The Restrainer

[OfLivingWaters]

1 Corinthians 1:28-31 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 He is the source of your life in Christ Jesus, whom God made our wisdom, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption; 31 therefore, as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.”

28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are,
Just as Mother Mary says , the Psalms and proverbs, God takes from lowly estates and exalts those chosen by Him to greatness, in Him.

29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God.
Just as mother Mary gave all glory for her blessing and exalting. Her Boast " Hence forth all generations shall call me blessed" is in the Lord!

30 He is the source of your life in Christ Jesus, whom God made our wisdom, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption;

God is our source of life in Christ Jesus, God made Wisdom in Christ , from Christ to all Born of Him , including His Chosen Mother wisdom is given. But since she is His first work of Christianity as Wisdom was His first work of Creation , the Fullness of Wisdom from Christ is to her cup and overflows to all, so forth and do on. Why , because it is of her flesh He became man and was brought forth.
All the Elect are full of the Wisdom of Christ, they are righteous in Christ, sanctified, REDEEMED! Form the Tree of Jacob to the grafted in, they are one house of Israel! Peace!

 

[robycop3]

I appreciate your comments, and I realize he wasn’t the last to finish off what they got started, but Vespasian. Also I don’t believe the mark of the beast is a physical thing but compare to the “mark of the Lord” in Deuteronomy 6:8. We see something similar in Revelation with the Lord’s sealed ones but I can’t think of the verse right now.

Sorry, M'am, but I have three different encyclopediae before me as well as the internet & some world history boox, & NOT ONE of the eschatological events are found as having already occurred in any of them!

The great pret escape from reality is reducing "inconvenient" Scriptures to "figurative/symbolic" status because they prove preterism false because the events they predict haven't happened yet. And people such as Gentry, Preston, etc. use this false doctrine to sell boox. TRUTH be dipped.

 

[robycop3]

Read Jesus' Olivet prophecy - he was clearly prophesying the destruction "before this generation has passed" which occurred as prophesied. It hadn't occurred when Paul was writing, so it was the next event on the prophetic horizon.

According to the NC writers, true Israel & true Jews are the believers in Christ, and are one redeemed people of God with believing Gentiles, NOT continuing unbelievers. The true Jerusalem is the heavenly city, NOT the earthly city. See Galatians 4, Hebrews 12, Rev. 3 & 21. The NC temple is Christ, built with living stones.

What the unbelieving European Jews are doing in Israel/Palestine is not the subject of Bible prophecy, except that is in absolute violation of the prophetic warnings.

Micah 2:1 Woe to those who plan iniquity, to those who plot evil on their beds!
At morning’s light they carry it out because it is in their power to do it.
2 They covet fields and seize them, and houses, and take them.
They defraud people of their homes, they rob them of their inheritance.

6:8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
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Suggest you closely study the meanings in English of the Greek genea. Plainly those events did NOT then occur. However, the "days of vengeance" did.

Plainly, a MUCH-GREATER punishment fell upon the Jews in 135-136 AD, which was, of course, a couple of generations AFTER the one alive while Jesus was here. That punishment was for murdering Jesus & for their continued rejection of Him as Messiah. This punishment culminated with the nazi holocaust, then God began to lift it.

While most Jews continue to reject Jesus as Messiah, their NATIONAL punishment is over. Obviously, same as the rest of us, if an individual Jew dies unsaved, he/she is condemned.

And GOD is certainly NOT through with literal, national Israel yet ! He said He's gonna make Judah & Israel one nation again, & make it great. They WILL come to believe in Jesus as Messiah & will no longer follow the Old Covenent. All that is right there in your own Bibles.

 

[robycop3]

The restrainer is Michael the prince of the heavenly angels. He is at present fighting against satan ( the prince of the air in who is in control of this the world) .

The Book of Revelation was written about future events, not past things to come which already happened it is not recapping what happened but what is to be. It does affirm what past prophets have said that still needs to on fold though)

Lucifer's fall and casting out already happened. He was already cast out of the Kingdom of heaven , he is now being cast down from the celestial bodies or SPACE. He has, up to the point been able to ascend to the GATES of the the Kingdom of Heaven. The heavens he will NOW be cast down from is from the heavens above our heads as space. He will at that point be inhabit fully, the body of a man. He will not be able to even leave this earth at that point. No more flying to the gates of heaven to accuse the saints before the throne of God.

