The Soul, the Aeolian Body, Death, Mistranslation of the Word Spirit, Identity of the Airflow of God

[HankD]

The teaching of the trinity is a false teaching promulgated by the Roman church, which is why the trinitarian verses either do not exist in early manuscripts, or are quoted by early believers in its original way, "in my name", which correlates with all scriptures to do all things in the name of Yeshuah alone.... because these forgeries serve a lie concerning the trinity. This is why it is important to understand why the word "spirit" is a mistranslation, and instead, the word "airflow" should now be used in English, to convey the precise meaning conveyed by the authors, which in turn helps us understand the true identity of the set-apart airflow, which are angels.

I understand but disagree with your definition of "airflow".

 

[loDebar]

Soul and airflow are two different things.

excuse me, what is lifted up here?

 

[teknonoftheos]

I understand but disagree with your definition of "airflow".

Well, as controversial and as contrary to the belief of the many, what I just told you is the actual truth, which is well studied, well supported by scripture, and with manuscript evidence. But, believe, or do not believe, the choice is yours.

 

[HankD]

Hank, The theology is of a Modern Liberal Jew, no resurrection, no soul, etc.

teknonoftheos did not respond to my inquiry as to his affiliation with the Hebrew Roots (HR) movement.

They are one of the remnants of the World Tomorrow Armstrong Radio Church of God.

Don't know he didn't say but maybe.

The HR say we must live as Jesus lived and keep HaTorah.

 

[HankD]

Well, as controversial and as contrary to the belief of the many, what I just told you is the actual truth, which is well studied, well supported by scripture, and with manuscript evidence. But, believe, or do not believe, the choice is yours.

I hear you. Just trying to understand your point of view for everyone's edification.

 

[HankD]

teknonoftheos should believers in God who call themselves Christian keep the Law, the whole Law, all the mitvouth - reportedly at least 613?

 

[loDebar]

teknonoftheos,

would you share in the importance of yom kippur?

 

[teknonoftheos]

teknonoftheos should believers in God who call themselves Christian keep the Law, the whole Law, all the mitvouth - reportedly at least 613?

Yes, although differently in the new covenant, because there was a change in priesthood when Yeshuah became high priest, where one example of a difference in how Torah is obeyed differently are the festivals and the Shabbat, where the requirement to observe these set-apart days is fulfilled by observing the reality they foreshadowed, such as,

Fulfilling the Passover through the Messiah, since he became the literal passover lamb.Fulfilling First Fruits through Yeshuah, since he was resurrected on First Fruits. This is a spring festival that was fulfilled in the first coming of Yeshuah.
Fulfilling the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) by receiving the set-apart airflow, since the body is now the new place where God has chosen to place his name, for worship. This is a spring festival that was fulfilled in the first coming of Yeshuah.
Fulfilling the Festival of Trumpets through the second coming of Yeshuah, where the seven trumpets of Revelation will be blasted beginning in Tishri 1, in fulfillment of the festival.
Fulfilling the Day of Atonement in Tishri 10 through the second coming of Yeshuah, where the dead are raised in Yeshuah and are transformed into new bodies.
Fulfilling the Feast of Tabernacles in Tishri 15 through the second coming of Yeshuah, where the seven bowls of wrath of Revelation are poured for seven days, for aside from living in tabernacles, the festival also required the pouring of wine on the altar each day for seven days as a liquid alcoholic offering.
And finally, fulfilling the Shabbat by entering the thousand year rest of Yeshuah, which is what the seventh day foreshadowed, the last one thousand years of the full seven thousand years for this heaven and earth.

And this is why according to Paul, it no longer matters to observe these festivals, not because the requirement to observe them has been nullified, because "until heaven and earth passes, not one jot or one tittle will fall from the Law until everything is accomplished", but because the way these festivals are observed in the new covenant has changed, through the realities found in Yeshuah that each festival foreshadowed. And once all festivals and also the Shabbat are fulfilled, which will be at the completion of the last one thousand years of this heaven and earth, then the entire Law will be fulfilled, and it shall pass, along with this heaven and earth.

 

[teknonoftheos]

teknonoftheos did not respond to my inquiry as to his affiliation with the Hebrew Roots (HR) movement.

They are one of the remnants of the World Tomorrow Armstrong Radio Church of God.

