The Huns on the March Again

[poncho]

Your own words (in this thread) betray you CMG.

You made some allegations you can't support with evidence. You got called out for it. Then rather than acting like a man and admitting it you've chosen instead to use the old "guilt by association" fallacy in a myriad of ways to try to paint me as a traitor.

I saw right through your little ploy from the start. Trust me CMG you aren't as slick as you think you are and people aren't as stupid as you think they are. Just because you are gullible enough to keep falling for the same old neo-cons doesn't mean everyone else is.

You've been neo-conned again. Washington lied, the MSM repeated those lies, you accepted their lies as truth without fact checking because they fit your false paradigm. Then as if that wasn't bad enough you started repeating their lies and tried to make me look like the "bad guy" to deflect people's attention away from the fact that . . . you've been neo-conned again. And all because I asked you to provide evidence to support your allegations. Which you still have not done.

Game over CMG.

The evidence is coming out and it is not in your favor.

Be a man. Admit you were neo-conned again and learn from it.

US Aggression Drags World into Age of Global Anarchy

Unlike other campaigns of naked military conquest, the US appears to have foregone the facade of UN approval, moral or legal justification, and has instead applied a scatter-shot strategy of proposing multiple pretexts for its aggression - all equally implausible, many contradictory - hoping at least one will stick.

After much hand-wringing and complaining about Russia's actions in Ukraine - citing the violation of "international norms" and international law, the US itself has clearly violated all the rules it has hypocritically held the rest of the world to under threat of sanctions, subversion, and outright military force. Without so much as a fig leaf of legality or legitimacy, and with criminal regimes as its partners, the US has committed the ultimate act of undermining the so-called "international order" it itself poses as creator of and arbiter over.

Such reckless abandonment and unprecedented illegitimacy signifies that this "international order" may have already collapsed. Just as Adolf Hitler abandoned the facade of "national defense" in his conquest of Europe, the United States has now dispensed with international consensus and international "rule of law" in its pursuit of global hegemony.

Read More At: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/us-aggression-drags-world-into-age-of.html

 

[church mouse guy]

Your false charges are baseless. Putin won in the Ukraine and you denied that he was even on the march. You could care less that people have to live under the gestapo/KGB and you do not deny that Nazis and Communists had a non-aggression pact and divided Poland between themselves in September 1939.

You will have to tell us with whom you are associated, Poncho, because I myself have no idea who your associations are.

 

[poncho]

You will have to tell us with whom you are associated, Poncho, because I myself have no idea who your associations are.

Of course you don't.

You think in terms of belonging to one side or the other. The old left vs right paradigm. You have chosen a side, therefore you have to defend that side no matter how transparent and ridiculously unfounded the defense might be.

I'm all about defending the constitution and the principles this country was founded on. Democrats vs republicans means nothing to me. They're just two sides of the same coin.

Corrupt to the core and greedy as the Grinch. Their isn't a teaspoon of integrity or honor amongst them. There are a couple exceptions who still believe in upholding the constitution and rule of law and those are the ones you consistently rail against.

You let the fear and hate mongers control your thoughts and keep you locked into a grand illusion based on propaganda and lies.

I do not. No, I don't expect you to understand this. How can you? You are still lost in the false left vs right paradigm. I no longer am.

I can say wrong is wrong without betraying "my team". You can't do that. You have to make excuses and try to deflect attention away from the wrongs your side commits no matter how egregious they are, even if you have to try to paint the guy asking you to prove your unfounded allegations as the "bad guy" then deny doing so as you have done through out these pages.

I actually feel sorry for you CMG.

You have chosen to side with those who have betrayed you and your's over and over.

Do yourself and your country a favor, get out of the false left vs right paradigm while you still can and defend your country and it's people instead of the criminals that have taken control of both parties.

 

[poncho]

Ukraine government officially introduces slavery, with vague terms

Unemployed, students, farmers and individual entrepreneurs forced to work under martial law


On 23 September 2014, the Ukrainian Ministry of Social Policy announced official civilian slavery, via an obscure press release, headlined “The Government has extended the list of community service under martial law”; and they announced it there, in bureaucratic phrases that seemed crafted so as to be ignored:

In connection with the situation in the east of the country, the Cabinet meeting today amended the procedures for the involvement of able-bodied people in community service under martial law. This was disclosed by Minister for Social Policy Lyudmila Denisova.

The Minister said that the existing arrangement was approved in 2011. However, today the document needs to be improved, to meet the current socio-political challenges and necessity of liquidating consequences of possible military aggression.

Lyudmila Denisova said that, in particular, the Procedure now defines the term “labor service” to mean that the people [will be] involved without mandatory consent, subject to enforcement operations, [in work that is of a] defensive nature, as well as man-made [i.e., war-related] disaster management, natural and military nature, during mobilization and wartime. [The tortured phrasing here might be due to these drafters' desire to avoid amplifying upon that phrase 'without mandatory consent,' which refers to the key new legal feature, the legal application of slavery to regular Ukrainian civilians, to be selected according to vague criteria, which might apply to most of the civilian population.]

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Stalin might get a belly-laugh. Today’s Russia, however, has improved considerably since Stalin, and even more after it ended communism and became just Russia without the Soviet Union and their economically crippling Marxist ideology. By contrast, the U.S. has recently been heading into fascism, and outdid itself by having installed in Ukraine a regime that’s outright nazi. The U.S. now calls that ’democratic’, as it spreads ‘democracy’ elsewhere too, such as in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, and Syria.

