The Man on the Middle Cross

[Brightfame52]

The cross made salvation possible for all. Our faith makes it actual for the individual.

1Jn 2:2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

but it is only those that have trusted in the risen Christ that will be justified/saved.

Rom 4:5 However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God

Our justification is grounded in Christ Jesus but we are justified because we believe.

Rom 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.


In the NT we find six aspects of Justification

We are justified by grace (Tit_3:5-7, Eph 2:8-9) — that means we do not deserve it.

We are justified by faith (Rom_5:1-2, Gal 2:16) — that means that we have to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to receive it.

We are justified by blood (Rom_5:9-10, Rom_3:25) — that refers to the price the Savior paid in order that we might be justified.

We are justified by power (Rom_4:24-25) — the same power that raised the Lord Jesus from the dead.

We are justified by God (Gal_3:8-9, Rom 3:30) — He is the One who reckons us righteous.

We are justified by our works (Jas_2:18, Jas_2:24, Jas 2:26) — not meaning that good works earn justification, but that they are the evidence that we have been justified.

Every last one of those scriptures apply only to the elect

 

[Ben1445]

Simply knowing the words of Christ and trusting them.
John 6:37. "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will never cast out."

But tell me, you who are relying on your faith: how do you know that your faith will endure? How do you know that some crafty atheist is not going to refute all your arguments and shatter your supposedly unshakeable faith?

You don’t rely on faith. You rely on the Saviour. That is faith.

2 Timothy 1:12
For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

 

[Ben1445]

Every last one of those scriptures apply only to the elect

That is your opinion. It is not accurate. It is a poor side door exit without a good confrontation of the text brought up.

 

[Ascetic X]

Bingo! Salvation goes no further than those whose sins have been atoned for, paid in full. Its not the cross PLUS faith that saves. Faith is not an addendum to the cross. As Dr. Greg Bahnsen once said, "If justification is grounded in our faith, then it is grounded in something about us."

Dr. Greg Bahnsen must not have read these verses.

Romans 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 2:16

know that a man is not justified by works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

So you do not actually believe the word of God, that is quite the revelation from a preacher.
1Jn 2:2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

This is what makes it so depressing to discuss with you. You keep trotting out the same verses without listening to what you have been told.
First of all, the words, "The sins of" do not appear in any ancient manuscript. Secondly, "the whole world" only rarely means "all the people in the world.' Thirdly, if The Lord Jesus is the atoning sacrifice (or "propitiation") for every person in the world, then God is propitiated in respect of all the people in the world and every single person will be saved, which is clearly not the case.

All this has been explained to you more than once and not so long ago. I for one am sick to death of wiping your theological bottom for you, only for you to foul things up again. For goodness sake, read the replies you receive and don't keep repeating the same nonsense.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

You don’t rely on faith. You rely on the Saviour. That is faith.

2 Timothy 1:12
For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

You are exactly right! But the question is, what saviour is one relying on? The devils in hell believe there was someone called Jesus of Nazareth who did a lot of good stuff. They even believe that He is the Son of God (e.g. Matt. 8:29), but it does them no good at all. The faith that saves is seeing oneself as a lost sinner, justly under the condemnation of God, and casting oneself on the Lord Jesus Christ and His blood shed upon the cross for sinners. That is what 2 Tim. 1:12 is about.
But faith itself gets no one anywhere. You may believe that your car will get you from San Diego to Duluth, but however sincere that faith may be, if your car breaks down 15 miles into the journey, then that faith (and maybe the car!) is worthless. It's not the faith that counts; it's the object of faith.

 

[Brightfame52]

That is your opinion. It is not accurate. It is a poor side door exit without a good confrontation of the text brought up.

Actually its the Truth I witness to

 

[SovereignGrace]

Dr. Greg Bahnsen must not have read these verses.

Romans 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 2:16

know that a man is not justified by works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

Trust me, he knew his Bible inside and out. We are justified by, not through, faith. Faith is evidence of justification not the cause.