Don't know he didn't say but maybe.

The HR say we must live as Jesus lived and keep HaTorah.

I am not associated with them. In my blog you will see that I have very unique teachings that I would dare say not even they possess, but I am not sure exactly, because I do not know what exactly they teach. Although I have not yet received the anointing, I believe I am being lead to a unique calling in my life, which will soon be revealed to me once I receive the anointing, because of all the knowledge God has granted me to understand. I moved to Colombia precisely to begin the work that God has put into my heart to do, to start with helping the poor there.

 

[Walter]

I am not associated with them. In my blog you will see that I have very unique teachings that I would dare say not even they possess, but I am not sure exactly, because I do not know what exactly they teach. Although I have not yet received the anointing, I believe I am being lead to a unique calling in my life, which will soon be revealed to me once I receive the anointing, because of all the knowledge God has granted me to understand. I moved to Colombia precisely to begin the work that God has put into my heart to do, to start with helping the poor there.

Obviously you reject the Trinity you say the evil Catholics are responsible for. Of course, non-Catholics denying the Holy Trinity is nothing new.

Is there a body of true believers (a remnant perhaps) you affiliate with or is God using you to bring that to fruition?

 

[HankD]

I am not associated with them. In my blog you will see that I have very unique teachings that I would dare say not even they possess, but I am not sure exactly, because I do not know what exactly they teach. Although I have not yet received the anointing, I believe I am being lead to a unique calling in my life, which will soon be revealed to me once I receive the anointing, because of all the knowledge God has granted me to understand. I moved to Colombia precisely to begin the work that God has put into my heart to do, to start with helping the poor there.

Thank you teknonoftheos, you have quite an unusual presentation.

Though I can't agree with you I am interested in what you have to say.

Keep us informed as to your calling once you know what it is, but be forewarned you will receive a great deal of resistance here at the BB.

We are for he most part Trinitarians believing God is three distinct persons in one divine essence.

Can you call yourself a Christian? Are you Jewish?

For what its worth I have a Jewish blood line on my mother's side though the Jewish culture and practices were lost before I was born.
I did not receive the covenant ritual 8 days after birth.

 

[teknonoftheos]

Thank you teknonoftheos, you have quite an unusual presentation.

Though I can't agree with you I am interested in what you have to say.

Keep us informed as to your calling once you know what it is, but be forewarned you will receive a great deal of resistance here at the BB.

We are for he most part Trinitarians believing God is three distinct persons in one divine essence.

Can you call yourself a Christian? Are you Jewish?

For what its worth I have a Jewish blood line on my mother's side though the Jewish culture and practices were lost before I was born.
I did not receive the covenant ritual 8 days after birth.

I am both a Christian and a Jew, for although I was raised as a Gentile, and also of the uncircumcision, I am a Jew by heritage through my father and my mother, which I am in the process of confirming with genealogists I hired that are investigating my lineage. Even so, I believe my calling to be related to the second olive branch, because that is what is in my heart to be, which corresponds to the Gentiles, where my assembly, which is my candlestick, will begin among the poor in Colombia, God willing, before my intention to live in Jerusalem for the final years before 6000 YB, to demonstrate the power of God from Jerusalem.

 

[loDebar]

teknonoftheos, thanks

 

[teknonoftheos]

Obviously you reject the Trinity you say the evil Catholics are responsible for. Of course, non-Catholics denying the Holy Trinity is nothing new.

Is there a body of true believers (a remnant perhaps) you affiliate with or is God using you to bring that to fruition?

No, I am not associated with any remnant, as of yet. If anything, I went to Colombia to begin an assembly there, because it is very difficult to do so in America, which is my country of birth, because of the evil financial system that entangles Americans in many ways, making it very difficult to do anything unless you become part of the financial system, which you cannot inherit the kingdom of God if you participate in this financial system, because it is based on the abomination of interest and usury, which is contrary to the Law of God. There are only ever up to seven small assemblies in the world that belong to God, the rest are false, which is why the menorah is a very specific symbol that was commanded to be built in the tabernacle of God, and why there were only seven assemblies in Asia mentioned in the book of Revelation, because by the time the visions of Revelation were given to John, the assemblies in Jerusalem and Rome had already vanished, and the new assemblies of God emerged in Asia, which were the only assemblies of God in the entire earth at that time, and in this way, throughout time since Yeshuah, and throughout the earth, up to seven assemblies exist that are true, vanishing and emerging from one place to another, which is how the light of God is displayed throughout the world, in a very discreet way. It is a very small remnant. Only 144,000 will emerge from the time of Abraham, to the second coming of Yeshuah, as the new glorified Israel.

