The Invitation To Heaven

[AustinC]

are you saying that ALL the "non elect" are haters of God? Really? ask you neighbour who does not believe. I know a few people who are not born again, yet are NOT opposed to God or the Gospel.

They are opposed to God. If they were not, they would already believe.

Matthew 12:30
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No, more that he can answer it as should be, but not as you want it to be!

it is very simple, that I need not check the Greek or Latin, as the English is very clear. Yet, because what Peter says here, is against reformed theology, ways are sought to ignore these words. This is the typical reformed way of doing things, like with John 3:16!

 

[Yeshua1]

so the preaching of the Gospel is ONLY for the "redeemed"?

Only done by the redeemed!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Again, all of us before saved by God are in that state against God!

speak for yourself! before I was saved on the 25th Feb 1982, I was NOT against God in any way. I was brought up in a Christian home, and went to a CoE Church! I did NOT hate or rebell, or dislike or do or think anything against God. There you have it.

 

[Yeshua1]

it is very simple, that I need not check the Greek or Latin, as the English is very clear. Yet, because what Peter says here, is against reformed theology, ways are sought to ignore these words. This is the typical reformed way of doing things, like with John 3:16!

Does John 3:16 teach Universalism?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Only done by the redeemed!

More reformed nonsense!

 

[Yeshua1]

speak for yourself! before I was saved on the 25th Feb 1982, I was NOT against God in any way. I was brought up in a Christian home, and went to a CoE Church! I did NOT hate or rebell, or dislike or do or think anything against God. There you have it.

Until the Lord saved you and me, were denying that Jesus was lord, and in rebellion!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Does John 3:16 teach Universalism?

Universal Death of Jesus Christ, but not Universal salvation, as the sinner must "repent and believe" first, as you know I believe.

 

[Yeshua1]

More reformed nonsense!

The lost are to preach the good news?

 

[Yeshua1]

Universal Death of Jesus Christ, but not Universal salvation, as the sinner must "repent and believe" first, as you know I believe.

So Jesus died in the place of all lost sinners in hell then>

 

[SavedByGrace]

Until the Lord saved you and me, were denying that Jesus was lord, and in rebellion!

again, speak for yourself. I did NOT deny that Jesus was God, even before I was saved! many Roman Catholics fully believe in the Holy Trinity, to the shame of many so called born again!

 

[SavedByGrace]

The lost are to preach the good news?

The Good News is to be preached to every single human being, without exception!

 

[Yeshua1]

again, speak for yourself. I did NOT deny that Jesus was God, even before I was saved! many Roman Catholics fully believe in the Holy Trinity, to the shame of many so called born again!

Not in a saving sense though, not in a relationship with God state!

 

[Yeshua1]

The Good News is to be preached to every single human being, without exception!

Agreed, i was just stating that we as the saved are the ones sent to do that!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Not in a saving sense though

and what is that? I believed that Jesus Christ IS Almighty God, and the Holy Spirit IS Almighty God, before I was born again. But I had not "repented and believed". The devil also believes in the Holy Trinity, but cannot ever be saved!

 

[Van]

I'm serious. Do you know what peril you are in if Calvin was right about sin and grace?

One trick ponies only know their one trick and so they repeat it.

 

[Van]

“Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Hebrews 12:2 (KJV 1900)

What a joke. This poster said he would present his interpretation of the listed verse (James 2:5) and then makes a bogus claim about a different verse. Trying to discuss biblical doctrine with Calvinists is a waste of time. See post 89.

 

[Van]

God has us give forth the good news, and then the Holy Spirit does His work to save out all those whom God intended to get saved!

Yet another bogus claim, devoid of references, and certainly aimed at changing the subject from the verses cited.

 

[Van]

"Listen, my fellow siblings in Christ, has not God chosen the poor to this world, yet rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which He has promised to those that love Him." Interpretation of James 2:5

Key points:
1) beloved brethren refers to James' fellow Christians, rather than Jews or just men.

2) The idea is God has chosen individuals who were poor in the eyes of the world, or poor according to the world's value system.

3) The verb "chosen" has three objects or receptors of its action: (a) those poor to this world, (b) those rich in faith, and (c) those who love God and therefore heirs to the kingdom promised.

4) In order to be poor to this world those chosen were existing in the world when chosen, not foreseen individuals before creation.

5) In order to be rich in faith, those chosen were existing in the world and had their faith credited as righteousness by God.

6) In order to be heirs to the promised kingdom, those chosen were existing in the world and loved God, rather than foreseen individuals who would love God

 

[Yeshua1]

and what is that? I believed that Jesus Christ IS Almighty God, and the Holy Spirit IS Almighty God, before I was born again. But I had not "repented and believed". The devil also believes in the Holy Trinity, but cannot ever be saved!

You did not believe in a saving sense!