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The rapture

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xlsdraw

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Why would the Lord go into explicit details with the Prophet Ezekiel in chapters 36-39 concerning the redemption of Israel; and chapters 40-48 concerning the Millennial Reign; if the Lord, who knows the end from the beginning, were not going to perform it.

I don't understand why so many Christians right off the multitude of prophecies in the Old Testament which all point to the redemption of Israel.
 

robycop3

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Even if I answered every one of your questions (and I have already answered several), you would still refuse to accept those answers as proof. Repeating the same points over and over doesn't change anything.
That's right. Preterism was false in Day One of its existence, & a bejillion excuses later, it's still just-as-false.
 

robycop3

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It does get tiresome. I'm about ready to give it a rest, and focus on conversations that don't just go in circles.
I shall continue to fight preterism & other false doctrines of faith/worship as I come across them, tiresome or not. It's a Christian D-U-T-Y.

And I believe we've SCRIPTURALLY established that the event we call the rapture will occur.
 

Lodic

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I shall continue to fight preterism & other false doctrines of faith/worship as I come across them, tiresome or not. It's a Christian D-U-T-Y.

And I believe we've SCRIPTURALLY established that the event we call the rapture will occur.
Neither "we", nor even "you" have proven by Scripture that the rapture is sound doctrine. Neither have you proven Preterism to be a false doctrine. Thank you for the reminder of my Christian duty to continue to fight these false eschatological doctrines, because God is not the author of confusion, but the false doctrines you promote can only lead to confusion at best. I'm sure I'll encounter you again in future threads regarding the "end times". Until then, take care.
 

Lodic

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Why would the Lord go into explicit details with the Prophet Ezekiel in chapters 36-39 concerning the redemption of Israel; and chapters 40-48 concerning the Millennial Reign; if the Lord, who knows the end from the beginning, were not going to perform it.

I don't understand why so many Christians right off the multitude of prophecies in the Old Testament which all point to the redemption of Israel.
The Scriptures do not point to the redemption of Physical Israel, as many suppose. Rather, they point to the redemption of Spiritual Israel. In Romans 8, Paul tells us who the spiritual children of God are - those who are in Christ, who are led by the Spirit. Paul reminds us that what the Law failed to do, God did.

In Romans 9, Paul goes on to explain that the "children of the Promise" are not children of the flesh, but of the Spirit. This is an extremely important topic, as Paul continues to discuss it in Romans 10 (salvation comes only through faith) and Romans 11 (a remnant will be saved by grace). Other Scriptures that show us prove the "True Jew" is Spiritual, not physical include Romans 2:28-29, Galatians 2:14-`5, Galatians 3:27, Galatians 6:15-16, Ephesians 2:11-14, and Philippians 3:3.

The theme of the Book of Hebrews is the superiority of the New Covenant to the Old Covenant. Hebrews 10 shows us that the Old Covenant is finished. There will not be a 3rd Temple; the animal sacrificial system and priests will not be reinstated. Why would they? Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Old Covenant system. Animal sacrifices were formerly required for atonement, but Jesus became our final Sacrifice.
 

robycop3

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Neither "we", nor even "you" have proven by Scripture that the rapture is sound doctrine. Neither have you proven Preterism to be a false doctrine. Thank you for the reminder of my Christian duty to continue to fight these false eschatological doctrines, because God is not the author of confusion, but the false doctrines you promote can only lead to confusion at best. I'm sure I'll encounter you again in future threads regarding the "end times". Until then, take care.
Actually, I HAVE-the rapture by Scripture, & the falsehood of preterism by a combo of Scripture & history. How have YOU countered? By presenting some man-made private & false interps of Scripture, reducing several passages to "figurative/symbolic" status, with no valid reason to do so. You've simply repeated the hooey of Gentry & several other pret quax. All of you have failed the great test of actual history vs. the man-made re-definitions of certain Scriptures.

That pret pig won't roller-skate.
 
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