The sure sign of someone who is totally offbase in their eschaology is any claims to knowing when Jesus will return!
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The Identity of the Two Witnesses of Revelation
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'For you do not know when the time is.' 'Hour' and 'day' are just synonyms for 'time.' Compare John 7:6, 8 with 7:30. That is why we are bidden several times to watch and be alert. If no one needed to worry for 2,000 years or so, then watching would not be necessary.
teknonoftheos
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No, for we know that Yeshuah will return to fulfill the final thousand years of this heaven and earth, which are a millennial Sabbath that the weekly Sabbath foreshadowed. And in calculating the current year since the beginning correctly, then we know how close we are to the year 6000 YB. There is a reason why the 1,290 + 1335 years of Daniel converge in that very same year of 2026 AD, because that is the fullness of the times when the Messiah would indeed appear. How much longer will you reject knowledge and remain willfully ignorant of the current times?
I believe in the seven churches as ages...
Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Beginning with DL Moody, the first to make money off of ministry
If I had to pick an end time date I would go with the scientist, Isaac Newton...
And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half. Daniel 12:7
From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:
"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton
As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christs coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However Isaac Newton notes
It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
Before Christ comes the Anti-Christ must be revealed...
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
Who....
16 causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. - Revelation 13:16-18
I traveled to Tahiti and couldn't help but notice all the electronic devices hooked to databases. All you have to do is swipe your passports and all your information comes up. You can even have your iPhone display your ticket information. We are not far away from having everything stored on a universal database in which we will all be required to be tied to! And for most folk this will be just another tattoo! 2060AD is a very close, scientific, and accurate prediction!
Between the Laodicean church age and 2060AD we will experience what Paul calls, "The fulness of the Gentiles..."
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. - Romans 11:25
When the fulness of the Gentiles has arrived look for the fulfilling of the Ezekiel prophecies in which the Lord will defend Israel in Ezekiel 38-39 and the temple will be rebuild in the aftermath.
After the temple is rebuilt the Anti-Christ will set up his kingdom using Jerusalem as his chair.
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. - 2 Thessalonians 2
I believe that once the temple is rebuilt that the Anti-Christ will reign and have seat in that temple. Setting Jerusalem as capital of Israel is a move toward this direction. After these days, and in tribulation, we can expect the two witnesses.
Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Beginning with DL Moody, the first to make money off of ministry
If I had to pick an end time date I would go with the scientist, Isaac Newton...
And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half. Daniel 12:7
From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:
"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton
As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christs coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However Isaac Newton notes
It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
Before Christ comes the Anti-Christ must be revealed...
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
Who....
16 causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. - Revelation 13:16-18
I traveled to Tahiti and couldn't help but notice all the electronic devices hooked to databases. All you have to do is swipe your passports and all your information comes up. You can even have your iPhone display your ticket information. We are not far away from having everything stored on a universal database in which we will all be required to be tied to! And for most folk this will be just another tattoo! 2060AD is a very close, scientific, and accurate prediction!
Between the Laodicean church age and 2060AD we will experience what Paul calls, "The fulness of the Gentiles..."
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. - Romans 11:25
When the fulness of the Gentiles has arrived look for the fulfilling of the Ezekiel prophecies in which the Lord will defend Israel in Ezekiel 38-39 and the temple will be rebuild in the aftermath.
After the temple is rebuilt the Anti-Christ will set up his kingdom using Jerusalem as his chair.
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. - 2 Thessalonians 2
I believe that once the temple is rebuilt that the Anti-Christ will reign and have seat in that temple. Setting Jerusalem as capital of Israel is a move toward this direction. After these days, and in tribulation, we can expect the two witnesses.
And to requote Isaac Newton....
"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
These are generalities and not specifics. I am not date picking, but trying to build a scenario. Christ could come back today.
"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
These are generalities and not specifics. I am not date picking, but trying to build a scenario. Christ could come back today.
teknonoftheos
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The Antichrist already came, and few noticed. He is the pope, which comes through the fourth beast of Daniel, which is Rome. And if you are using banks to buy and sell, you're already wearing his mark, because the mark is based on an abomination, which is interest and usury, which is forbidden by Torah.
I would put the Pope and all the Catholic church within the Thyatirean church age. Thankfully only a part of the Christian church and not representing the whole.
The antichrist is still yet to come, for if any Pope was the antichrist, Jesus would have returned by now!
teknonoftheos
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Are you so dumb not to realize that the rule of the Roman popes came through the rule of the Roman emperors, through which his lies have deceived the entire world because of his false teachings, through which massacres and inquisitions happened in fulfillment of the times the fourth kingdom of Daniel, which were the Romans, would persecute the people of God, through which now the entire world is subjected to its evil financial system, since all central banks of the world trace back to the Vatican? You are blinded in ignorance, not realizing that the line of popes are indeed the seat of the Antichrist.
Thumbs up... No antichrist as of yet.
teknonoftheos
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The Antichrist is a line of popes, each pope was the Antichrist, which is why the "little horn" exists for such a long period of time up until the second coming of the Messiah. You err and lack understanding.
I would put the Pope and all the Catholic church within the Thyatirean church age. Her geography and time period is agreeably in Rome. Thankfully only a part of the Christian church and not representing the whole. There are also Messianic, Orthodox, Protestant, and Charismatic to name a few.
This is basically a Protestant forum and you will find little love for the Popes and the Catholic church here.
The Bible plainly teaches thta NONE of us here willknow the exact timing for the Second Coming, but will see signs to it coming, but that would be to not set any dates, but to get ready! Your date 2026 is to be rejected by the scriptures themselves!
Are you disagreeing with Isaac Newton?
"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton
And to finish the Isaac Newton quote and put Christ's coming back as something as imminent....
"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
These are generalities and not specifics. I am not date picking, but trying to build a scenario. Christ could come back today.
Yes, but this just standard regurgitated ‘reformationese.’ To say this, one must completely takes sides and disregard what the scripture itself says:
1 John 4:1-4 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits[a] to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are of God, and have overcome them; for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
Which Pope has denied that Christ has some in the flesh?
Epic fail.
Youalso have to add in Galatians 1:8, as when has Rome ever preached the real Gospel since the Council of Trent?
teknonoftheos
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Is Isaac Newton a prophet? He is not correct, for the temple sacrifices were abolished around 600 BC, which is when King Jehoiakim was taken captive by the Babylonians, and the temple articles were taken,
Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. He did evil in the eyes of Yehovah his God. 6 Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon attacked him and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar also took to Babylon articles from the temple of Yehovah and put them in his temple there. (2 Chronicles 36:5-7 [NIV])
And then 1,290 years are added after that date,
“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. (Daniel 12:11 [NIV])
Which comes to around 691 AD, which is around the time the Dome of the Rock was built over Mount Moriah, which is where the temple of God stood,
Then Solomon began to build the temple of Yehovah in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where Yehovah had appeared to his father David. It was on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite, the place provided by David. (2 Chronicles 3:1 [MODIFIED-NIV)
and he told him, ‘Take these articles and go and deposit them in the temple in Jerusalem. And rebuild the house of God on its site.‘ “So this Sheshbazzar came and laid the foundations of the house of God in Jerusalem. From that day to the present it has been under construction but is not yet finished.” (Ezra 5:15-16 [NIV])
And thus the Dome of the Rock fulfilled the "abomination" that would be setup after the 1,290 years after the first instance sacrifices stopped in the temple. And then 1,335 years are added after that time, and you reach around 2026 AD,
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. (Daniel 12:12 [NIV])
Which converges with the year 6000 YB if you do a calculation of years since the beginning.
Jesus stated that we will not know the time...
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