The Mustard Seed

[Doubting Thomas]

To save your life you have to lose your life.

But you didn't actually answer my question.

 

[davidoregonJr]

But you didn't actually answer my question.

And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

BUT YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

 

[davidoregonJr]

There is no darkness,

in the Light.

All you will find in darkness,

is evil.

All you will find in the Light,

is the Truth.

If you stay in the Truth,

that you find in the Light.

It will make you free,

to walk in the Righteousness of Christ.

 

[davidoregonJr]

Resist not correction.

The amount of correction you will receive.

Will determine the amount of progress with the Lord.

You will make.

Do not confuse stubbornness with Faith.

Flee from stubbornness.

I have seen a many a person's stubbornness.

Cheat them and their love ones.

Out of the good things of life and God.


If you will do what is right.

God will do the rest.

If you do what is wrong.

You will find yourself.

Going the wrong way.

This is when you are lost.

Then you will stop and ask for directions.

From someone who is also going the wrong way.

And become even more lost than you were before.

You know right from wrong.

Do what is right in the eyes of the Lord.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

BUT YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

A conversation is two ways. It's clear that you have no intention of talking WITH folks here, you just want to talk AT them while ignoring the questions they ask. Why is that?

 

[davidoregonJr]

A conversation is two ways. It's clear that you have no intention of talking WITH folks here, you just want to talk AT them while ignoring the questions they ask. Why is that?

He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a
wicked man getteth himself a blot.

Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

I am expecting lots of love from you.

 

[davidoregonJr]

Two men were looking at a glass filled half way with water.


Man A... says to Man B

what do you see?

Man B said:

I see water surrounded by glass with air on top.

Man C was standing there and over heard them and said...I see something

good to drink from the Lord.


My Lord what they do not want from you

bring it over here to me...I will take it.

amen

 

[Doubting Thomas]

He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a
wicked man getteth himself a blot.

Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

I am expecting lots of love from you.

So from asking you a simple question--one you haven't answered--you've deduced I am a scorner?

Do you find your style of communication to be effective, when you keep quoting Scriptures stream-of-consciousness style, without actually interacting with the folks you are speaking with?

Paul stated he tried to become all things to all people that he might be able to save some. Do you not think this might be a better approach than what you are doing now?

Do you feel this is the best use of the Lord's time? I have discerned answering you is not the best use of time so far, but I'll wait to see if actually answer my questions or if you just decide to call me another name.

 

[davidoregonJr]

So from asking you a simple question--one you haven't answered--you've deduced I am a scorner?

Do you find your style of communication to be effective, when you keep quoting Scriptures stream-of-consciousness style, without actually interacting with the folks you are speaking with?

Paul stated he tried to become all things to all people that he might be able to save some. Do you not think this might be a better approach than what you are doing now?

Do you feel this is the best use of the Lord's time? I have discerned answering you is not the best use of time so far, but I'll wait to see if actually answer my questions or if you just decide to call me another name.

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

I am not Paul. And I am not you.

If I do not interact with you to suit you...then you can always move along.

Can you not?

Whatsoever you have

the Lord bless you with twice as much.

amen

 

[Doubting Thomas]

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

I am not Paul. And I am not you.

If I do not interact with you to suit you...then you can always move along.

Can you not?

Indeed, I can and will move on. But pehaps you can learn something from Paul, and perhaps you may get further in your endeavors without false accusations and by actually trying to have a meaningful interaction with people.

Good day.

If the salt has lost its savor it's good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

Let every man be swift to HEAR, slow to SPEAK, and slow to wrath.

Yet the SPEAKING continues unabated. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[davidoregonJr]

Let every man be swift to HEAR, slow to SPEAK, and slow to wrath.

Yet the SPEAKING continues unabated. :smilewinkgrin:

God hears every word.

I would recommend that you read my post on stubbornness.

It would profit you greatly to be swift to hear what I said about it.

I know...first hand...I am speaking from experience.

If you will flee from stubbornness and doing any evil...the wrath of God will leave you.

Whatsoever you have the Lord bless you with 4 times as much.

amen

 

[davidoregonJr]

The Bible is not the Word of God.

The Bible is a book of books written by men.

The Word of God was around long long long long before the Bible came into existence.

In fact when the heathens begin to call the Jews whom were the disciples of Jesus,

at Antioch, Christians.

There was no such thing as the Bible.

You can find the Words of God in many of the books

of the Bible.

They are recorded on many of the pages of the Bible.

That does not make the Bible the Word of God.

That just makes the Bible a book with many of the

Words of God written upon its pages.

Just like a temple with the Spirit of God within it.

The temple is not God.

A book with the Words of God recorded upon its pages is

not the Word of God.

Christian denominations and Christian non denominations

are the product of the teachings of men who have their own interpretation of

the verses in the Bible.

If you read the commandments of Jesus.

To which Jesus commanded all his disciples to obey.

If you will take those same commandments of Jesus.

And apply it to what the majority of the Christian Pastors.

And the majority of the Christian Preachers

And the majority of the Christian Evangelists

And the majority of the Christian population say and do.

You will find.

If you are honest with your own heart.

That what you have been taught as Truth.

And what is being taught as the Truth.

Is really one big lie.

One right after another.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

The Bible is not the Word of God.

The Bible is a book of books written by men.

The Word of God was around long long long long before the Bible came into existence.

In fact when the heathens begin to call the Jews whom were the disciples of Jesus,

at Antioch, Christians.

There was no such thing as the Bible.

You can find the Words of God in many of the books

of the Bible.

They are recorded on many of the pages of the Bible.

That does not make the Bible the Word of God.

That just makes the Bible a book with many of the

Words of God written upon its pages.

Just like a temple with the Spirit of God within it.

The temple is not God.