Even the abilities of men will be no more, concerning his technology up in space. When satan is cast down to the earth even what men have built will too be cast down!
Obadiah 1:3-5
The Destruction of Edom
…3The pride of your heart has deceived you—O dwellers in the clefts of the rocks whose habitation is the heights, who say in your heart, ‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’ 4Though you soar like the eagle and make your nest among the stars, even from there I will bring you down,” declares the LORD. 5“If thieves came to you, if robbers by night—oh, how you will be ruined—would they not steal only what they wanted? If grape pickers came to you, would they not leave some gleanings?…

The Edom Jew has now even accomplished to build and accomplish in the space race. The Edom Jews, which are the offspring of Esau will be cut off. They are always plotting against their brother Jacob (Israel) it is only the remnant of Jacob who will be saved. When God says "All the House of Israel will be saved" He is speaking in coded message and is saying the HOUSE OF JACOB. Christ is of the Lineage of Jacob through His Chosen Mother Mary. Therefore, she is of the lineage of David and is why Christ is called the Son of David. Now you know why Christ corrected those who called Him Son of David as though He is David's son.
Matthew 22:41-44 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
The Question about David’s Son
41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question, 42 saying, “What do you think of the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him, “The son of David.” 43 He said to them, “How is it then that David, inspired by the Spirit, calls him Lord, saying,

44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord,
Sit at my right hand,
till I put thy enemies under thy feet’?


To be continued...........

Sorry, but Satan was cast down to earth long ago, as is quite-evident by the prevalence of sin now.

The Edomites (Idumeans) were "extinct" long ago. There are no "Edomite" Jews. The Palestinians are the descendants of the people, including some Philistines, whom Hadrian gave the Jews' land in 135-136 AD. They still claim they've had that land for some 1900 years, while the Jews rightly say GOD promised it to THEM, long before that. Now, who is right - Hadrian, or GOD ?

 

[robycop3]

MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE RANCH......

The "restrainer" is the HOLY SPIRIT. Michael was never given such control of earthly affairs.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE RANCH......

The "restrainer" is the HOLY SPIRIT. Michael was never given such control of earthly affairs.

Michael is in God's Holy Spirit ,. The revelation is clear God gave the prince of the heavenly host the authority over satan to restrain him. You can call the scriptures a lie all you want. you're just mad because you do not see what I see.You're just being deliberate in your blindness. That is a totally different level of disobedience toward God. The revelation is clear.
Rev.1
Prologue

1This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near.

It is clear: THOSE THINGS WHICH MUST SOON COME TO PASS. Are you calling the Alpha and the Omega from whom this Beloved prophet John received the REVELATION from a liar? You do not OBEY, you should as the introduction of this prophecy clearly says one is Blessed to do so. Michael is the Restrainer. And clearly 'WHAT MUST SOON COME TO PASS, not speaking of that which already happened. But as I said supports what other prophets said that must still come to pass.
Daniel 12:1-13
Michael’s Deliverance and the End Times
1At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress such as never has occurred from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens,a and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

4But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

5Then I, Daniel, looked and saw two others standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. 6One of them said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long until the fulfillment of these wonders?”

Revelation 12 and Daniel 12 align. Whatever to your worldly opinion. The worldly never fulfill the Righteous will of God to begin with.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Sorry, but Satan was cast down to earth long ago, as is quite-evident by the prevalence of sin now.

The Edomites (Idumeans) were "extinct" long ago. There are no "Edomite" Jews. The Palestinians are the descendants of the people, including some Philistines, whom Hadrian gave the Jews' land in 135-136 AD. They still claim they've had that land for some 1900 years, while the Jews rightly say GOD promised it to THEM, long before that. Now, who is right - Hadrian, or GOD ?

NOOOOO, Palestinians were migrant people from various Arab nations that were made to settle in what was called Philistine renamed Palestine. The Edom Jew is still ,it is clear, God can not be casting down nest in the sky back then . To this day that celestial event has yet to happen in which NOW 1/3 of the stars of heaven will fall to earth. Which will throw down all the space craft floating around up in space. You sound like you have been eating the Red Stew of the Edom "RED" Jew. Who rejects all truth too.

