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The LGBTQ want your kids - Wisconsin Current Event

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Benjamin

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I have found his responses mindless and heartless. He actually stated if we don’t catch a deviant “breaking the law” we are fearful and faithless in our efforts to stop the grooming.
Yes, proving his Basic Logic and Critical Thinking Skills are seriously lacking.
That said, and back to the OP, I don’t agree with the OP that all public schools are doing this, that all children must be pulled out of public schools and if you don’t agree, you are supporting the grooming.
I do not agree with fearfully pulling one's children out of school but rather I believe the issue should be met head on and with Christian boldness.
The OP is demonstratably homophobic/transphobic.
Dude (assuming your gender), I'm confident that according to you any objection to the perverted lifestyles that attempt to groom our children would meet the same lying washed up typical lame defense accusation of any opposition to your sick agenda as being homophobic/transphobic monster.
 

AustinC

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Yes, proving his Basic Logic and Critical Thinking Skills are seriously lacking.

I do not agree with fearfully pulling one's children out of school but rather I believe the issue should be met head on and with Christian boldness.

Dude (assuming your gender), I'm confident that according to you any objection to the perverted lifestyles that attempt to groom our children would meet the same lying washed up typical lame defense accusation of any opposition to your sick agenda as being homophobic/transphobic monster.
I have no problem in stating that homosexuality and transgender beliefs are sinful. I also state that TV shows groom your children, as does music and your childrens friends. You and your wife groom your children. Are you not sinners who can display godless behavior and words to your young ones? Are you afraid of your own sinful nature? You should be. What you model to your kids will far more effect them than some kindergarten teacher in Walla Walla or wherever they were.
There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield.
 

canadyjd

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I have no problem in stating that homosexuality and transgender beliefs are sinful. I also state that TV shows groom your children, as does music and your childrens friends. You and your wife groom your children. Are you not sinners who can display godless behavior and words to your young ones? Are you afraid of your own sinful nature? You should be. What you model to your kids will far more effect them than some kindergarten teacher in Walla Walla or wherever they were.
There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield.
It is absolutely outrageous to claim the parents attempting to shield their children from the ongoing “grooming” are a bigger danger to their children than the deviants doing the grooming.

Your is distorted, corrupted, poisoned by liberalism.

peace to you
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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The OP is demonstratably homophobic/transphobic. I have repeatedly asked when the OP has ever had to stop a transgender person or homosexual person from grooming his children. No answer has been given. This would likely be because it has never actually happened.
There is nothing wrong with diligently watching over our children. There is something wrong with living in fear of something that cannot even be identified around you.

What a brilliant thought process.

I raise my kids to not be exposed to grooming, therefore I shouldn't care about other children being groomed such as in that video.

Genius of the year!

And you can repeatedly ask all you want. It's spring, which means it's planting season, chicken raising season, turkey raising season and more. I wake up at 7am and get back into the house at 9pm. Believe it or not it's not a top priority of mine to answer questions from an apologist of the current woke ideology.
 
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Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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I have no problem in stating that homosexuality and transgender beliefs are sinful. I also state that TV shows groom your children, as does music and your childrens friends. You and your wife groom your children. Are you not sinners who can display godless behavior and words to your young ones? Are you afraid of your own sinful nature? You should be. What you model to your kids will far more effect them than some kindergarten teacher in Walla Walla or wherever they were.
There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield.

What's down in the well has finally come up in the bucket. Clearly parenting and grooming are akin.
 

agedman

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Grooming children is part of the education process. It cannot be avoided, and those who think that grooming is only about s_x choices are misguided.

Grooming goes on through teaching history and who are respected and those of ill repute.
Grooming goes on in math as one is encouraged to explore higher skilled courses.
Grooming goes on in the fine arts, literature, foreign language, and all other courses - even phys ed.

The Separatists came as "pilgrims" to America because they were concerned the children were being groomed to become Dutch.

So, grooming is not new.

What every believer must attend is to "train" the child. Not so much in separating, for that isn't an option for some, but to engage the child in how they think about various topics.

My wife and I never refused a book our children wanted to read. However, if they chose to read one that was objectionable to us, we would talk about the book as the child read it. They then could compare and contrast in themself the principles of the Scriptures in comparison to those of the book. They learned discernment and reading with awareness.

