The Last Days of the American Empire?

[Magnetic Poles]

Spanish for French? NO DEAL

Ontario speaks English. It is Quebec that is francophonic.

 

[NiteShift]

I know Britain (not just England, by the way) once had an Empire, but does the U.S. have one? I had not heard of it. Perhaps you use the word "empire" with a different shade of meaning, possibly referring to the international influence of the U.S., not to mean that certain other nations have the American President as their head of state.

Rhetorically-speaking, an empire I guess. Or maybe a theoretical one.

Anyway, R-D is playing devil's advocate with this post.

 

[betterthanideserve]

Bingo. I'm not sure what Mexico would do, but I'm 100% positive that there's not a snowman's chance in hell of Canada agreeing to any such thing. Particularly when it's phrased so delicately as an "annexation".

Please check out www.spp.gov then come back to the board and say that they are not geting ready to bring canada,mexico and america into a north american union . CANAMEXAMERICA.

www.keeptexasmoving.com Please don't beleive me do your own homework....

 

[Magnetic Poles]

The US, Canada, & Mexico will merge and Elvis will fly his UFO back to Graceland to become President.

 

[Alcott]

Do it. It would solve illegal immigration without our lawns and hedges getting shaggy.

 

[righteousdude2]

It's OKAY Magnetic Poles, It's Really OKAY

The US, Canada, & Mexico will merge and Elvis will fly his UFO back to Graceland to become President.

It does not matter if you believe or not, it is going to happen, the plan is already being implemented, and Bush may be the first elected leader of this new Union of nations. Obama or Hillary will be merely the President of this nation, while they serve under the leadership of Bush.

I have no doubt that there will be many who will resist this change, but to borrow a phrase from Star Trex and the Borg: "Resistance is FUTILE!"

Keep safe...and in your spare time read this article: http://www.ssp.gov and tell me how you don't think it will happen.

 

[poncho]

Resistance is FUTILE!

You're begining to sound as though you're here to talk us all into surrendering. Don't know about the rest of these folks here but you aren't going to make me feel all depressed or alone and helpless. That's how the globalists want us to think.

George Washington might well have looked at the situation in his day and said "resistance is FUTILE!" but he didn't, Did he?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

It does not matter if you believe or not, it is going to happen, the plan is already being implemented, and Bush may be the first elected leader of this new Union of nations. Obama or Hillary will be merely the President of this nation, while they serve under the leadership of Bush.

I have no doubt that there will be many who will resist this change, but to borrow a phrase from Star Trex and the Borg: "Resistance is FUTILE!"

Keep safe...and in your spare time read this article: http://www.ssp.gov and tell me how you don't think it will happen.

If you believe that, you are truly living in delusion. Seriously dude, you need help.

 

[poncho]

I don't think Bush leads anything personally. He leads by telling Americans what his "advisers" think up and speech choreographer teach him to enunciate that's all.

He's "made for television".

I dunno though anyone today that doesn't believe the USA, Cananda and Mexico are being merged for the purpose of a supranational central planning authority must be living in a closet a dreamworld or a closet in a dreamworld. It's so in your face. That's all I can say.

 

[righteousdude2]

Free trade to loss of freedom

You're begining to sound as though you're here to talk us all into surrendering. Don't know about the rest of these folks here but you aren't going to make me feel all depressed or alone and helpless. That's how the globalists want us to think.

George Washington might well have looked at the situation in his day and said "resistance is FUTILE!" but he didn't, Did he?

When I said resistance is futile, I simply meant that the majority of the peple in these three nations will be so frustrated with the current problems that this merger will be like fresh air to a society choking on the political corruption of this day.

It will fast, and almost painless. As a friend said a few years ago, his bank [a major player in today's economy] is ready to close on Saturday afternoon, and open on Monday morning with a completely new currency system. He told me that the new Americas currency is ready to be printed and distributed. If this happens, it will be a revolution without shooting.

 

[betterthanideserve]

When I said resistance is futile, I simply meant that the majority of the peple in these three nations will be so frustrated with the current problems that this merger will be like fresh air to a society choking on the political corruption of this day.

Many on this board have yet to beleive that it is even in the works!
It will fast, and almost painless. As a friend said a few years ago, his bank [a major player in today's economy] is ready to close on Saturday afternoon, and open on Monday morning with a completely new currency system.

He told me that the new Americas currency is ready to be printed and distributed. If this happens, it will be a revolution without shooting.

I have heard that it is already printed and in certain banks,just waiting to be told to put it into circulation.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I have heard that it is already printed and in certain banks,just waiting to be told to put it into circulation.

You've been told wrong by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Ed Edwards]

You've been told wrong by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

Again, my generic conspiracy defuser:

Those who know something do NOT talk;
those who do NOT know something talk.

 

[EdSutton]

Uh- since it hasn't gotten through on three other threads, does anyone think it matters, even just a little bit, that the United States is not, was not, and has not ever been an Empire?

Does anyone think I might get through on try #4?

Let's see.

The next day that the United States (and Canada, for that matter) is an "Empire" wil be the first day that either of them is or was an "Empire". (Mexico was an empire, two different times, for a while.)

Are the words "Constitutional Republic" really too difficult to comprehend, as to their meaning, here?

Ed

 

[Alcott]

Uh- since it hasn't gotten through on three other threads, does anyone think it matters, even just a little bit, that the United States is not, was not, and has not ever been an Empire?

