The Lord Looks Down & Shakes His Head

[Marcia]

If something of that magnitude occurs, I will normally stop the requests and immediate began prayer for the family, going directly to them and, perhaps, asking those who so desire to stand around the family, hold hands or touch them on the shoulders as we pray. It shows them we are all focused on their needs at that moment and share (as best any Christian brethren can) the sorrow of their loss.

I think this is a good way to handle this and have seen this done as well. When someone clearly has a strong need and/or has experienced something devastating, stop and pray for them immediately. It is very caring and comforting for the person who is suffering.

 

[Marcia]

Nowhere do we see in the bible to pray for animals. We do see where we are to pray for the church, etc. The discerning would hear a request made for the dog and know it was really the emotional state of the family that needed prayer. To place animals in the same catagory of needing equal mercy and grace as mankind? I think I'm beginning to see creature worship starting to surface and that worship is a link to paganism. Praying for the dog by comparison is trivial, not praying for the emotional wellbeing of the owners is uncaring. Animals and people on the same level? "I command all trees, animals, men,etc. to repent!" just doesn't sound quite right, sounds trivial.

This is not placing animals in the same category as people or making them equal to people. It is rather seeing each person's request as meaningful and something to take to the Lord.

Taking prayer requests honors the person asking for prayer; what they ask for is not something we should judge. The requests are for prayer to God, not for you to care about. If you do care, then that's great; if not, then you let the Lord deal with it.

 

[Steven2006]

If nothing else, this thread proves that we can argue over anything.

 

[tinytim]

If nothing else, this thread proves that we can argue over anything.

NO we can't!!! :laugh:

 

[tinytim]

The craziest prayer request I ever heard was when I was a teen.. and someone requested that Bo and Hope (Days of our lives soap opera) would get together!

 

[Steven2006]

NO we can't!!! :laugh:

LOL :laugh:

 

[donnA]

Why is it we agree but you feel you have to insult me?

Should our care be about others and our circumstances as well? But why should the same esteem be placed upon items.

I have said we should pray for our brothers in what effects them emotionally and you say I don't understand.

I try not to insult you, ut it seems you have some sort of mental block when you respond to me and dcorbett as well.

you are wrong we do not agree, no where near it

 

[Mexdeaf]

I didn't say you said anything, but you do leave it wide open for that conclusion.

Why not just discuss what you're trying to say without all the insults. Is it somehow beyond you?

I notice a certain group of the very same members who respond to others the way you have mch too often. If you want me to pray for your dog rather than you, ok.:type:

Paul, grow up!!!

 

[HAMel]

If nothing else, this thread proves that we can argue over anything.

Yes, there has been much division here. Which is typical of too many churches now-a-days.

To whom, I wonder, can we attribute this confusion to?

 

[Aaron]

To whom, I wonder, can we attribute this confusion to?

Women in the ministry.




















:tongue3:

 

[Mexdeaf]

If nothing else, this thread proves that we can argue over anything.

Yes, there has been much division here. Which is typical of too many churches now-a-days.

To whom, I wonder, can we attribute this confusion to?

This isn't a church. If it was I'd have to practice tertiary separation.

 

[paul wassona]

you are wrong we do not agree, no where near it

Sad. That means the bible I've referred to, you are against and also makes you schizmatic. Emotionalism does that to people: emotional over animals and such. Sad. People and the course of life they're in at the time are important to me and even more important to the Lord.

 

[paul wassona]

Paul, grow up!!!

Just more insults is all you have for me and I should grow up???? This way you can feel superior.

 

[dcorbett]

Sad. That means the bible I've referred to, you are against and also makes you schizmatic. Emotionalism does that to people: emotional over animals and such. Sad. People and the course of life they're in at the time are important to me and even more important to the Lord.

Paul, my profession after 10 years of animal control has been 13 years as a telecommunications officer. I have dealt with every kind of person there is....and animal fanatics are part of the bunch. We have people who see a 30 yr old horse and demand that we do something about the condition of the animal. They don't know that 30 yr old horses look as old as they are. :tongue3: and the horseowner gets irate for good reason.....nosey people that need to find something better to do with their time.

I say that to point out that there are some people here that apparently think animals are as important as people. You and I won't change their "animal ethics", and speaking of animals and animal stories....“Never argue with a pig, it just frustrates you and annoys the pig.”

nuff said.

 

[Marcia]

I say that to point out that there are some people here that apparently think animals are as important as people. You and I won't change their "animal ethics", and speaking of animals and animal stories....“Never argue with a pig, it just frustrates you and annoys the pig.”

nuff said.

No one here has said an animal is as important as a person. You're missing the point. What we've said is that every prayer request is important to God and we should not judge it.

 

[dcorbett]

No one here has said an animal is as important as a person. You're missing the point. What we've said is that every prayer request is important to God and we should not judge it.

No dear, you are missing the point...I never said one prayer request is more important to God than another....I said, as humans, we must prioritize or we will be sitting at church all night and the next day.

 

[HAMel]

But Mexdeaf, You said, "This isn't a church. If it was I'd have to practice tertiary separation."

Have you considered, Mt 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

I think the Lord could read this forum should he so desire? Don't you agree?

 

[Marcia]

No dear, you are missing the point...I never said one prayer request is more important to God than another....I said, as humans, we must prioritize or we will be sitting at church all night and the next day.

But you are not God; God does not give us a list of priorities for prayer requests. We should respect every prayer request. We have no cap on prayer requests at my church and we don't sit there all night and all day.

And what if God does want you to sit there all night and all day? Maybe it would be a good thing.

PS, I'm not your "dear."

 

[Marcia]

But Mexdeaf, You said, "This isn't a church. If it was I'd have to practice tertiary separation."

Have you considered, Mt 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

I think the Lord could read this forum should he so desire? Don't you agree?

Matt. 18:20 is in the context of church discipline.

 

[donnA]

Sad. That means the bible I've referred to, you are against and also makes you schizmatic. Emotionalism does that to people: emotional over animals and such. Sad. People and the course of life they're in at the time are important to me and even more important to the Lord.

it's you who do not beleive in the bible, God says cast all your cares on Him, and you don't beleive it, you've been arguing against it, telling us plainly God doens't care enough to want to hear from us.