The Power To Go And Sin No More

[popsthebuilder]

Oh yeah, stop reading the bible on strictly literal terms, you'll begin to understand it's teachings much better.

Thanks for your ears.

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[McCree79]

Really
Getting people to think that Jesus was the only being that has the ability to be Christ like. Is effectively takeing Christ out of the equation.

You know the battle that is supposed to undue? Well Christ or Crist makes up one side of that battle. If people are confused and think Christ is only capable through Jesus, then the war is lost and we are fn fd.
I know I offend. I am truly sorry for that.

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John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "

You continue to assault the character of Jesus. There is no other capable of doing what he did.

 

[McCree79]

Oh yeah, stop reading the bible on strictly literal terms, you'll begin to understand it's teachings much better.

Thanks for your ears.

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That funny. A guy who hasn't read the Bible, telling people how to read the Bible. You have no credibility in regards to interpretation of Scripture.

 

[popsthebuilder]

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "

You continue to assault the character of Jesus. There is no other capable of doing what he did.

Please, please understand that Jesus the Crist of Nazarene was teaching through example. His deciples learned from him, and followed his example to a lesser degree. It is a way of being. Our Bible and Christ both say this. We are not to worship Jesus as much as follow him.

I mean absolutely no disrespect towards any believers in the Word, Jesus Christ, or our God, Creation/ Creator.

Thank you again, for your ears.

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[popsthebuilder]

That funny. A guy who hasn't read the Bible, telling people how to read the Bible. You have no credibility in regards to interpretation of Scripture.

I have read many ancient biblical texts. I currently read the New Testament, and Torah.
It's safe to say, in my personal opinion, that I comprehend these biblical writings quite well, due to my lack of confusion while reading. Thank you.

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[Scarlett O.]

Please, please understand that Jesus the Crist of Nazarene was teaching through example. His deciples learned from him, and followed his example to a lesser degree. It is a way of being. Our Bible and Christ both say this. We are not to worship Jesus as much as follow him.

The "discples" that you talk about who "followed his example" to a lesser degree also worshiped him - on more than one occasion.

But first,

Cornelius tried to worship Peter. Peter told him to stop that he (Peter) was only a man. (Acts)

John tried to worship the angel giving him the Revelation. The angel told him to stop – that he was just a fellow servant. (Revelation)

Jesus was worshiped in the Bible – more than once. And those who worshiped him were never stopped, never told to stop, or prevented from doing so.

• When Thomas saw the scars on Jesus, he proclaimed to Jesus in worship, “My LORD and my God!” Jesus didn’t negate that worship. John 20.
• When the women met Jesus on their way to talk to the disciples and he greeted them, they fell at him feet and worshiped him. Jesus did not stop them. Matthew 28.
• When the men in the boat saw Jesus walking on the water, they were terrified. When Jesus (and the very wet Peter) got into the boat with them, the Bible says that the disciples worshiped Jesus and proclaimed him to be the Son of God. Matthew 14.
• When the Wise Men came to worship the child Jesus, they fell and worshiped him. God did not stop them. In fact God LED them there with the Star guiding them for that purpose!!
• When Jesus went into Jerusalem prior to being crucified, the people met him, waving palm branches and crying “Hosanna to the Son of David!” Hosanna means “I beg you to save us!” And by calling Jesus the Son of David, they acknowledge the Messianic reference to Jesus as the Christ

Now, tell me again that we are not to worship Jesus the Christ, and tell me why not and tell me according to the Scriptures.

 

[popsthebuilder]

The "discples" that you talk about who "followed his example" to a lesser degree also worshiped him - on more than one occasion.

But first,

Cornelius tried to worship Peter. Peter told him to stop that he (Peter) was only a man. (Acts)

John tried to worship the angel giving him the Revelation. The angel told him to stop – that he was just a fellow servant. (Revelation)

Jesus was worshiped in the Bible – more than once. And those who worshiped him were never stopped, never told to stop, or prevented from doing so.

• When Thomas saw the scars on Jesus, he proclaimed to Jesus in worship, “My LORD and my God!” Jesus didn’t negate that worship. John 20.
• When the women met Jesus on their way to talk to the disciples and he greeted them, they fell at him feet and worshiped him. Jesus did not stop them. Matthew 28.
• When the men in the boat saw Jesus walking on the water, they were terrified. When Jesus (and the very wet Peter) got into the boat with them, the Bible says that the disciples worshiped Jesus and proclaimed him to be the Son of God. Matthew 14.
• When the Wise Men came to worship the child Jesus, they fell and worshiped him. God did not stop them. In fact God LED them there with the Star guiding for that purpose!!
• When Jesus went into Jerusalem prior to being crucified, the people met him, waving palm branches and crying “Hosanna to the Son of David!” Hosanna means “I beg you to save us!” And by calling Jesus the Son of David, they acknowledge the Messianic reference to Jesus as the Christ

Now, tell me again that we are not to worship Jesus the Christ, and tell me why not and tell me according to the Scriptures.