Wha-at?! From the founding of the USA it claimed sovereignty over the lands from the original colonies to the Mississippi River, mostly still lands of natives who did not recognize its authority. Then there was the vast purchase of huge land of more natives who did not recognize its authority; we settled there and put down uprisings among these natives. Then we annexed a contry tentatively independent of Mexico, and went to war to keep it and more vast lands of the western part of the continent, again putting down uprisings among the natives. Then conquering again those lands that claimed independent sovereignty from the centralized government of the US of A; putting down a big revolt from those that had conquered the lands for the cental government. And finally purchasing or conquering more lands, usually with less uprisings, but certainly not with no troubles at all from the more varied natives.

Say that again... the United States was never an empire??? That's lunacy!

 

[The Scribe]

The NAU is a bad idea.

The Dangers of the NAU.

Amero

NAU on FOX

Aaron Russo

Bilderberg exposed - Part 1/6

 

[EdSutton]

Wha-at?! From the founding of the USA it claimed sovereignty over the lands from the original colonies to the Mississippi River, mostly still lands of natives who did not recognize its authority. Then there was the vast purchase of huge land of more natives who did not recognize its authority; we settled there and put down uprisings among these natives. Then we annexed a contry tentatively independent of Mexico, and went to war to keep it and more vast lands of the western part of the continent, again putting down uprisings among the natives. Then conquering again those lands that claimed independent sovereignty from the centralized government of the US of A; putting down a big revolt from those that had conquered the lands for the cental government. And finally purchasing or conquering more lands, usually with less uprisings, but certainly not with no troubles at all from the more varied natives.

Say that again... the United States was never an empire??? That's lunacy!

Whether or not England, France, Holland, Spain, Russia, or Denmark 'acquired' the sovereignty they possessed in a 'legitimate' manner, is one "debatable" question, I guess. And whether or not 'we' treated the native dwellers in an honorable manner, is debatable question #2? However, neither of these changes anything, except your desire to redefine "Empire", to suit your definition.

Fact is, the United States was founded as a result of a revolution of British 'citizens' against England. We fought a war; we won. America now is an independant nation formed from territories that were formerly British, and previously granted to the 13 colonies by that country. (Or in your mind, was the United States only "tentatively independent" in 1781 after Yorktown, and the subsequent Treaty of Paris? England may have wished this, but ...) As an independent nation, her emmisaries purchased, albeit technically illegally, the entire land known as the Louisiana Purchase from France, doubling the size of the nation, with cold hard cash. "Florida" was purchased from Spain. The Republic of Texas proclaimed her independence in 1836, and was effectively a free and independent (Oh, excuse me! Make that "tentatively independent") republic, after San Jancito in 1836. Annexation was initiated on behalf of Texas, and did not occur until almost a decade later in 1845. The Mexican Cession occurred in the aftermath of the Mexican - American War initiated by the ever disingenious Santa Anna, an obviously slow-learner in some ways, but a quick study when it came to pocketing the cash. We paid $18 M in compensation on the Mexican 'Cession'; bought the Gadsen Purchase for another $10M, bought Alaska, ;'bought' Cuba, Phillipines, Puerto Rico, and Guam, in the aftermath of the Spanish-American War, and later gave the first two their independence, of our own free will, bought the Canal Zone, and twice, at that, paid for the Canal, plus paid "big bucks" royalties to Panama for many years, and still gave the CZ back to Panama, as well.

In fact, the only significant amounts of lands the USA ever out and out "occupied", were some smaller portions of American Samoa, and even that had to do with a reaction to some German provocation.

And you are surprised that we went to war (not a single one of which we ever initiated, after the American Revolution) to defend and keep United States Territories, rather than just let anyone have them who happened to want them, a la Kaiser Wilhelm, Hitler, Santa Anna, or Ol' Sad'm?

That, my friend, that seems to be what you are suggesting, is what is lunacy!

Ed

 

[Alcott]

However, neither of these changes anything, except your desire to redefine "Empire", to suit your definition.

My definition is this one:

Main Entry: em·pire Pronunciation: \ˈem-ˌpī(-ə)r\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French empire, empirie, from Latin imperium absolute authority, empire, from imperare to command — more at emperor Date: 14th century 1 a (1): a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority; especially : one having an emperor as chief of state (2): the territory of such a political unit b: something resembling a political empire; especially : an extensive territory or enterprise under single domination or control2: imperial sovereignty, rule, or dominion

 

[poncho]

Uh- since it hasn't gotten through on three other threads, does anyone think it matters, even just a little bit, that the United States is not, was not, and has not ever been an Empire?

Does anyone think I might get through on try #4?

Let's see.

The next day that the United States (and Canada, for that matter) is an "Empire" wil be the first day that either of them is or was an "Empire". (Mexico was an empire, two different times, for a while.)

Are the words "Constitutional Republic" really too difficult to comprehend, as to their meaning, here?

Ed

Semantics. We as a people and nation aren't an empire but those who rule over us the international corporitos have used us and our nation to build a very impressive empire...with our tax dollars since 1898 when our military was used to protect United Fruit's assets from those "evil terrorists/communists" who wanted to nationalize their own resources.

Where do you think the term "banana republic" came from?

 

[betterthanideserve]

You've been told wrong by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

It must be nice to be able to make judgements without knowledge.