In the public school, it is vital that Christian parents be engaged in the children's learning. Friendly discussion at the table without condemnation of the child's opinions, but journeying together in keeping the Scriptures and the principles of the Scriptures as the final authority. The child must learn early that the Scriptures are the go to advice place, and not peers, and not parents, for when it comes to puberty, parents will loose, and peers take prominence.

There will be a time when believers will again have to leave this land of Sodom, and not look back or long for what they had.

But, really, think about the Roman and Greek temple worship? Was it that vastly different then what we see, today?

Were believers not called from such? Did they not have to continue in living with such influences?

Have no friendship with the world, nor the worldly, and teach the children the same.

The child will ultimately will have to answer for themself. They will grow up, and their life choices are theirs to make.

The best parents can do is give them the tools of character and reliance upon the Scriptures.
 

Benjamin

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Grooming children is part of the education process. It cannot be avoided, and those who think that grooming is only about s_x choices are misguided.

Grooming goes on through teaching history and who are respected and those of ill repute.
Grooming goes on in math as one is encouraged to explore higher skilled courses.
Grooming goes on in the fine arts, literature, foreign language, and all other courses - even phys ed.

The Separatists came as "pilgrims" to America because they were concerned the children were being groomed to become Dutch.

So, grooming is not new.
Which takes away exactly nothing because of the use of the word to describe a despicable agenda directed at our children that is at issue here.

Your "grooming" comparisons could be liked to comparing eating food to eating dirt, "eating" is nothing new either and it doesn't make a case for the dirt to be someone's diet if they choose - so that word driven defense argument is absolutely meaningless.

The child will ultimately will have to answer for themself. They will grow up, and their life choices are theirs to make.
Yes, and we are told to raise up a child in the way he should go and providing a safe environment against the evil working its way into to offend our children in our schools is the responsible way to go about this.

The best parents can do is give them the tools of character and reliance upon the Scriptures.

That alone may have worked well for your kids, I thank God for helping me be a parent that could provide these tools and scripture for my children, but not all parents or even all Christians parents always have the abilities to deal with all overwhelming influences AND none of us should have to accept the kind of influences these perverts manipulate while taking over control of the environment meant for children's academic learning. As a responsible member of a community, especially a Christian one should not neglect taking action toward protecting the environment of the children in his community against such an evil which is a direct attack of the family. Action and responsibility go together and raising a child responsibly does not stop at your front door. It is like "love", you can talk love all you want but it is best demonstrated in all your actions.

As per the growing thorn from the word "grooming" being applied to the pedophiles attacking our children, Leftist may have to get used to that word being thought of as what perverts do in our schools just as the word "gay" is NOW no longer thought of as being happy.
 
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Benjamin

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You ever notice that in like 20 years, they went from "it shouldn't matter to you what we do in our bedroom" to “we know best and have a right to groom your children's sexuality as we see fit”?
 

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I as a toddler/young boy, who was sexually, physically, and emotionally abused by my mother, and other adults, and my mother always informing me she only desired to have daughter's, took it as a total rejection of me being born as a boy. Well to be accepted and loved by my mother, I started to wish and desire to "become" a girl. So I started dressing up, playing with my girl cousins dolls, playing house all in the mental attitude to reject my sex. A young child does what it must do to be loved and accepted. You see due to my mother's father and his sexual and physical abuse of his daughter's my mother truly hated men, she was in and out of Lesbianism during my child and adulthood life. I can understand why she felt this, but as a very young child, I did not have the emotional and mental capacity on how to deal with this rejection and abuse, so I always desired to "create" the different me. I in my early 20's started to see a doctor about having a sex change, but I never completely sought it out, and I thank the Lord for that!

While living in the gay lifestyle, I dressed up as a women, had many friends who were drag queens, and a couple who were transitioning for their sex change, this was all in the early 70's. Yes, as you put it "their ilk", is truly a very sad, and perverted mindset, however many that I knew suffered greatly from their family life, many suffered sexual abuse.

