God, and therefore a created being!
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That's not what I said, but I've posed some questions you have yet to answer.

You should read Exodus 3 again, and see the Names that are used for "The Angel of YHWH", Who appeared to Moses. He is called God, YHWH, and even "I AM WHO I AM"! All this is not here used for God the Father, but Jesus Christ!
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Matthew 22:44 Who is called LORD, here? And who is Lord?
 
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I believe that Jesus has always existed with the Father.I believe during the time of Abraham He was even Melchisedec,

Heb 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Who else could He have been?
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SavedByGrace

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Matthew 22:44 Who is called LORD, here? And who is Lord?
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This is a quote from Psalm 110:1. "Yahweh said to Adonai..." The Lord said to My Lord".

In the Hebrew, both Names are used for Elohim, the One True God. Both a equal in their meaning. In fact, in verse 5 it reads "The Lord ("Adon", singular from) at thy right hand...", no doubt referring to "My Lord", Jesus Christ, Who is at the "Right Hand" of "Yahweh". There are many Hebrew manuscripts, that have in verse 5, "Yahweh", instead of "Adon", which is used for Jesus Christ, Who is here called "YHWH"!

Gotcha!
 
Aaron

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SavedByGrace said:
This is a quote from Psalm 110:1. "Yahweh said to Adonai..." The Lord said to My Lord".

In the Hebrew, both Names are used for Elohim, the One True God. Both a equal in their meaning. In fact, in verse 5 it reads "The Lord ("Adon", singular from) at thy right hand...", no doubt referring to "My Lord", Jesus Christ, Who is at the "Right Hand" of "Yahweh".
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Correct. Yahweh, the Father.

Gotcha!
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I must have missed it.

There are many Hebrew manuscripts, that have in verse 5, "Yahweh", instead of "Adon", which is used for Jesus Christ, Who is here called "YHWH"!
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Your dictionaries are no help here. Here it is Yahweh, the Father, said to the Son.

You can say God the Father said to God the Son. Or Yahweh, the Father said to Yahweh the Son.

That's what I said at the very beginning, but you said no. Jesus is 100% Yahweh. But that's like saying Jesus is 100% the Trinity. Can you say Jesus, the Father, Jesus the Son, and Jesus the Holy Spirit?

That's what you're saying.
 
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SavedByGrace

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Aaron said:
Correct. Yahweh, the Father.

I must have missed it.

Your dictionaries are no help here. Here it is Yahweh, the Father, said to the Son.

You can say God the Father said to God the Son. Or Yahweh, the Father said to Yahweh the Son.

That's what I said at the very beginning, but you said no. Jesus is 100% Yahweh. But that's like saying Jesus is 100% the Trinity. Can you say Jesus, the Father, Jesus the Son, and Jesus the Holy Spirit?

That's what you're saying.
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Jesus Christ is 100% YHWH, as are The Father and The Holy Spirit, Three EQUAL Persons, One Godhead
 
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SavedByGrace said:
Jesus Christ is 100% YHWH, as are The Father and The Holy Spirit, Three EQUAL Persons, One Godhead
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Why do you keep using a false name for God. There is no "W" in Hebrew. It's actually a double V V and has the natural sound of "V". The KJV got it right it's just that J and "Y" have the same pronunciation. Jehovah as in "Ya" Spelt like it sounds Would be Yahova. If you don't believe me ask a Rabi. I did.
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MB said:
Yes it is. There is no one else who could hold the title of King of righteousness, and King of Peace.
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The account in Hebrews chapter 7 reads, "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God...but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually" (verses 1-3). Note the words, "MADE LIKE", which means that he was a TYPE of the Son of God, not that he was.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
The account in Hebrews chapter 7 reads, "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God...but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually" (verses 1-3). Note the words, "MADE LIKE", which means that he was a TYPE of the Son of God, not that he was.
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There are good Bible believing and teaching Baptists who believe Melchizedek was the preincarnate Christ, such as John R, Rice.
 
Aaron

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SavedByGrace said:
Jesus Christ is 100% YHWH, as are The Father and The Holy Spirit, Three EQUAL Persons, One Godhead
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One more time,

Yes. LORD is one name for the Trinity. As are Elohim, God; El Elyon, The Most High, Highest; El Shaddai, God Almighty; and The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. (We are baptized in the name--not names--of The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.)

So where the Tetragrammaton is used, I can substitute the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

So the question is, can one intelligibly say Jesus Christ is 100% the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?

Of course not, unless I'm surreptitiously trying to implant some form of oneness doctrine.
 
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