You are quite familiar with the New Testament. I however, am not. I have read in at least one place in the bible that Jesus instructed to not worship him, but God. I also recall parts that say specifically not to worship any earthly form of God as it will lead to misdirected pride. These passages are few and far between, and are generally slightly confusing to most as they are seam to refute what you have been taught. Your memory of the books far outshines mine. And with that, I ask that you post these things as you have posted your others. This may not happen. I will do my best, but it will no doubt, take some time. Thanks.

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[popsthebuilder]

Romans 16:24-27

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[popsthebuilder]

Fate and Faith work beautifully together. Praise God.

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[popsthebuilder]

Mathew4:1-10

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[PreachTony]

I have read many ancient biblical texts. I currently read the New Testament, and Torah.
It's safe to say, in my personal opinion, that I comprehend these biblical writings quite well, due to my lack of confusion while reading. Thank you.

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I hate to say it, bud, but you are not proving that you understand things "quite well." In fact, you seem to be greatly confused, no matter how vehemently you claim not to be.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I feel that Zoara was the first real "church" of the Faith, and salvation of God. Indeed it was a refuge.

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[popsthebuilder]

Mathew 4:16

Testament that those who stand fast, through adversity will be the guides.

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[popsthebuilder]

Thesalonians3:1

It is a stance where when reality of life due to society, us too much to bear, reside alone to regain your sense of one.

This is important as it is related to Egyptian, and Buddhists faiths of old. These were partly the basis of the ability of the Jesus to be able to connect in one unity with existence itself, or creation itself. This, of course, Is a lesser form of God. Thank you.

Praise God.


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[Scarlett O.]

Mathew 4:16

Testament that those who stand fast, through adversity will be the guides.

Not really sure what you mean by that. Here's the whole thing in context of verse 12-16.

Now when Jesus heard that John had been put in prison, He departed to Galilee. And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is by the sea, in the regions of Zebulun and Naphtali, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, by the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles: the people who sat in darkness have seen a great light, and upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death Light has dawned."

Matthew is quoting Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 9:1-6 about the people in that area.

[1] They "sat in darkness". They suffered being "lightly esteemed by God" according to the Isaiah passage Matthew is quoting from and suffered much oppression from the Assyrians according to Isaiah and Old Testament history.

[2] They "have seen a great light and upon them...."L"ight has dawned". Isaiah went on to say that most famous of all prophecies about the Messiah that "For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

Matthew is saying in chapter 4 verse 16 that Jesus going to Galilee to minister there was a fulfillment of prophecy from Isaiah.

This says nothing about people enduring adversity guiding other people.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Thesalonians3:1

It is a stance where when reality of life due to society, us too much to bear, reside alone to regain your sense of one.

This is important as it is related to Egyptian, and Buddhists faiths of old. These were partly the basis of the ability of the Jesus to be able to connect in one unity with existence itself, or creation itself. This, of course, Is a lesser form of God. Thank you.

pops - do you just pull this out of your hat? I'd really like to know where you get this stuff.

This is a quote from the Apostle Paul to the church at Thessalonica telling that he desperately wanted to be there with them to help them. They were suffering from some persecutions, yet they remained faithful to Christ.

He was anxiety ridden about there welfare and when he "could stand it no more" decided to stop fighting to get there when he knew could not and to send Timothy instead.

Here's the whole quote, including the verse that you cited.

1 Thessalonians 2:17-20 - 3:1-3

But as for us, brothers, after we were forced to leave you for a short time (in person, not in heart), we greatly desired and made every effort to return and see you face to face. So we wanted to come to you—even I, Paul, time and again—but Satan hindered us. For who is our hope or joy or crown of boasting in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming? Is it not you? For you are our glory and joy!

Therefore, when we could no longer stand it, we thought it was better to be left alone in Athens. And we sent Timothy, our brother and God’s coworker in the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you concerning your faith, o that no one will be shaken by these persecutions. For you yourselves know that we are appointed to this.

Paul was not "residing alone" to regain his "sense of one".

He was residing in Athens after trying to get to that church in Thessalonica. He stopped trying and remained alone in Athens, but sent Timothy to help them.

