Reformed1689
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I'm not asking what you personally believe, I am asking if there is a possibility.
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The mark of the beast will be literal...
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1689Dave
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Not much you can say at this point.
katblue87
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Do you really think our salvation could hinge on being deceived and unknowingly taking the mark of the beast?
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1689Dave
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All the reprobates will receive it and have in the past. The elect cannot receive it.
“And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8 (KJV 1900)
Yes, regardless of what it actually is, their will be no doubt that by taking it, will be acknowledging that antichrist is their Lord!
So, as Jesus said the stars shall fall, do you believe the actual stars will fall ?
Will the antichrist be raised back to life. as that is "literal"
I aint blind, I see color, & I have common sense. Your arguments don't convince anyone but preterists that you're right.
Doubtful, not the kind we know of, at least.
Yes. Scripture says ALL who take it are condemned.
One mof the "heads" of his empire will receive what appears to be a "fatal wound".
Rev. 17:9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. The 5 fallen kingdoms were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, & Greece. The 6th that then was, was Rome. The 7th was the Holy Roman empire, The first 5 were individual nations. The last two were empires, made up of many nations & peoples, including the first 5 as parts of them.
Napoleon & Mussolini tried to re-create the HRE. But GOD stepped in! He stopped Napoleon from taking the British Isles & Egypt; He stopped Mussolini everywhere but Italy itself. But apparently, the beast/antichrist will succeed. What we don't know, of course, is what he will call his empire.
And this 8th empire, regardless of its name, will at first be made largely of the nations from the old Roman empires. Rev. 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction. The eastern Roman empire of Constantine was part of the old Roman empire of the 1st century.
The beginnings of the HRE was the frankish empire mof Charlemagne. But it was awhile til the full HRE was formed. The HRE was from 1254 til 1806 when Napoleon took over & ousted Francis II from the throne. But as I stated above, God stopped him from re-assembling the old empire.
The beast will likely mention the Roman empire, & the world will marvel at his having re-assembled it, thus healing the "fatal wound" it'd received in 1806.
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Reformed1689
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There is much I could say, just not going to continue wasting my time.
Sportzz Fanzz, no doubt about it; the world's headed toward welcoming the beast/antichrist with open arms. He may or may not be born already.
He will SEEM to be the answer to many prayers. He will solve many world problems & appear to be the reincarnation of Solomon. He will become a statesman of great ability, a charismatic figure with super speaking ability, able to persuade many recalcitrant leaders to see things his way. But his abilities will come from his being indwelt by Satan himself, who, remember, can appear to be an angel of light. Thus, his wisdom & ability will be superhuman.
His true nature won't be manifest until he gains power. it won't come overnight. But, Christians, if you see some man rise from nowhere to become a leader & speaker of tremendous ability, "look up, for your redemption draws near". (the rapture)
He will SEEM to be the answer to many prayers. He will solve many world problems & appear to be the reincarnation of Solomon. He will become a statesman of great ability, a charismatic figure with super speaking ability, able to persuade many recalcitrant leaders to see things his way. But his abilities will come from his being indwelt by Satan himself, who, remember, can appear to be an angel of light. Thus, his wisdom & ability will be superhuman.
His true nature won't be manifest until he gains power. it won't come overnight. But, Christians, if you see some man rise from nowhere to become a leader & speaker of tremendous ability, "look up, for your redemption draws near". (the rapture)
LOL. You're begging the question.
Well it appears your mind is made up about it.. I have to hand it to you that you won't be confused by facts. Have a good one.
timtofly
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That is not what John wrote in Revelation, but you can interpret John any way you see fit. Many do.
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