There will be a pole shift and many heavenly bodies will fall onto the earth..
Rev.6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

This is BEFORE Christ's second coming, the 7th seal and seventh Trumpet herald in His return. Rev. 6 are events before that. Those who retreat in the earth will have the Mark of the Beast. The sixth seal is a PAUSE in the tribulation events . It is the WRATH of the Lamb Not the return of the Lion of Judah with the resurrection and transforming of those who will remain until His return. And be snatched up to meet the angels and the resurrected from the earth. The Elect portion who does not fall asleep to the earth will be instantly transformed like the Blessed Mother experienced at her assumption. In the scriptures is PROOF of her assumption .And Paul and all the apostles saw her assumption at Christ's ascension. That is how Paul knows we shall not all fall asleep to the earth. Mary is the FIRST of the NC to be what has become known as- RAPTURED.

 

[robycop3]

Michael is in God's Holy Spirit ,. The revelation is clear God gave the prince of the heavenly host the authority over satan to restrain him. You can call the scriptures a lie all you want. you're just mad because you do not see what I see.You're just being deliberate in your blindness. That is a totally different level of disobedience toward God. The revelation is clear.
Rev.1
Prologue

1This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near.

It is clear: THOSE THINGS WHICH MUST SOON COME TO PASS. Are you calling the Alpha and the Omega from whom this Beloved prophet John received the REVELATION from a liar? You do not OBEY, you should as the introduction of this prophecy clearly says one is Blessed to do so. Michael is the Restrainer. And clearly 'WHAT MUST SOON COME TO PASS, not speaking of that which already happened. But as I said supports what other prophets said that must still come to pass.
Daniel 12:1-13
Michael’s Deliverance and the End Times
1At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress such as never has occurred from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens,a and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

4But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

5Then I, Daniel, looked and saw two others standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. 6One of them said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long until the fulfillment of these wonders?”

Revelation 12 and Daniel 12 align. Whatever to your worldly opinion. The worldly never fulfill the Righteous will of God to begin with.

I'm not a bit mad. In fact, i'm almost amused at your goofy delusions. Michael is an ARCHANGEL. Were he God, he would not have said "The Lord rebuke you, Satan" nor would daniel referred to him as "one of the chief princes".

No, M'am, I don't see what you see, which are man-made delusions & misinterps of some Scriptures. And your mis-titling of Michael is almost blasphemy,

 

[robycop3]

NOOOOO, Palestinians were migrant people from various Arab nations that were made to settle in what was called Philistine renamed Palestine. The Edom Jew is still ,it is clear, God can not be casting down nest in the sky back then . To this day that celestial event has yet to happen in which NOW 1/3 of the stars of heaven will fall to earth. Which will throw down all the space craft floating around up in space. You sound like you have been eating the Red Stew of the Edom "RED" Jew. Who rejects all truth too.

There will be a pole shift and many heavenly bodies will fall onto the earth..
Rev.6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

This is BEFORE Christ's second coming, the 7th seal and seventh Trumpet herald in His return. Rev. 6 are events before that. Those who retreat in the earth will have the Mark of the Beast. The sixth seal is a PAUSE in the tribulation events . It is the WRATH of the Lamb Not the return of the Lion of Judah with the resurrection and transforming of those who will remain until His return. And be snatched up to meet the angels and the resurrected from the earth. The Elect portion who does not fall asleep to the earth will be instantly transformed like the Blessed Mother experienced at her assumption. In the scriptures is PROOF of her assumption .And Paul and all the apostles saw her assumption at Christ's ascension. That is how Paul knows we shall not all fall asleep to the earth. Mary is the FIRST of the NC to be what has become known as- RAPTURED.

YEESSSS, the original Pals included Philistines. Your history is 'WAY off. 'tis likely I have far-more knowledge of history and Scripture than you, as I'm likely a lot older. I'm age 71 & have studied history since I was a boy.