 

[HankD]

I am both a Christian and a Jew, for although I was raised as a Gentile, and also of the uncircumcision, I am a Jew by heritage through my father and my mother, which I am in the process of confirming with genealogists I hired that are investigating my lineage. Even so, I believe my calling to be related to the second olive branch, because that is what is in my heart to be, which corresponds to the Gentiles, where my assembly, which is my candlestick, will begin among the poor in Colombia, God willing, before my intention to live in Jerusalem for the final years before 6000 YB, to demonstrate the power of God from Jerusalem.

Thank you teknonoftheos. May God grant you the illumination which can only come through Him.

By the way, what is the significance of you screen name "teknonoftheos"? if I might ask. Thanks.

 

[teknonoftheos]

Thank you teknonoftheos. May God grant you the illumination which can only come through Him.

By the way, what is the significance of you screen name "teknonoftheos"? if I might ask. Thanks.

Thank you for your blessing, and favor and peace to you from our Master Yeshuah Messiah. "Teknonoftheos" means "child of God" in Greek.

 

[HankD]

Thank you for your blessing, and favor and peace to you from our Master Yeshuah Messiah. "Teknonoftheos" means "child of God" in Greek.

Thanks. Oh, the English "of" in the middle threw me.

 

[teknonoftheos]

Thanks. Oh, the English "of" in the middle threw me.

Lol yes. Its actually a screen name I had since I was a teenager. Back then I thought it was cool to combine Greek words that I learned, and well, the name screen name stuck all these years later. I'm 31 now.

 

[Walter]

No, I am not associated with any remnant, as of yet. If anything, I went to Colombia to begin an assembly there, because it is very difficult to do so in America, which is my country of birth, because of the evil financial system that entangles Americans in many ways, making it very difficult to do anything unless you become part of the financial system, which you cannot inherit the kingdom of God if you participate in this financial system, because it is based on the abomination of interest and usury, which is contrary to the Law of God. There are only ever up to seven small assemblies in the world that belong to God, the rest are false, which is why the menorah is a very specific symbol that was commanded to be built in the tabernacle of God, and why there were only seven assemblies in Asia mentioned in the book of Revelation, because by the time the visions of Revelation were given to John, the assemblies in Jerusalem and Rome had already vanished, and the new assemblies of God emerged in Asia, which were the only assemblies of God in the entire earth at that time, and in this way, throughout time since Yeshuah, and throughout the earth, up to seven assemblies exist that are true, vanishing and emerging from one place to another, which is how the light of God is displayed throughout the world, in a very discreet way. It is a very small remnant. Only 144,000 will emerge from the time of Abraham, to the second coming of Yeshuah, as the new glorified Israel.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond with more clarity. I was having difficulty understanding your positions. As Hank said, I believe it is the position of the vast majority of those participating on this board that a belief in the Trinity is not an option to be a Christian. Would you take the time to elaborate on this? You mentioned that the dogma is a result of Rome. Do you reject the belief on that basis alone?

 

[teknonoftheos]

I appreciate you taking the time to respond with more clarity. I was having difficulty understanding your positions. As Hank said, I believe it is the position of the vast majority of those participating on this board that a belief in the Trinity is not an option to be a Christian. Would you take the time to elaborate on this? You mentioned that the dogma is a result of Rome. Do you reject the belief on that basis alone?

If you read my study you will see why the doctrine of the trinity is a lie, not even taking into account the obvious forgeries that exist in the manuscripts concerning the two trinitarian verses, as well as the doctrinal history of trinities and how it made its way into the gospel of Yeshuah. Its a lie, and that lie obscures the true identity of the set-apart airflow, which I explained what "set-apart airflow" means in the study. Once you understand this things in truth, and understand how the doctrine of the trinity is a lie, then all of a sudden you've come closer to truly receiving the gift of the set-apart airflow.