Is this what the Philippian jailor was asking?:
Acts Chapter 16
30 | and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to go to heaven? |
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Acts Chapter 16
30 | and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved from hell? |
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The Heart Of The Gospel
- Thread starter KenH
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Is this what the Philippian jailor was asking?:
Acts Chapter 16
or
Acts Chapter 16
Tell me something you haven’t said before and sober up enough to read what I actually said.
I’ll say it again, I didn’t say anything about heaven or hell, you did. I was not talking about heaven or hell. You are. It’s no wonder you disagree with me, you put words in my mouth and insist that I said them.
Quote me in this thread. I’ll wait.
Read it yourself. I didn’t say it. You did.
I don’t ask people about their eternal hotel reservations. Since you don’t know me, you show how foolish you are by answering me this way multiple times for something that I don’t do and also find distracting from the sin problem that separated man from God in the first place. Get off your hobby horse and read.
Was he told to believe without thinking?
I don't drink or do drugs. Who do you think you are?
Here:
What is that to you? The 'formula' for immortality? What does 'saved' mean to you? Saved from hell?
Silverhair
Well-Known Member
What does the bible say KY?
Act 16:30 and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
In other words KY if you believe you will be saved if you do not then you will not be saved.
Not hard to figure out if you can get past your errant C/R view.
David Lamb
Well-Known Member
But those of us who believe Calvinist doctrines certainly believe Acts 16:31, so there is no need to "get past our errant (according to you) C?R view."
So "gospel" is used just to draw attention to the teaching?
Glad to hear it. Sobriety is not only a measure of blood alcohol content or drug use. It is also a measure of seriousness. You haven’t seriously answered what I said. You keep trying to say that I am saying something that I am not.
I want you to seriously consider what I said and stop rabbit trailing down your favorite hobby horse trails.
I’ll answer your question after you answer mine.
The original post said that salvation has nothing to do with what we think do or say.
Belief is something that has to be thought.
What do you believe that you have not thought?
Do you believe that unbelievers are going to be saved because they were chosen and thereby their belief is inconsequential on the basis of their being chosen?
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
This sounds like speaking and thinking to me. Salvation is a different subject than what I am addressing. I would be happy to discuss what salvation is when you can clear up this question of personal responsibility in relation to salvation.
Silverhair
Well-Known Member
How can that be true when you deny the ability of man to made real free will choices regarding their salvation.
As Paul clearly points out to the jailer, the condition for his salvation is belief in the the Lord Jesus. But your religion says salvation is unconditional which is clearly an errant view.
The last thing I need is YOU preaching to me, about anything. I'm thinking YOU were the one drinking last night.
Faith is a conviction, not a product of mental exercise or process of thought.