"Palestinian" is Latin for "Philistine", and they & Israel have been mostly enemies since the days of the Judges. 'Tis no marvel they don't like each other now. The Edomites(Idumeans) were eventually eaten up by the Romans

And it's impossible for a star to fall onto the earth. Stars are much-larger than earth! But since time immemorial, METEORS have been called "falling stars".

Lotsa your stuff suspiciously seems like some junk from the Jabroney False Witlesses.

But the HOLY SPIRIT is the "restrainer".

 

[OfLivingWaters]

I'm not a bit mad. In fact, i'm almost amused at your goofy delusions. Michael is an ARCHANGEL. Were he God, he would not have said "The Lord rebuke you, Satan" nor would daniel referred to him as "one of the chief princes".

No, M'am, I don't see what you see, which are man-made delusions & misinterps of some Scriptures. And your mis-titling of Michael is almost blasphemy,

No one said he is God or that his POWER was not from God. The Restrainer means that at the appropriate time Michael will cast him down from being able to go before the the gates of the heavenly kingdom concerning place. When that casting down happens satan will fully enter his chosen MAN OF SIN and that is when he will be revealed. Questions: is Michael called the prince of the heavenly angels by Christ, yes or no? Is Michael Holy? If he is Holy is he part of God's holy Spirit? If within that holy Spirit does he serve by God's power given Him? Who said he was a solo agent?

AGAIN : In the Holy Spirit Michael is the Restrainer who is at present wrestling with satan until the appointed hour of his being cast down and entering a man. The misinterps are by you.

Let me ask, by what authority do you preach, your own or by the authority of the Holy Spirit? Do you have a designated position according to the gifts given?

What seems to be the problem with the shearing locust is....they question God given roles appointed to both men and angels of heaven. They deny any given authority. They seem to think that if one says :Michale is the Restrainer, that means that he is not so according to God's designated role given him. The Holy Spirit is not going to be removed from the world , the Holy Spirit will be in dwelling for the Elect. Do you think the Holy spirit is removed from the earth before the tribulation? Are you pre -trib or middle concerning snatching up? Or are you end trib? If end trib then obviously I am right. And that regardless of you stance. Because it is clear regardless the Holy Spirit is here to the consumption of the world according to scripture alone. Michael is the restrainer whether you like it or not. The appropriate time is upon us because the end time Elect are coming into the fullness of number. Then Michael will let him go and he (satan) will then enter his chosen man.

The restrainer simply means he Michael has not been able to let him be REVEALED YET ( The Man of Sin)
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8
The Man of Lawlessness
…6And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.…
Rev.12:
7Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels.…


It is clear that the work of the lawless one has been going on. War has been going on. However, the lawless one has not yet been reveal as a man who is actually satan, like Christ is God.

The Holy Spirit is not being removed:
Matthew 28:19-20
The Great Commission
…19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

we know the end of the age is the end of the age of sin and the consumption of the world . This will make way for the New Earth.that means the Holy Spirit is here within the Elect to the end of the world and then beyond eternally. .
The Restrainer is Michael appointed by God to do so until he is removed from restraining satan from become a man.

there have been many anti Christ but he is literally satan himself. satan too has a chosen people and a beloved headsman to whom of his lineage he has given his own , power authority and throne. Rev.13

 

[robycop3]

No one said he is God or that his POWER was not from God. The Restrainer means that at the appropriate time Michael will cast him down from being able to go before the the gates of the heavenly kingdom concerning place. When that casting down happens satan will fully enter his chosen MAN OF SIN and that is when he will be revealed. Questions: is Michael called the prince of the heavenly angels by Christ, yes or no? Is Michael Holy? If he is Holy is he part of God's holy Spirit? If within that holy Spirit does he serve by God's power given Him? Who said he was a solo agent?

AGAIN : In the Holy Spirit Michael is the Restrainer who is at present wrestling with satan until the appointed hour of his being cast down and entering a man. The misinterps are by you.

Let me ask, by what authority do you preach, your own or by the authority of the Holy Spirit? Do you have a designated position according to the gifts given?