This has nothing to do with Egypt, Bhudda, or a one-ness not is it the basis of Jesus being able to do anything.

"Alone" is not talking about solitude and regaining a connection to the universe.

 

[popsthebuilder]

pops - do you just pull this out of your hat? I'd really like to know where you get this stuff.

This is a quote from the Apostle Paul to the church at Thessalonica telling that he desperately wanted to be there with them to help them. They were suffering from some persecutions, yet they remained faithful to Christ.

He was anxiety ridden about there welfare and when he "could stand it no more" decided to stop fighting to get there when he knew could not and to send Timothy instead.

Here's the whole quote, including the verse that you cited.

1 Thessalonians 2:17-20 - 3:1-3


Paul was not "residing alone" to regain his "sense of one".

He was residing in Athens after trying to get to that church in Thessalonica. He stopped trying and remained alone in Athens, but sent Timothy to help them.

This has nothing to do with Egypt, Bhudda, or a one-ness not is it the basis of Jesus being able to do anything.

"Alone" is not talking about solitude and regaining a connection to the universe.

He was in the direction of God. Doing God's work. In doing this it would have dealt as if it was the utmost importance because it was. However, even when one is nearly pure and straight in direction, there very fervor will eventually expend the physical body and minds stress limits. Upon reaching this point, in no way to his destination, he had to rest, and re center for the cause of God's will.

Thank you.

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[popsthebuilder]

pops - do you just pull this out of your hat? I'd really like to know where you get this stuff.

This is a quote from the Apostle Paul to the church at Thessalonica telling that he desperately wanted to be there with them to help them. They were suffering from some persecutions, yet they remained faithful to Christ.

He was anxiety ridden about there welfare and when he "could stand it no more" decided to stop fighting to get there when he knew could not and to send Timothy instead.

Here's the whole quote, including the verse that you cited.

1 Thessalonians 2:17-20 - 3:1-3


Paul was not "residing alone" to regain his "sense of one".

He was residing in Athens after trying to get to that church in Thessalonica. He stopped trying and remained alone in Athens, but sent Timothy to help them.

This has nothing to do with Egypt, Bhudda, or a one-ness not is it the basis of Jesus being able to do anything.

"Alone" is not talking about solitude and regaining a connection to the universe.

Definitely not meaning alone in the Universe. Alone, Dom curruption in all forms.

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[PreachTony]

Thesalonians3:1

It is a stance where when reality of life due to society, us too much to bear, reside alone to regain your sense of one.

This is important as it is related to Egyptian, and Buddhists faiths of old. These were partly the basis of the ability of the Jesus to be able to connect in one unity with existence itself, or creation itself. This, of course, Is a lesser form of God. Thank you.

So you're saying that Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, the Creator of all things (John 1), required philosophies from Egypt (a biblical representation of sin) and Buddhism (a false religion) to attain a connection with existence and creation? Your argument is flawed in oh-so-many ways.

Jesus is an eternal part of the Godhead. He is one of the three that bear record in Heaven. He is the Word that was in the beginning, and He is the creator of all things. He does not require man-made philosophies in order to be in connection with all things in existence.

Then again, if I'm reading you right, you are making the statement that Jesus Christ is a lesser form of God, which is outright heresy. He is God, just as the Father is God and just as the Holy Ghost is God. Who are you to come onto a Baptist forum and try to discredit the clear plain teaching of scripture.

 

[Rebel]

It isn't that Christ is only capable through Jesus. It's that Jesus IS the Christ - the only Christ.

For Christ to be Christ - He has to bear the following attributes that describe "Christ" (anointed one; Messiah) in the Bible. Prophecies from the entire Old Testament - from the Torah, even, that you say that you know - all contain prophecy and descriptions of what the Christ will be.

• Virgin Birth (As early as Genesis 3)
• Sinless life
• God Incarnate
• Became sin for us as THE Atonement
• Great and terrible suffering on the cross and even his words spoken there
• Substitutionary death
• Resurrection
• Exalted coming in glory

The ONLY person to have ever fulfilled all of these descriptions of the Christ is Jesus, who IS the Christ. Mohammed did NOT fulfill these things. Neither has any mortal creature that false religions have been based upon.

Christ cannot "come through" anyone.

The Christ doesn't come through Jesus. The Christ IS Jesus.

Here is a link that lists so many of the descriptions of the Messiah/Christ (both meaning "Anointed One").

http://www.jewsforjesus.org/answers/prophecy/365-messianic-prophecies

You can take substitutionary death out of there as it was unknown until the 16th century.