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The Mark of the beast is around the corner!

tyndale1946

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Just heard on radio that the bar code placed on clothes at walmart is!

Mark of the Beast what a bunch of baloney... Let me inform the OP of something that happened recently... A distant friend in Washington State was out with his wife who had early stage dementia... They were going out for a walk with their dog and it was raining, so he stepped inside his house to grab an umbrella and when he returned five minutes later his wife and the dog were gone... There was a river about a quarter mile from their house and they searched and searched all the surrounding area... They never found her or the dog:Cry... I think she could have benefited from a chip... OH NO George Orwell 1984... What if that chip saved your life?... Or the life of a loved one?... Evan would say... The Government will know about me?... HELLO!... The Government already knows all about you and me, ect, ect, ect... SURPRISE!... I don't know what others on here think but this technology could be very beneficial to us all... Then again the chip could send a signal to the mother ship circling earth and we could be invaded by aliens, who will capture us and we will be DINNER!... Sorry I got carried away:Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao... Brother Glen:Biggrin:D
 

evangelist6589

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Mark of the Beast what a bunch of baloney... Let me inform the OP of something that happened recently... A distant friend in Washington State was out with his wife who had early stage dementia... They were going out for a walk with their dog and it was raining, so he stepped inside his house to grab an umbrella and when he returned five minutes later his wife and the dog were gone... There was a river about a quarter mile from their house and they searched and searched all the surrounding area... They never found her or the dog:Cry... I think she could have benefited from a chip... OH NO George Orwell 1984... What if that chip saved your life?... Or the life of a loved one?... Evan would say... The Government will know about me?... HELLO!... The Government already knows all about you and me, ect, ect, ect... SURPRISE!... I don't know what others on here think but this technology could be very beneficial to us all... Then again the chip could send a signal to the mother ship circling earth and we could be invaded by aliens, who will capture us and we will be DINNER!... Sorry I got carried away:Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao... Brother Glen:Biggrin:D

I miss the ability to rate a post as "dumb."
 

robycop3

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Except biblically this mark is one of a spiritual nature and not technology itself, regardless how it is manifested (or even if it is a literal "mark").

No, it'll be physical. I could still buy or sell regardless of my spiritual state.

A common error made by many is reducing some Scriptures from literal to "figurative/symbolic" status, which is tampering with God's word by adding or subtracting from its TRUE meaning.
 

robycop3

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WRONG!!

Yes, I have read Tim Lahaye. My "theory" is not a theory - it is what Scripture says. Those people worshipped the dragon and the beast who made war with the saints. You are interpreting scripture through your culture (and, granted, this technology could be a method).

I am not saying this couldn't be the case. But it D. A. Carson's interpretation could also be correct (that this is not necessarily a visible mark but an allegiance). And the point of passage is not some microchip but the war between the Beast and the saints. No one will receive the mark but those who reject God.

You do understand what went on during the Roman persecutions don't you?


MMRRPP! WRONG!

Let's see what Scripture REALLY says!

Rev. 13:7 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

This is speaking of the antichrist/beast. We see he will rule the world.

Rev. 13:16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

This is speaking of the beast from the earth, the false prophet, the antichrist's deputy. Evidently, this mark will be some sorta microchip, coded so it cannot be duplicated, with the antichrist's name or number.

Before the "beasts" come to power, this tech will be hyped as" "Never worry about losing your bank card or having it stolen again! It's theft-proof & loss-proof, being coded to YOUR DNA & other physical chemistry present only in a living body, so no one can kill you to use your chip! IT'S COMPLETELY FOOL-PROOF!"" Thus, it'll be widely-accepted before the beast makes it compulsory.

Right now, there's still Christian resistence to even this limited use of implants by one company, so I believe the rapture will occur before this tech is fully-implemented worldwide.
 

