The Eternal Covenant of Grace.

[Charlie24]

As I said previously oh 'great Calvinist-slayer in your own mind', you totally miss the gist of the point made.

Works/deeds are the very definer of the just and the unjust:

15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust. Acts 24

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. Jn 5

None of you shallow-minded evangelicals that hold to a man-centric soteriology will give God the credit for being the source of these works.

The works because you are saved not the works to get saved.

Those that have done good are those who trusted in Christ and their works do follow them.

 

[kyredneck]

You want to be critical

ROFL, @Charlie24 wants to stamp out 'CALVINISM' (maybe we'll finally have world peace if he succeeds), he wears it on his sleeve, every post he makes reverts to 'CALVINISM'.

 

[kyredneck]

The works because you are saved not the works to get saved.

You glibly insert that word 'saved' into discussions where 'saved' is nowhere to be found in the text being discussed.

 

[Charlie24]

ROFL, @Charlie24 wants to stamp out 'CALVINISM' (maybe we'll finally have world peace if he succeeds), he wears it on his sleeve, every post he makes reverts to 'CALVINISM'.

Whatever you say, K, it's ok with me.

 

[Charlie24]

You glibly insert that word 'saved' into discussions where 'saved' is nowhere to be found in the text being discussed.

Psalms 37:3

"Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed."

Trusting in the Lord is salvation! Doing good follows the trust in the Lord.

It's called being conformed into the image of Christ. The good is all the work of the Holy Spirit through faith.

 

[Charlie24]

Psalms 37:3

"Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed."

Trusting in the Lord is salvation! Doing good follows the trust in the Lord.

It's called being conformed into the image of Christ. The good is all the work of the Holy Spirit through faith.

Any good works that i may have are not mine in reality, they belong to the One who planned, organized, and gave me the privilege to do something in the name of my Christ. He, God the Holy Spirit is One who makes my good works possible through faith.

 

[kyredneck]

Whatever you say, K, it's ok with me.

News for you Charlie, you will never ever stamp out the sweet message of God's Sovereign Grace to His saints, no matter how much you hate it.

 

[Zaatar71]

Ok, if you're into Hyper-Calvinism.

What if John Gill was grossly ignorant of Scripture?

You were invited to show it openly, you declined. You claimed to have read much of Gill??? show where he was wrong then! if you read so much, it should be easy to do. Do you have any of his books? here Alan has posted his writing, at least a nice portion of it. You do not have to go far. Just click on the links and show what you claim. You do not do it, because you cannot do it. You cannot explain the idea of a Covenant keeping God, so you avoid it. That would be fine, except you speak of it without showing any knowledge of it. That is the difference. Ask Alan, or BF, Or Martin, or the other men, they can all address it, that is the difference

 

[Zaatar71]

Gill is over the top with Sovereignty, he viewed the Elect justified before they came to actual faith in Christ.

This leads to several other problems related to "hyper."

That is not what the Calvinists believe that I know personally.

work though any section he wrote and demonstrate what you say. answer post 19 if you would,Thanks,

 

[Charlie24]

News for you Charlie, you will never ever stamp out the sweet message of God's Sovereign Grace to His saints, no matter how much you hate it.

I look forward to the day when we will all be in one accord.

 

[Charlie24]

You were invited to show it openly, you declined. You claimed to have read much of Gill??? show where he was wrong then! if you read so much, it should be easy to do. Do you have any of his books? here Alan has posted his writing, at least a nice portion of it. You do not have to go far. Just click on the links and show what you claim. You do not do it, because you cannot do it. You cannot explain the idea of a Covenant keeping God, so you avoid it. That would be fine, except you speak of it without showing any knowledge of it. That is the difference. Ask Alan, or BF, Or Martin, or the other men, they can all address it, that is the difference

Let's let Christ make that determination, we have no authority over the Scripture to convince anyone of anything.

 

[Charlie24]

work though any section he wrote and demonstrate what you say. answer post 19 if you would,Thanks,

LOL, you can't get enough of it, can you?

Already proven the point I wanted to make.

Us arguing as we have been doing for months will accomplish nothing.