What seems to be the problem with the shearing locust is....they question God given roles appointed to both men and angels of heaven. They deny any given authority. They seem to think that if one says :Michale is the Restrainer, that means that he is not so according to God's designated role given him. The Holy Spirit is not going to be removed from the world , the Holy Spirit will be in dwelling for the Elect. Do you think the Holy spirit is removed from the earth before the tribulation? Are you pre -trib or middle concerning snatching up? Or are you end trib? If end trib then obviously I am right. And that regardless of you stance. Because it is clear regardless the Holy Spirit is here to the consumption of the world according to scripture alone. Michael is the restrainer whether you like it or not. The appropriate time is upon us because the end time Elect are coming into the fullness of number. Then Michael will let him go and he (satan) will then enter his chosen man.

The restrainer simply means he Michael has not been able to let him be REVEALED YET ( The Man of Sin)
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8
The Man of Lawlessness
…6And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.…
Rev.12:
7Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels.…


It is clear that the work of the lawless one has been going on. War has been going on. However, the lawless one has not yet been reveal as a man who is actually satan, like Christ is God.

The Holy Spirit is not being removed:
Matthew 28:19-20
The Great Commission
…19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

we know the end of the age is the end of the age of sin and the consumption of the world . This will make way for the New Earth.that means the Holy Spirit is here within the Elect to the end of the world and then beyond eternally. .
The Restrainer is Michael appointed by God to do so until he is removed from restraining satan from become a man.

there have been many anti Christ but he is literally satan himself. satan too has a chosen people and a beloved headsman to whom of his lineage he has given his own , power authority and throne. Rev.13

Satan was cast down long ago! he'd already sinned before man was made. He had sinned before he appeared to Eve as ole Sneaky Snake.

And Michael has nothing to do with restraining the birth & coming of the "beast". For a long time, one of his duties was not allowing the Jews to be exterminated, while allowing them to be severely punished.

Some cult is filling your head with silliness !

 

[OfLivingWaters]

YEESSSS, the original Pals included Philistines. Your history is 'WAY off. 'tis likely I have far-more knowledge of history and Scripture than you, as I'm likely a lot older. I'm age 71 & have studied history since I was a boy.

"Palestinian" is Latin for "Philistine", and they & Israel have been mostly enemies since the days of the Judges. 'Tis no marvel they don't like each other now. The Edomites(Idumeans) were eventually eaten up by the Romans

And it's impossible for a star to fall onto the earth. Stars are much-larger than earth! But since time immemorial, METEORS have been called "falling stars".

Lotsa your stuff suspiciously seems like some junk from the Jabroney False Witlesses.

But the HOLY SPIRIT is the "restrainer".

Obviously John is speaking about heavenly bodies which burn , and appear like stars. Does that mean you do not believe in the scriptures?
The First Four Trumpets
…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

Many have said this is a nuclear bomb. The point is either you are an angry man who likes thumbing your nose at prophecy or you have no concept of descriptive imagery concerning prophecy. you sound like the atheist.

Whatever your court jester approach to scripture, it is clear you know nothing about it. I'll go with God without question.
Carry on!

As for Palestinian anything, what does that have to do with what scripture clearly reveals about a certain group of so called "Jews"?
Why are you offend by prophecy showing the fate of a group of unholy people?

As I said Carry On! I will get the popcorn and read your entertainment in denial. Prophecy marches on God's will be done! Praying for Jacob's House ,ISRAEL- May God Prevail!

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Satan was cast down long ago! he'd already sinned before man was made. He had sinned before he appeared to Eve as ole Sneaky Snake.

And Michael has nothing to do with restraining the birth & coming of the "beast". For a long time, one of his duties was not allowing the Jews to be exterminated, while allowing them to be severely punished.

Some cult is filling your head with silliness !

No kidding (concerning satan having been cast down from the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN). I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. I think I forget to not assume that people are actually intelligent. Carry On!

 

[robycop3]

Obviously John is speaking about heavenly bodies which burn , and appear like stars. Does that mean you do not believe in the scriptures?
The First Four Trumpets
…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

Many have said this is a nuclear bomb. The point is either you are an angry man who likes thumbing your nose at prophecy or you have no concept of descriptive imagery concerning prophecy. you sound like the atheist.

Whatever your court jester approach to scripture, it is clear you know nothing about it. I'll go with God without question.
Carry on!

As for Palestinian anything, what does that have to do with what scripture clearly reveals about a certain group of so called "Jews"?
Why are you offend by prophecy showing the fate of a group of unholy people?