So I can understand their terrible confusion, and rejection of self, and they must be treated as the Lord treated any sinner! He came not to condemn, but to save.......during my life as a believer I have had many opportunities to proclaim the Changing Power of the Lord in my life, and inform them it is sin, but I must approach them with the wisdom of the Lord, and with patient waiting for the Lord's timing when to approach and testify. Jesus was friends to sinner's, for the sick are in the greatest need of being healed.
Mat_9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
And these poor souls, are as I once was.
So I pray that all men, who can not relate, ask the Lord to give them understanding and to love all who are lost. I know what I suffered at the hands of "religious persons", I was raised a Baptist, and suffered much from the hands of the children of so-called Christian parents. I was bullied, once during "Baptist boys camp", I was attacked and stripped naked in the midst of the woods, crying and desiring to be dead, the humiliation, the confusion, and the degradation of it, ruined my whole weekend, so I separated myself, and hid within my built up emotional vault to protect myself from further rejections. You see I could not understand why I was so hated and rejected of kids and certain family member's. It just added to my depressed life and sorrow.

May the Lord bless you......


Thank you for this, it brought to mind the following verse;
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

God is healing you and has called you out of what you have experienced because of the deception of the world which comes from Satan the devil according to, purpose.

And we know Rom 8:23

Be rejoiceful and praise Him.
 

CalTech

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Thank you for this, it brought to mind the following verse;
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

God is healing you and has called you out of what you have experienced because of the deception of the world which comes from Satan the devil according to, purpose.

And we know Rom 8:23

Be rejoiceful and praise Him.


Greetings,

Thank you for the encouragement. it's been 44 years since my first encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ, and HE has been faithful in dealing with all what I suffered, He has brought "healing in His Wings", And as He said "
Psa_27:10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

And HE has done so........HE is my EVERYTHING........

Lord bless you....
In His Love.....
 

Benjamin

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Ahh, no we won't:
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CalTech

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I have no problem in stating that homosexuality and transgender beliefs are sinful. I also state that TV shows groom your children, as does music and your children's friends. You and your wife groom your children. Are you not sinners who can display godless behavior and words to your young ones? Are you afraid of your own sinful nature? You should be. What you model to your kids will far more effect them than some kindergarten teacher in Walla Walla or wherever they were.
There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield.


Greetings,

I agree with your standing. I have known many "Christian families" who due to their lack of receiving the correct doctrine, and those who were caught up in a cult, or parents who thought they were to teach believer's the way of the Lord did so without them being chosen by the Lord, but according to the "deceitfulness" of their own fleshly hearts!

Do you know what happened with their children? The Parents who thought they were to teach believer's......well they are now divorced, he has remarried, and their son is now living in the gay life! Those who were involved in a cult? Their children want nothing to do with the Lord and are living in sin, I doubt they were truly born again in the first place, and many lives were severely spiritually damaged.

AMEN to your statement "many evils lurking in your own hearts" That is what Roman's 7 & 8 explains this quite correctly!

That is why many within the "churches" are not being taught nor led by the Holy Spirit to "die daily" to the flesh. And Only the Holy Spirit can get you there. Until a believer is able to believe, like Job, Jeremiah, Isaiah, David........I am but a worm....or a speck of dust......that they truly are worth nothing, because It is ALL about Jesus Christ and Him Crucified and risen from the Dead! HE is the only One that is Worthy, and HE needs to be our ALL, for we are NOTHING without Him!

If believer's are not mourning, and grieving over their sinful hearts, and see their backsliding ways, their lack of love for the Lord, all by the Power of the Holy Spirit......then those believer's are usually the most self-righteous in their attitudes and behavior's towards sinner's, and struggling believer's.

It is all very sad..........

The Lord bless you.....
In His Love....
 

Revmitchell

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It is absolutely outrageous to claim the parents attempting to shield their children from the ongoing “grooming” are a bigger danger to their children than the deviants doing the grooming.

Your is distorted, corrupted, poisoned by liberalism.

peace to you

Outrageous and stupid
 

AustinC

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It is absolutely outrageous to claim the parents attempting to shield their children from the ongoing “grooming” are a bigger danger to their children than the deviants doing the grooming.

Your is distorted, corrupted, poisoned by liberalism.

peace to you
Your post, above, is distorted and corrupted, since I never once claimed "parents attempting to shield their children from the ongoing “grooming” are a bigger danger to their children than the deviants doing the grooming."

