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The Long Ending of Mark and The Woman Caught in Adultery According To The Byzantine Text

JesusFan

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Advocates of the Byzantine textform position such as Dr. Maurice Robinson do not "count mss" and do not use the majority methods of Hodges and Farstad, or Wilbur Pickering.

Please clarify. In your very long quote I only see four.

And how is Wallace more knowledgeable than "famed textual critic" Metzger, who I quoted as saying four Greek endings?

I have quoted Metzger contra your understanding of Wallace. And while I respect Wallace's worldwide pursuit of new Greek mss, and his Greek expertise (I've taught from his textbook), in textual criticism he is not in the class of Metzger, who (though I disagree with him) is one of the editors of the UBS text, and author of authoritative books on textual criticism.

I'll wait for you to specifically give from your Wallace quote the "more than four" Greek endings, because I don't see it.
Both Dr Wallace and Dr Metzger were far more knowledgably in the field of textual criticism, and especially Wallace in the Greek texts, than pretty much any in say KJVO camp.
 

JesusFan

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I remain persuaded Mark 16:9-20 is original to Mark.

Proverbs 30:5-6, Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Those translations that have it as a footnote of not being found in originals, do you still see them as being valid English bibles ?
 

Conan

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Both Dr Wallace and Dr Metzger were far more knowledgably in the field of textual criticism, and especially Wallace in the Greek texts, than pretty much any in say KJVO camp.
While that is true. They know a lot more than the KJVO camp. But those two are still both wrong about what the best Greek Manuscripts are, and what Greek editions to use in Bible translation. Heck, if we are going to be honest, KJVO has more accurate Greek Texts than those two. While those two will improve a reading or two, they will get 7 or 8 more wrong. No offense meant brother.
 

John of Japan

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Both Dr Wallace and Dr Metzger were far more knowledgably in the field of textual criticism, and especially Wallace in the Greek texts, than pretty much any in say KJVO camp.
On the other hand, Byzantine priority advocate Dr. Maurice Robinson, with a PhD in textual criticism, has more education and experience in the field than Wallace, and Metzger believes there are errors in Scripture (he mentored Bart Ehrman in this, who then became an atheist), so I'll go with Robinson any time.
 
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JesusFan

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On the other hand, Byzantine priority advocate Dr. Maurice Robinson, with a PhD in textual criticism, has more education and experience in the field than Wallace, and Metzger believes there are errors in Scripture (he mentored Bart Ehrman in this, who then became an atheist), so I'll go with Robinson any time.
All of them would be preferred to be reading and going with then those who make up the camp of textual experts and scholars in the Kjvo camp

Just curious, did Dr Metzger actually teach that the originals themselves had errors and mistakes in them?
 

JesusFan

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While that is true. They know a lot more than the KJVO camp. But those two are still both wrong about what the best Greek Manuscripts are, and what Greek editions to use in Bible translation. Heck, if we are going to be honest, KJVO has more accurate Greek Texts than those two. While those two will improve a reading or two, they will get 7 or 8 more wrong. No offense meant brother.
None taken, but still do see CT and MT and BZT Greek texts as essentially stating to us the same bible, its just more a matter of preference and convections
 
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