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The KJV... As original as my Ford Mustang!

rockytopva

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I am KJV only! If I had any other version in my house i would get rid of it And! And that version is as genuine as my Ford Mustang!
 

Salty

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I am KJV only! If I had any other version in my house i would get rid of it And! And that version is as genuine as my Ford Mustang!

WHY???
the KJV was approved by the English Church authorities
as was the Great Bible (1535) as well as the Bishops Bible 1568
Would you have used those Bibles before 1600?

And which KJV??
the one with or without the 14 books of the Apocrypha,

Why do most KJO say they only use the 1611 when
they actually use the 1769?
 
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rockytopva

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I realize that the KJV is not perfect... However it is the best English translation. Classes in Greek or Hebrew would help perfect a biblical understanding, the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance is the next best thing.
 

Rob_BW

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I realize that the KJV is not perfect... However it is the best English translation. Classes in Greek or Hebrew would help perfect a biblical understanding, the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance is the next best thing.
Though I'm glad you have a translation that you love, but we shouldn't conflate opinion with fact.
 

Yeshua1

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I realize that the KJV is not perfect... However it is the best English translation. Classes in Greek or Hebrew would help perfect a biblical understanding, the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance is the next best thing.
Not the best English translation, but if you are able to get what God intended for you to receive from it!
 

Salty

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Not the best English translation, but if you are able to get what God intended for you to receive from it!

and if another translation can do that?

and just maybe - another translation
could help you as well
 

rockytopva

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and if another translation can do that?

and just maybe - another translation
could help you as well
Someone once said, "Honestly I just like to confuse KJVO folks by asking which KJV."

In which.... He was correct! Which is why I cannot get overly fanatical over the KJV. I would, though, watch the other translations as well. In Acts 1:8 the TLB (Living Bible) restricts the power only to testify....

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. - Acts 1:8 KJV

But when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, you will receive power to testify about me with great effect, to the people in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth, about my death and resurrection.” - Acts 1:8 (TLB)

Power in the Greek is dynamis, in which the Strongs Concordance does not restrict only to testify....

δύναμις dýnamis, doo'-nam-is; from G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specially, miraculous power (usually by implication, a miracle itself):—ability, abundance, meaning, might(-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle(-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work

So... The Living Bible effectively watered that passage down greatly.
 

rockytopva

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Someone once said, "Honestly I just like to confuse KJVO folks by asking which KJV."

In which.... He was correct! Which is why I cannot get overly fanatical over the KJV. I would, though, watch the other translations as well. In Acts 1:8 the TLB (Living Bible) restricts the power only to testify....

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. - Acts 1:8 KJV

But when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, you will receive power to testify about me with great effect, to the people in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth, about my death and resurrection.” - Acts 1:8 (TLB)

Power in the Greek is dynamis, in which the Strongs Concordance does not restrict only to testify....

δύναμις dýnamis, doo'-nam-is; from G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specially, miraculous power (usually by implication, a miracle itself):—ability, abundance, meaning, might(-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle(-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work

So... The Living Bible effectively watered that passage down greatly.
The G1410 is dynamai, which could be taken as power to preach.... And an example of the G1410 word below....

And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able G1410 to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season. - Luke 1:20


But the translation is dynamis, which is a more powerful word....

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, G1411 and the glory, for ever. Amen. - Matthew 6:13
 
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Yeshua1

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Someone once said, "Honestly I just like to confuse KJVO folks by asking which KJV."

In which.... He was correct! Which is why I cannot get overly fanatical over the KJV. I would, though, watch the other translations as well. In Acts 1:8 the TLB (Living Bible) restricts the power only to testify....

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. - Acts 1:8 KJV

But when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, you will receive power to testify about me with great effect, to the people in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth, about my death and resurrection.” - Acts 1:8 (TLB)

Power in the Greek is dynamis, in which the Strongs Concordance does not restrict only to testify....

δύναμις dýnamis, doo'-nam-is; from G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specially, miraculous power (usually by implication, a miracle itself):—ability, abundance, meaning, might(-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle(-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work

So... The Living Bible effectively watered that passage down greatly.
ALL christians have that same power, as all of us have the Holy Spirit of promise!
 

rockytopva

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ALL christians have that same power, as all of us have the Holy Spirit of promise!
I would reword that....

ALL christians have access to that same power, as all of us have the Holy Spirit of promise

There are seasons when we do not have access to that power and can get little done because of it.
 

Yeshua1

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I would reword that....

ALL christians have access to that same power, as all of us have the Holy Spirit of promise

There are seasons when we do not have access to that power and can get little done because of it.
That would be due to us at those times trying to live by our own efforts and in our "flesh"
 

rockytopva

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That would be due to us at those times trying to live by our own efforts and in our "flesh"
Hey.... I agree!
Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. - Isaiah 59:1-2
 

Adonia

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The KJV... As original as my Ford Mustang!

I agree. The Ford Mustang was originally developed from the platform of the Ford Falcon. Also, the original Mustang was not the best performer.

That's telling him!
 
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