Then, on September 25th, the world’s great newspaper, the German Economic News, (or Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachtrichten) headlined “On the way into the authoritarian State: Ukraine introduces forced labor,” and reported:

Read More At: http://www.infowars.com/ukraine-government-officially-introduces-slavery-with-vague-terms/

 

[poncho]

Hilarious German Satire of Anti-Russian Propaganda

While the German media has been at least as propagandistic as the US/UK media in its resurrection of wild, Cold War-style rhetoric over the Ukraine situation, cracks are beginning to appear. Satire, humor, and ridicule have always been among the best forms of social critique, and the below clip lampooning the information war over Ukraine is among the very best. When people laugh at government propaganda, truth begins to break through. It was true with the Soviet Union and it is true today in the west. Watch and enjoy — turn subtitles on at the “cc” button on bottom frame:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/hilarious-german-satire-of-anti-russian-propaganda/

 

[poncho]

Results of Obama’s Ukraine Policy

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/results-obamas-policy-ukraine.html

Still no evidence of any "Russian invasion" CMG?

Guess ya got neo conned again after all, eh?

 

[poncho]

Ukraine: Nazis in Plain Sight

The Western press recently reported the destruction of a Soviet-era statue of Vladimir Lenin in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv. The Washington Post would claim in its report, “Ukrainians just pulled down a massive Lenin statue. What does that signal for Russia?,” that:

Anti-Russian protesters in Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city, pulled down a massive statue of Vladimir Lenin late Sunday, a sign of hardening anger toward the Kremlin in an eastern Ukrainian area where sympathies are split between Kiev and Moscow.

The pro-European protests that swept Ukraine in the winter were accompanied by a wave of Lenin statues being pulled down, eliminating symbolic vestiges of the Soviet Union that had endured after its 1991 breakup. But few such statues were toppled in eastern Ukraine, which has long been a bastion of pro-Russian sentiment and where separatists have embarked on an insurgency that has cost thousands of lives.

As usual with reports from the Western press, the deception can manifest itself just as much from what is omitted as from what is actually said. The Washington Post maintains that those who destroyed the statue were merely “anti-Russian protesters.” In reality, it was a mob led by literal Neo-Nazis of the notorious Azov Battalion – fielded and directed by Kiev’s Interior Ministry itself.

While the Washington Post attempts to claim the statue’s destruction was a manifestation of the people’s will in eastern Ukraine, it was in reality a stunt pulled by some of Kiev’s most vicious, ultra-right, and illegitimate supporters – supporters the West works continuously to obfuscate from public view.

Azov’s role in the Kharkiv incident was revealed not by the Russian media, but instead by the European Union and NATO’s own Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) monitors on the ground in Ukraine. Submitting daily reports often ignored by the Western press, the OSCE stated in its September 29, 2014 briefing that (emphasis added):

On 28 September, at 14:30hrs, the SMM observed in Kharkiv a large demonstration of some 2,000 pro-Ukraine supporters gathering in front of the Opera house. The crowd, composed of men and women of different ages and including children, was led by members of the “Azov” volunteer battalion, as well as young men and women with masks. Some of the demonstrators marched towards Liberty Square, where Lenin’s monument was located. There, the SMM observed a group of young men with masks trying to climb on top of Lenin’s statue, while the crowd present on the square had increased to approximately 5,000 people. The demonstrators who had climbed up to the statue began using an electric cutting instrument to dismantle the base of the statue. Whilst not visible on the square, the SMM observed the police deploy and set up an outer perimeter cordon around the square and three buses of police behind the regional administration building.

At 22:40hrs Lenin’s Statue was pulled down by the demonstrators. As the SMM left the scene, it did not observe any further incident.

Read More At: http://journal-neo.org/2014/10/07/ukraine-nazis-in-plain-sight/

 

[poncho]

Biden speech loaded with lies about ukraine

[INTRODUCTORY NOTE: Almost everything that our Vice President said about Ukraine and Russia, in this speech he delivered at Harvard on October 3rd, is a lie or else out-of-context misrepresentation, as the links here-provided are intended to make clear. Each linked-to source will document the reality that contradicts V.P. Joe Biden’s assertion that’s being linked there. To see so many lies strung together in just this part of his speech, stuns. My added comments, providing key context that Biden’s speech avoided mentioning, are placed into brackets below, as is this Introduction. Altogether, what you will see here is a U.S. Vice President who is willing to string lie upon lie, while bragging (elsewhere in this speech) about American “democracy,” though democracy becomes impossible when such high public officials as he is, so routinely lie, and are not being held to account for their lying (as you will see that Biden was not). Thus, aptly, the Obama Administration has argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that there must be no legal restraints limiting political lying. This is supposed to be ‘democracy’? It actually mocks the very term. Without truth being absolutely required of politicians, the only determinants of whom our rulers will be, will be how much money is backing each contender, and how skillful each one is at deceiving voters via those contending political war-chests. This makes authentic democracy impossible, and oligarchy (rule by the richest) inevitable – it produces rule by deceit. Biden here exemplifies that, as you will now see documented, if you will click on the links here.]

Read More At: http://www.infowars.com/biden-speech-loaded-with-lies-about-ukraine/