A book with the Words of God recorded upon its pages is

not the Word of God.

Christian denominations and Christian non denominations

are the product of the teachings of men who have their own interpretation of

the verses in the Bible.

If you read the commandments of Jesus.

To which Jesus commanded all his disciples to obey.

If you will take those same commandments of Jesus.

And apply it to what the majority of the Christian Pastors.

And the majority of the Christian Preachers

And the majority of the Christian Evangelists

And the majority of the Christian population say and do.

You will find.

If you are honest with your own heart.

That what you have been taught as Truth.

And what is being taught as the Truth.

Is really one big lie.

One right after another.

Thus speaketh one based on his own interpretation. The one interpretation that purportedly trumps everyone elses. For in order to accuse others' 'Truth' of being "really one big lie", that one's interpretation has to be THE 'Truth'. But this begs the question--why are we to believe that your interpretation is TRUE and everyone elses is "really one big lie"? Should we just take your word for it that you speak the the 'Truth' based on your interpretation of the Bible, and every else has been taught lies "one right after another"? What makes you different from many others who from time to time have risen up and proclaimed everyone else is wrong in interpretating the Bible?

 

[Thinkingstuff]

The Bible is not the Word of God.

The Bible is a book of books written by men.

The Word of God was around long long long long before the Bible came into existence.

In fact when the heathens begin to call the Jews whom were the disciples of Jesus,

at Antioch, Christians.

There was no such thing as the Bible.

You can find the Words of God in many of the books

of the Bible.

They are recorded on many of the pages of the Bible.

That does not make the Bible the Word of God.

That just makes the Bible a book with many of the

Words of God written upon its pages.

Just like a temple with the Spirit of God within it.

The temple is not God.

A book with the Words of God recorded upon its pages is

not the Word of God.

Christian denominations and Christian non denominations

are the product of the teachings of men who have their own interpretation of

the verses in the Bible.

If you read the commandments of Jesus.

To which Jesus commanded all his disciples to obey.

If you will take those same commandments of Jesus.

And apply it to what the majority of the Christian Pastors.

And the majority of the Christian Preachers

And the majority of the Christian Evangelists

And the majority of the Christian population say and do.

You will find.

If you are honest with your own heart.

That what you have been taught as Truth.

And what is being taught as the Truth.

Is really one big lie.

One right after another.

There are two extreme points of view with regard to the word of God or the bible. The first is that God dictated all the words of the bible and it is his work alone. The second is what you propose. I believe that the truth is somewhere in between. Certainly, the bible indicates that the scriptures were God breathed. Thus God inspired men to write and those men cooperated with God by writing them. Some of it was a dictation of sorts others not. So, what we have is that God inspired men to write orchestrated events to influence the men writing its passages and men wrote as they were inspired. Thus the bible is a total work of God. It is also a work of men. Thus to say the bible contain words of God within a plethera of man's on words is not accurate. To say it is a revelation of God to man using man's abilities to perform it is.

 

[davidoregonJr]

Everything is inspired by God.

Even Satan is inspired by God.

You have to think outside the carnal mind to escape the boundaries of a book the world calls the Word of God.

I am thinking the Spirit of God speaks the Word of God.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Everything is inspired by God.

Even Satan is inspired by God.

You have to think outside the carnal mind to escape the boundaries of a book the world calls the Word of God.

I am thinking the Spirit of God speaks the Word of God.

two different consepts what you are speaking about the world or even Satan you mean

The process of being mentally stimulated to do or feel something, esp. to do something creative

When it speaks to scriptures it means God-breathed and orchestrated by God.

 

[davidoregonJr]

two different consepts what you are speaking about the world or even Satan you mean When it speaks to scriptures it means God-breathed and orchestrated by God.

How does this make a book the Word of God?

Please explain in exact detail.

Thank you.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

How does this make a book the Word of God?

Please explain in exact detail.

Thank you.

I don't know what you mean by exact detail. I will explain how I understand it.

In His goodness and wisdom God chose to reveal Himself and to make known to us the hidden purpose of His will (Eph. 1:9). Through this revelation, therefore, the invisible God speaks to men as friends so that He may invite and take them into fellowship with Himself (2 Peter 1:4) This plan of revelation is realized by deeds and words having in inner unity: the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation manifest and confirm the teaching and realities signified by the words, while the words proclaim the deeds and clarify the mystery contained in them - On the Word of God chapter 1

Using his plan of revelation and bringing about his words and deeds God Orchestrated men in many and varied ways, known as the prophets to write and compile this revelation of God. This primarily explains the Old Testiment. However, God's most full and complete revelation of himself is in Jesus Christ and his Apostles lived with him and bear personal witness to this revelation to which account they, inspired (God breathed) by the Holy Spirit, and Orchestrated by God, give account of that revelation to men by expression in writing. By which

Through divine revelation, God chose to show forth and communicate Himself and the eternal decisions of His will regarding the salvation of men. That is to say, He chose to share with them those divine treasures which totally transcend the understanding of the human mind. - On the Word of God Chapter 1

These writings were saved, copied and transmited to other churches and finally collected into one tome known as "the bible".

 

[davidoregonJr]

I don't know what you mean by exact detail. I will explain how I understand it.


Using his plan of revelation and bringing about his words and deeds God Orchestrated men in many and varied ways, known as the prophets to write and compile this revelation of God. This primarily explains the Old Testiment. However, God's most full and complete revelation of himself is in Jesus Christ and his Apostles lived with him and bear personal witness to this revelation to which account they, inspired (God breathed) by the Holy Spirit, and Orchestrated by God, give account of that revelation to men by expression in writing. By which These writings were saved, copied and transmited to other churches and finally collected into one tome known as "the bible".

Is the Word of God "the bible"?

Yea or Nay?