The Furnace of Affliction

[KenH]

Where did Jesus do His healings? On this current earth or the new earth?

So you are only referring to the specific people that Christ healed while on this earth, and not in a broader sense. Correct?

 

[Ascetic X]

So you are only referring to the specific people that Christ healed while on this earth, and not in a broader sense. Correct?

1 Peter 2:24​

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

 

[KenH]

1 Peter 2:24​

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

A reference to Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

"Sin is a disease, a natural and hereditary one, an epidemic distemper, that reaches to all men, and to all the powers and faculties of their souls, and members of their bodies; and which is nauseous and loathsome, and in itself mortal and incurable; nor can it be healed by any creature, or anything that a creature can do. Christ is the only physician, and his blood the balm and sovereign medicine; this cleanses from all sin."

- excerpt from John Gill's commentary on 1 Peter 2:24

 

[Ascetic X]

A reference to Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

"Sin is a disease, a natural and hereditary one, an epidemic distemper, that reaches to all men, and to all the powers and faculties of their souls, and members of their bodies; and which is nauseous and loathsome, and in itself mortal and incurable; nor can it be healed by any creature, or anything that a creature can do. Christ is the only physician, and his blood the balm and sovereign medicine; this cleanses from all sin."

- excerpt from John Gill's commentary on 1 Peter 2:24

Sin is never spoken of in the Bible as being healed. Only diseases are spoken of being healed.

Jesus carried our sin and our sicknesses upon Him on the cross, so we no longer have to carry them.

Isaiah 53 NASB

3 He was despised and abandoned by men,
A man of great pain and familiar with sickness;
And like one from whom people hide their faces,
He was despised, and we had no regard for Him.

4 However, it was our sicknesses that He Himself bore,
And our pains that He carried;
Yet we ourselves assumed that He had been afflicted,
Struck down by God, and humiliated.

5 But He was pierced for our offenses,
He was crushed for our wrongdoings;
The punishment for our well-being was laid upon Him,
And by His wounds we are healed.

 

[KenH]

Sin is never spoken of in the Bible as being healed. Only diseases are spoken of being healed.

You are incorrect. I suggest reading all of Isaiah 53.

 

[Ascetic X]

You are incorrect. I suggest reading all of Isaiah 53.

In Isaiah 53, sicknesses are mentioned and healing is mentioned. The healing corresponds to the sicknesses.

The New Testament does not speak of sins being healed, but forgiven and forsaken. The old nature, the old man, the sinful nature of the flesh, is said to be crucified, not healed.

 

[Ben1445]

Satan is on God's "leash"; just as every creation of God is.

Do you mean God is dragging Satan around and making him do what he does?

This is ultimately a “God made the devil make me do it” theology.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

The catastrophes faced by Job were God's plan and He was 100% sovereign. However, Satan was 100% responsible for his misdeeds.
We can see a somewhat similar situation shown by Acts 2:23, "Him being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain."

 

[Ben1445]

The catastrophes faced by Job were God's plan and He was 100% sovereign. However, Satan was 100% responsible for his misdeeds.
We can see a somewhat similar situation shown by Acts 2:23, "Him being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain."

“God made the devil make me do it” theology.

Does the free range that God gave to Satan mean nothing?
There were only the limitations put on Satan.
Don’t touch Job, and later, don’t take his life. Beyond that, Satan had permission, not instructions.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

“God made the devil make me do it” theology.

Does the free range that God gave to Satan mean nothing?
There were only the limitations put on Satan.
Don’t touch Job, and later, don’t take his life. Beyond that, Satan had permission, not instructions.

If my post looked like what I've underlined, I apologize, as my intent was just the opposite. God is 100% sovereign in my life, but if/when I sin, I can't claim that I'm not to be blamed because "God made me do it".
Trying to parse God's sovereignty and man's responsibility using human logic is futility. Likewise, totally understanding how Christ could be fully God and fully man at the same time is beyond human understanding. God holds much about Himself in secret, but he has revealed much to us in His Word and we need to heed and obey what He has revealed. Deut. 29:29

 

[Ascetic X]

Sovereign does not mean causing everything that happens. It means being the ultimate authority and lawmaker, with no external force able to oppose the sovereign entity. Sovereign kings never controlled or caused everything single thing that happened in their kingdom.