That is your false claim against my statement and therefore you have defamed me falsely to which you owe me an apology.

What I stated is that parents play a much bigger role in grooming their children than does a kindergarten teacher. If this is not so, then the parent(s) is being negligent in their duties. I expect that Christian parents will groom their children to know Christ while that child is under the covenant of grace in that home.

Now, an apology is in order by you, towards me as you have falsely claimed I said something which I never said.
 

canadyjd

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Your post, above, is distorted and corrupted, since I never once claimed "parents attempting to shield their children from the ongoing “grooming” are a bigger danger to their children than the deviants doing the grooming."….

Now, an apology is in order by you, towards me as you have falsely claimed I said something which I never said.
This is what you said in this OP.

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Are you afraid of your own sinful nature? You should be. What you model to your kids will far more effect them than some kindergarten teacher in Walla Walla or wherever they were.
There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield.
You have compared what “evil lurks in my heart” to the grooming of children for sexual exportation by the trans agenda, claiming my “evil” will have “far more effect than the kindergarten teacher” and then stated my “evils” will “cause my children a lifetime of anguish”

You have slandered me. And then you demand an apology.

peace to you
 

AustinC

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This is what you said in this OP.


You have compared what “evil lurks in my heart” to the grooming of children for sexual exportation by the trans agenda, claiming my “evil” will have “far more effect than the kindergarten teacher” and then stated my “evils” will “cause my children a lifetime of anguish”

You have slandered me. And then you demand an apology.

peace to you
Again, false statement about what I said. It seems you struggle with comprehending what I have said.

I ask you this. Did your children's kindergarten teacher groom your children to be transgender or homosexual? If not, then you cry out against a phantom that does not exist. What does exist is your own heart and your own person who directly affects your children. I call you (and myself) to daily check our own conscience and see what we are doing and saying in our children's presence that either glorifies God or glorifies our own sinfulness.

Does this clarify my meaning to you?
We as parents will have a much greater influence on our children than a kindergarten teacher. It is our sinful and wretched hearts that they will emulate. Pray to God that He keeps us from falling. It is in our own hearts where we wage war against evil. It is what Paul decries in Romans 7 and it is Christ whom he glorifies in Romans 8.

How you so grossly misunderstood me is beyond my grasp.
 

canadyjd

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Again, false statement about what I said. It seems you struggle with comprehending what I have said.

I ask you this. Did your children's kindergarten teacher groom your children to be transgender or homosexual? If not, then you cry out against a phantom that does not exist. What does exist is your own heart and your own person who directly affects your children. I call you (and myself) to daily check our own conscience and see what we are doing and saying in our children's presence that either glorifies God or glorifies our own sinfulness.

Does this clarify my meaning to you?
We as parents will have a much greater influence on our children than a kindergarten teacher. It is our sinful and wretched hearts that they will emulate. Pray to God that He keeps us from falling. It is in our own hearts where we wage war against evil. It is what Paul decries in Romans 7 and it is Christ whom he glorifies in Romans 8.

How you so grossly misunderstood me is beyond my grasp.
There is no misunderstanding. With reference to how I raise my children YOU CALLED ME EVIL!!!!!

I am done
 

AustinC

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There is no misunderstanding. With reference to how I raise my children YOU CALLED ME EVIL!!!!!

I am done
Sir, I did not call you evil. You are creating a phantom argument and ascribing it to me. Your incapacity to comprehend my statements is quite baffling which has led to your incredulation. I clearly cannot help you over the stumbling block you have laid for yourself.
It would be nice, however, if you could see the false claims you are making and then apologize for them. But, I accept that you cannot see your error.
 

Revmitchell

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Sir, I did not call you evil. You are creating a phantom argument and ascribing it to me. Your incapacity to comprehend my statements is quite baffling which has led to your incredulation. I clearly cannot help you over the stumbling block you have laid for yourself.
It would be nice, however, if you could see the false claims you are making and then apologize for them. But, I accept that you cannot see your error.

So who was the following quote from you intended to?

"There are many, many evils lurking in your own heart that will cause your children a lifetime of anguish. Look a lot closer because that's your battlefield."
 
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