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The Holy Spirit Is Yahweh

Aaron

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No. Yehweh is not (only) the Father, He is the triune God. One 'What;' three 'Whos.' The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahweh, the Holy Spirit is Yahweh.
Three gods or one god?

One God, three Persons.​

Let's look at His Image, marriage.

Two flesh or one flesh?

One flesh, two persons. Their name? Smith. But there is John Smith, and Jane Smith.
It is quite correct to say that Jane is a Smith, or John is a Smith, but it's quite jarring and fundamentally inaccurate to say that Jane is Smith.

And that's what is happening in the OP.
 

Aaron

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this does not mean that there is only One Person Who is Yahweh, as Scriptures says that there are THREE distinct Persons Who are equally Yahweh
Perhaps you should focus on the Name in which we're baptized, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God has given us an elementary primer therein.

One Name, three Persons. Can we say, the Son is wholly and one hundred percent Father, Son and Holy Ghost, without being inaccurate and sounding like a fool?

So it is with the Name, Yahweh. One Name, three Persons. (I should interrupt and say that we only see this when we shine the light of the NT on it.) To say that the Spirit is Yahweh is the same as saying the Spirit is Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
 

SavedByGrace

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Perhaps you should focus on the Name in which we're baptized, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God has given us an elementary primer therein.

One Name, three Persons. Can we say, the Son is wholly and one hundred percent Father, Son and Holy Ghost, without being inaccurate and sounding like a fool?

So it is with the Name, Yahweh. One Name, three Persons. (I should interrupt and say that we only see this when we shine the light of the NT on it.) To say that the Spirit is Yahweh is the same as saying the Spirit is Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

lets put this another way. do you believe in the Holy Trinity, and if so, what does this mean?
 

Aaron

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you are missing what I have said. You do not have to be a Trinitarian to get saved. But, after you are, and are shown by the Holy Spirit, that the God of the Bible is Three in One, and this is rejected, then that person cannot enter heaven, as their view of God is false.
No one who is saved can be lost. I would back up and start there.

Trying to maintain your own salvation by doing the right works and thinking just the right thoughts, is laborious, tedious, exhausting, and quite impossible. Jesus gives us rest.
 

SavedByGrace

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No one who is saved can be lost. I would back up and start there.

Trying to maintain your own salvation by doing the right works and thinking just the right thoughts, is laborious, tedious, exhausting, and quite impossible. Jesus gives us rest.

if a person denies/rejects the Holy Trinity, as in One Godhead in Three distinct, yet equal Persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, as do the JW's, etc, they cannot ever get to heaven. Period!

Otherwise the JW's are Orthodox and going to heaven!
 

Aaron

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lets put this another way. do you believe in the Holy Trinity, and if so, what does this mean?
LOL. Let's just stick to the topic.

Our understandings of God are revealed in the manners by which we speak of Him, and we can adopt the manners of the Biblical authors, and understand how God is revealed thereby, or we can force our notions into it with jarring and unnatural usage. The Bible reveals a dynamic, living and loving relationship between the Persons of the godhead. There is submission, and giving. And there is the elevation of the will of One over the independent and separate, yet holy and righteous will of the other. And that submission is rewarded with the yielding of the power and authority of one to the other, and the giving of a Name which is above all names.

The language you employ robs God of all those qualities revealed by the manner in which He is described by the Biblical authors, and reveal a notion of God that is static, cold and dry. And you threaten dissent with eternal damnation.

One wonders if you're sure of your own salvation.
 

Aaron

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if a person denies/rejects the Holy Trinity, as in One Godhead in Three distinct, yet equal Persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, as do the JW's, etc, they cannot ever get to heaven. Period!

Otherwise the JW's are Orthodox and going to heaven!
No one who is saved can be lost. You need to back up, and try to learn what salvation is.
 

SavedByGrace

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LOL. Let's just stick to the topic.

Our understandings of God are revealed in the manners by which we speak of Him, and we can adopt the manners of the Biblical authors, and understand how God is revealed thereby, or we can force our notions into it with jarring and unnatural usage. The Bible reveals a dynamic, living and loving relationship between the Persons of the godhead. There is submission, and giving. And there is the elevation of the will of One over the independent and separate, yet holy and righteous will of the other. And that submission is rewarded with the yielding of the power and authority of one to the other, and the giving of a Name which is above all names.

The language you employ robs God of all those qualities revealed by the manner in which He is described by the Biblical authors, and reveal a notion of God that is static, cold and dry. And you threaten dissent with eternal damnation.

One wonders if you're sure of your own salvation.

Why can't you just answer the very simple question
 

SavedByGrace

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You're simply asking if I share your own notions of the Trinity. I am answering. You're just not accepting the answers.

I am not asking you to accept what I believe to be what the Bible teaches, but to say what you actually believe about the Holy Trinity? It is not a trick question
 

Aaron

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So a person can be saved even though they may believe that both Jesus Christ are the Holy Spirit are created beings?
You're errors are separate, but equal. I'm taking issue with yours. Stop trying to change the subject.
 

Yeshua1

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Perhaps you should focus on the Name in which we're baptized, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God has given us an elementary primer therein.

One Name, three Persons. Can we say, the Son is wholly and one hundred percent Father, Son and Holy Ghost, without being inaccurate and sounding like a fool?

So it is with the Name, Yahweh. One Name, three Persons. (I should interrupt and say that we only see this when we shine the light of the NT on it.) To say that the Spirit is Yahweh is the same as saying the Spirit is Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Are you here promoting Oneness?
 
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