As I said Carry On! I will get the popcorn and read your entertainment in denial. Prophecy marches on God's will be done! Praying for Jacob's House ,ISRAEL- May God Prevail!

You really need to drop the garbage some cult is feeding you. I believe Scripture, not some man's private interps of it. A pox upon them! They're leading gullible people like you astray.

The Jews have a long, unbroken history. You may call them "Edomites" or some other silliness, but these are the descendants of the same people from whom Jesus was born as a man, and whom He pronounced some punishments upon. Again, you don't know world history too well.

No, it won't be a nuke. It might very will be the approach of another planet to earth, which could cause all the plagues of Revelation, including the darkening of the sun & moon by dust & smoke. And all the planets in the solar system are surrounded by many small rocks orbiting them. If another planet from outside the solar system were to approach us, it'd cause quite a few meteors to fall.

 

[robycop3]

No kidding (concerning satan having been cast down from the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN). I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. I think I forget to not assume that people are actually intelligent. Carry On!

Seems the "carrying on" is all on YOUR part with the goofiness your cult has taught you. Satan has been here longer than man. He'd already fallen when he appeared to Eve as Sneaky Snake.

And where do ya think all the present sin somes from? Isn't Satan the daddy of it all ?

 

[OfLivingWaters]

You really need to drop the garbage some cult is feeding you. I believe Scripture, not some man's private interps of it. A pox upon them! They're leading gullible people like you astray.

The Jews have a long, unbroken history. You may call them "Edomites" or some other silliness, but these are the descendants of the same people from whom Jesus was born as a man, and whom He pronounced some punishments upon. Again, you don't know world history too well.

No, it won't be a nuke. It might very will be the approach of another planet to earth, which could cause all the plagues of Revelation, including the darkening of the sun & moon by dust & smoke. And all the planets in the solar system are surrounded by many small rocks orbiting them. If another planet from outside the solar system were to approach us, it'd cause quite a few meteors to fall.

Excuse me sir, I am not calling ALL Jews Edomites and anyone with any basic reading skills knows that is not what I said. so who is the LIAR? Regardless of your ignorance of scripture the covenant is kept through Jacobs line . Not according to me but according to God. Fancy me whatever you want. It is clear I do not speak according to my OWN authority but Christ's (MY JEWISH LORD). That is evident in the simple fact that I do not call God a liar! Yes Jesus is born a Jew, and the first to believe are JEWS His Mother and apostles and all the elders I SERVE! But you should know, it is Paul who said: "ONE IS A JEW WHEN HE IS INWARDLY" and that is the SEAL of CHRIST upon the soul. So , babble on all you want, makes NO DIFFERENCE to the Truth! And for sure PERSONAL OPINION does not wash away the TRUTH OF THE SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHETS. A person who is part of a cult can not do the "CONFESSING" of 1 John 4 which proves that one has the spirit of God within. And the First to do the CONFESSING were Gabriel an ANGEL / Messenger of God and Elizabeth cousin to MOTHER MARY! Can you say what they said ? IT IS SCRIPTURE ALONE!

Please .......type their words out if you can.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

You really need to drop the garbage some cult is feeding you. I believe Scripture, not some man's private interps of it. A pox upon them! They're leading gullible people like you astray.

The Jews have a long, unbroken history. You may call them "Edomites" or some other silliness, but these are the descendants of the same people from whom Jesus was born as a man, and whom He pronounced some punishments upon. Again, you don't know world history too well.

No, it won't be a nuke. It might very will be the approach of another planet to earth, which could cause all the plagues of Revelation, including the darkening of the sun & moon by dust & smoke. And all the planets in the solar system are surrounded by many small rocks orbiting them. If another planet from outside the solar system were to approach us, it'd cause quite a few meteors to fall.

And I never said it would be a nuke , I said some believe this to be a nuke. World History I know well just not your version of it. Besides, that is not the CRUX of this conversation PROPHECY is. I love how ,now you presume to teach me something about approaching planets and meteors and this..... after you denied the imagery conveyed by the Beloved Apostle John. IRONIC!