JonC

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Mark of the Beast what a bunch of baloney... Let me inform the OP of something that happened recently... A distant friend in Washington State was out with his wife who had early stage dementia... They were going out for a walk with their dog and it was raining, so he stepped inside his house to grab an umbrella and when he returned five minutes later his wife and the dog were gone... There was a river about a quarter mile from their house and they searched and searched all the surrounding area... They never found her or the dog:Cry... I think she could have benefited from a chip... OH NO George Orwell 1984... What if that chip saved your life?... Or the life of a loved one?... Evan would say... The Government will know about me?... HELLO!... The Government already knows all about you and me, ect, ect, ect... SURPRISE!... I don't know what others on here think but this technology could be very beneficial to us all... Then again the chip could send a signal to the mother ship circling earth and we could be invaded by aliens, who will capture us and we will be DINNER!... Sorry I got carried away:Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao... Brother Glen:Biggrin:D
The chip is not a gps
MMRRPP! WRONG!

Let's see what Scripture REALLY says!

Rev. 13:7 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

This is speaking of the antichrist/beast. We see he will rule the world.

Rev. 13:16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

This is speaking of the beast from the earth, the false prophet, the antichrist's deputy. Evidently, this mark will be some sorta microchip, coded so it cannot be duplicated, with the antichrist's name or number.

Before the "beasts" come to power, this tech will be hyped as" "Never worry about losing your bank card or having it stolen again! It's theft-proof & loss-proof, being coded to YOUR DNA & other physical chemistry present only in a living body, so no one can kill you to use your chip! IT'S COMPLETELY FOOL-PROOF!"" Thus, it'll be widely-accepted before the beast makes it compulsory.

Right now, there's still Christian resistence to even this limited use of implants by one company, so I believe the rapture will occur before this tech is fully-implemented worldwide.
Sorry, my bad. I was using the NASB which seems to indicate those with the mark of the Beast are those who worship the Beast (14:9 speaks of those who worship the Beast and receive his mark...I never considered these could also be separate groups...and I still think that a mistaken view)
 

The Biblicist

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When I go down to the grocery store they expect something with a physical property from me (cash, credit card, food stamps, etc.) in order to finalize me taking something from them. Buying and selling requires some kind of trade off that is finalized with some kind of physical manifestation. A common sense interpretation of this passage demands that some kind of physical manifestation is associated with the physical hand and/or forehead that acts as a finalization of this transaction.
 

JonC

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Not now Jon, but it could be... Brother Glen:)
If it were they would have told me so. Our government wouldn't follow us, spy on us, or collect information about us without asking first. That's Government 101. We can trust them not because they are of us but because they have our best interest at heart. :Geek
 

InTheLight

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If it were they would have told me so. Our government wouldn't follow us, spy on us, or collect information about us without asking first. That's Government 101. We can trust them not because they are of us but because they have our best interest at heart. :Geek
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Don

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When I go down to the grocery store they expect something with a physical property from me (cash, credit card, food stamps, etc.) in order to finalize me taking something from them. Buying and selling requires some kind of trade off that is finalized with some kind of physical manifestation. A common sense interpretation of this passage demands that some kind of physical manifestation is associated with the physical hand and/or forehead that acts as a finalization of this transaction.
Actually, the only physical part may be your hand or forehead.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sg=AFQjCNGd0y3HYBvKiwAIi14JoFLDMFxYMg&ampcf=1

(Hope the link works...if not, do a Google for "world bank electronic currency". I went with Forbes rather than the crackpot conspiracy theory sites)
 

robycop3

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Actually, the only physical part may be your hand or forehead.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sg=AFQjCNGd0y3HYBvKiwAIi14JoFLDMFxYMg&ampcf=1

(Hope the link works...if not, do a Google for "world bank electronic currency". I went with Forbes rather than the crackpot conspiracy theory sites)


Could be - if the antichrist's electronix has every person's DNA mapped out. But John evidently saw a "mark" being given, so I tend to believe it'll be some kinda implanted tech.
 

JamesL

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Could be - if the antichrist's electronix has every person's DNA mapped out. But John evidently saw a "mark" being given, so I tend to believe it'll be some kinda implanted tech.
Tattoos, barcodes, iron branding.....

People have been reading current technology into these passages for a while
 
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