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The Simplicity of the Gospel

MB

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Milk and solid meat can ONLY be received by saved persons!
Not True everyone can understand the milk of the word.
1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
MB1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
 

Yeshua1

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Not True everyone can understand the milk of the word.
1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
MB1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
they were still saved though, as those who do not have the Holy Spirit cannot receive the word of God!
 

MB

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they were still saved though, as those who do not have the Holy Spirit cannot receive the word of God!
Not true the Gentiles can hear the gospel and they will.
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
MB
 

Van

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I have. many times, paul was speaking there to babes in Christ, who were acting as if still unsaved!
Yet another avoidance of the question, another deflection, another mind boggling behavior untethered from truth. Why did Paul speak "as to men of flesh" using spiritual milk, if men of flesh could not understand spiritual milk?

Note was speaking as to men of flesh, and this is denied over and over and over and over. 1 Corinthians 3:1-3
 

Reformed1689

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Ladies and Gentlemen, post #49 by an advocate of Calvinism, now either claims, total spiritual inability is not a doctrine of Calvinism, or "men of flesh" are not unregenerate lost people.

In any case, the question was once again not answered,
Who said, men of flesh cannot understand spiritual milk? Men of flesh can understand right from wrong. Is that not spiritual? Men of flesh can know there is a God. Is that not spiritual? All you have demonstrated in this post is you do not know what Calvinism actually proclaims when we say total inability. Total inability to what Van? It is a total inability to choose righteousness, to choose God.

But regarding 1 Cor. 3. They are acting AS men of the flesh. It does not say they ARE men of the flesh now does it? This is your fatal flaw. You get so fixated on one word that you blow everything else up to prop up your bogus theology.
 

Van

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LOL, yet another obvious avoidance of the question. "Acting as men of the flesh" is substituted for "speaking as to men of flesh." Good golly Miss Molly.
 

Yeshua1

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LOL, yet another obvious avoidance of the question. "Acting as men of the flesh" is substituted for "speaking as to men of flesh." Good golly Miss Molly.
Who are the natural man that Paul states cannot receive the things of God then? Are they not sinners not saved, as devoid of the holy spirit to bring them Illumination?
 

Van

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Who are the natural man that Paul states cannot receive the things of God then? Are they not sinners not saved, as devoid of the holy spirit to bring them Illumination?
Asked and answered at least a dozen times, men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
 

Yeshua1

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Asked and answered at least a dozen times, men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
Unless the Holy Spirit Himself regenerates a lost sinner, they shall never understand in a saving sense the things of God in the scriptures!
 

MB

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Unless the Holy Spirit Himself regenerates a lost sinner, they shall never understand in a saving sense the things of God in the scriptures!
Act_11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
What you willfully deny is that the Salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles and repentance has been granted Them.
Where does scripture ever say that the Holy Spirit regenerates any one?
MB
 
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Yeshua1

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Act_11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
What you willfully deny is that the Salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles and repentance has been granted Them.
Where does scripture ever say that the Holy Spirit regenerates any one?
MB
It states that God Grants new minds and hearts!
 

Van

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Unless the Holy Spirit Himself regenerates a lost sinner, they shall never understand in a saving sense the things of God in the scriptures!
Yet another bogus claim based on man made doctrine rather than any scripture., 1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another bogus claim based on man made doctrine rather than any scripture., 1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
Paul states that natural man cannot receive the things that are spiritual, and trust his view more than yours!
 

Van

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Paul states that natural man cannot receive the things that are spiritual, and trust his view more than yours!
Yet another regurgitation of nonsense, the issue is what does "the things" mean, whether "all the things" or some (spiritual solid food) things. Deflection on display.
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another regurgitation of nonsense, the issue is what does "the things" mean, whether "all the things" or some (spiritual solid food) things. Deflection on display.
Interesting that the one teaching "Bogus Theology", as per you, was an inspired Apostle!
 

Van

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Interesting that the one teaching "Bogus Theology", as per you, was an inspired Apostle!
Yet another false assertion with no reference. This is all they have folks, deny and deflect.

1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another false assertion with no reference. This is all they have folks, deny and deflect.

1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
Paul address natural men, lost sinners, men of flesh, as babes in Christ, and the mature in Christ!
 

Van

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Paul address natural men, lost sinners, men of flesh, as babes in Christ, and the mature in Christ!

The issue is why did Paul speak as to unregenerate men of flesh using spiritual milk is they could not understand it?

1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
 

Reformed1689

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The issue is why did Paul speak as to unregenerate men of flesh using spiritual milk is they could not understand it?

1 Cor. 3:1-3 teaches unregenerate men of flesh can understand spiritual milk.

Men of flesh and the natural man are lost unregenerate sinners who have the limited spiritual ability to understand and respond to "spiritual milk" which includes the elementary things of the gospel. "The things" (1 Cor. 2:14) contextually refers to spiritual solid food (meat).
Are you all still really talking about this?
 
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