We know that the Bible teaches that ALl are spiritual found dead at birth by God, as dead in Adam, and ONLY those whom the death of Christ atoned FOR WILL BE SAVED BY IT, AND THAT SINNERS IN AND BY THEMSELVES UNABLE TO RECEIVE JESUS TO GET SAVED, THAT PART IS TOTALLY DONE BY THE PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!
the faith that a sinner uses to access the Grace that saves them is a gift from God, so there is nothing that we do to get saved by God!
The Bible does not teach that we are born spiritually dead, you cannot show one single verse in scripture to support this. I challenge you here and now to show scripture that says this, you can't do it.
But is there scripture that shows we are not born dead in sin? YES. Quite a few.
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found,
that God hath made man upright; but
they have sought out many inventions.
Scripture says God has made man upright. That means without sin. The word "they" points back to the word "man" showing this verse is speaking of all men, not just Adam.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived,
and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be
unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it
slew me.
In Romans 7, Paul is describing when he came to know the law and understand sin. In verse 7 he says he had not known sin, except by the law, for he would have not known what lust is, except the law had said, "thou shalt not covet".
So it is clear Paul is speaking of that time as a young man when he was taught and came to know the law. And in verse 9 Paul tells us he was "alive once without the law". He was spiritually alive until he learned the law and learned what sin is. When he learned the law he was convicted of his sin and spiritually died. He said the commandment ordained to life he found to be unto death, and that sin taking opportunity or occasion by the law slew him.
You have to be alive to die. A dead person cannot die. If we are born dead in sin, then Paul could never say he was "alive once". But that is exactly what he said.
But there is more, when Jesus described lost persons in Luke 15, none were originally lost. The lost sheep was not lost at first, but became lost until the shepherd recovered it. The woman had 10 pieces of silver at first, none were lost. Then she lost one coin and searched until she recovered it.
The prodigal son was not lost at first, scripture said the father had two sons.
Luk 15:11 And he said,
A certain man had two sons:
The prodigal son was not lost at first, he was at home with his father. He knowingly and willingly went out in sin. He joined himself to a citizen of that country. I believe this is speaking of the devil. This is when the boy became lost, dead in sin, a child of the devil, and a child of wrath.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Fortunately, the boy came to himself. There is not one word that he had to be supernaturally regenerated to come to himself and decide to go back to his father and ask for forgiveness.
Luk 15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father,
and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
Not one word about the necessity to be regenerated to repent here, the boy decided on his own to return to his father and ask for forgiveness.
But we see something very interesting, when he was "a great way off" his father "saw him". This is foreknowledge, this is God seeing those who will come in faith to Jesus before they actually come to him. It is right there, plain as day to those who will receive it.
But back to the issue, is a man born dead? NO. Twice Jesus said the prodigal was alive AGAIN. If we are born dead in sin, then it could never be said we are alive again, but that is exactly what Jesus said TWICE.
Luk 15:24 For this my son
was dead, and is
alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Luk 15:32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this
thy brother was dead, and is
alive again; and
was lost, and is found.
Yes, Jesus said the boy was alive AGAIN, which shows he was originally alive. For those that would argue the prodigal was a believer at first, this parable cannot be speaking of a born again person, because Jesus also said the boy was "dead" and "lost", terms never applied to born-again believers.
No, all three parables in Luke 15 show a man is not born dead in sin, but that a man dies when he willingly and knowingly sins. When a man knows right from wrong he becomes accountable and therefore spiritually dies as Paul said in Romans 7 when he sins.
But when we come to Jesus we are born AGAIN, and made alive AGAIN.
Now there, I have shown you much evidence we are not born dead in sin, now you show me even a single verse that says we are born dead in sin. You can't do it.