You tell me "STARS CAN NOT FALL OR EXPLODE" which I never said they could. Yet express EXACTLY what I said. And still you can not deny that John described these celestial events as stars burning and falling to earth JUST AS I SAID hello!......is anyone listening to this happy horse pucky?.

And satan does have access to the universe therefore can , when he is NOW CAST DOWN FROM EVEN BEING ABLE TO ASCEND TO THERE , bring down with him 1/3 of celestial bodies because GOD SAID SO THROUGH HIS PROPHETS. Considering the ever expanding universe 1/3 is peanuts based on mass.

And no matter how you turn it, THE SCRIPTURES CLEARLY STATE A CATACLYSMIC EVENT AND/OR EVENTS are coming upon us THAT ARE CELESTIAL get over it. If you can not accept that, take it up with THE CREATOR!

The only silly thing being spoken here is by you ,who in one breath speak denial of those events while professing how it would happen???? and I am influenced by CULT THINKING. If anything I am concise and solid and DO NOT QUESTION WHAT THE PROPHETS ARE SAYING.

 

[robycop3]

You get sillier as you go. There are no Edomites any more. God said He'd end them, & He did. They're gone now, part of history, not still here under some other name.

Modern Israel is a JEWISH nation, while the Palestinians are mostly various Ishmaelites, and also with Philistine blood. They're old enemies of the jews, & will continue to be.

And I don't begin to deny there is a great series of cataclysms coming, all parts of the "great tribulation". However, there won't be any real "falling stars". They'll be METEORS. Earth could fall into a star,(but won't) but not vice versa.

And Satan was cast down to earth long ago.

1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

 

[Covenanter]

You really need to drop the garbage some cult is feeding you. I believe Scripture, not some man's private interps of it. A pox upon them! They're leading gullible people like you astray.

The Jews have a long, unbroken history. You may call them "Edomites" or some other silliness, but these are the descendants of the same people from whom Jesus was born as a man, and whom He pronounced some punishments upon. Again, you don't know world history too well.

No, it won't be a nuke. It might very will be the approach of another planet to earth, which could cause all the plagues of Revelation, including the darkening of the sun & moon by dust & smoke. And all the planets in the solar system are surrounded by many small rocks orbiting them. If another planet from outside the solar system were to approach us, it'd cause quite a few meteors to fall.

Excuse me sir, I am not calling ALL Jews Edomites and anyone with any basic reading skills knows that is not what I said. so who is the LIAR? Regardless of your ignorance of scripture the covenant is kept through Jacobs line . Not according to me but according to God. Fancy me whatever you want. It is clear I do not speak according to my OWN authority but Christ's (MY JEWISH LORD). That is evident in the simple fact that I do not call God a liar! Yes Jesus is born a Jew, and the first to believe are JEWS His Mother and apostles and all the elders I SERVE! But you should know, it is Paul who said: "ONE IS A JEW WHEN HE IS INWARDLY" and that is the SEAL of CHRIST upon the soul. So , babble on all you want, makes NO DIFFERENCE to the Truth! And for sure PERSONAL OPINION does not wash away the TRUTH OF THE SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHETS. A person who is part of a cult can not do the "CONFESSING" of 1 John 4 which proves that one has the spirit of God within. And the First to do the CONFESSING were Gabriel an ANGEL / Messenger of God and Elizabeth cousin to MOTHER MARY! Can you say what they said ? IT IS SCRIPTURE ALONE!

Please .......type their words out if you can.

Who are true Jews?

What did John say to them?

Mat. 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
​

And what did Jesus say?

John 8:39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[fn] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”​

Are the people claiming to be Jews, Biblical Jews by Jesus' teaching?

 

[robycop3]

Who are true Jews?

What did John say to them?

Mat. 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
​

And what did Jesus say?

John 8:39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[fn] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”​

Are the people claiming to be Jews, Biblical Jews by Jesus' teaching?

No, but they are RACIAL Jews, physical descendants of Abe, Jake, & Jude by birth.

And, of course, to be saved, a Jew must do the same as anyone else.

And thru Paul, God also said in Romans 11 that He will readily graft the jews back onto their own "olive tree" if they cease their unbelief.

And let us remember God also said He's gonna make Israel & Judah one nation again, & make them great.