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The Supposed Errors in the KJV
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Sportzz Fanzz, I've said for many years that the KJVO myth is an invention of Satan's, which he uses to create strife & dissent within & between congregations, & We see proof of that right here in this thread. Right here, we see KJVOs running down modern Bible translations that are as valid as any others out there. We see disagreements among members, mostly Baptists, right here over the KJVO myth.
People, the KJVO myth is FALSE. There's not one Scripture supporting it, and without Scriptural support, no doctrine of faith/worship can be true. It only became popular with the advent of modern media, with certain authors seeing a cash cow to milk by selling books hawking that false doctrine. Several people here have shown their source for the KJVO myth is from those authors' trash by using the proven-false "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie" to try to justify their thralldom to that doctrine.
So, lemme ask them- WHERE DO THOSE VERSES MENTION THE KJV OR ANY OTHER BIBLE VERSION?????????? Can't answer, eh? No surprise!
It appears that for now, Satan has succeeded in causing strife & dissent & in casting doubt upon God's word with his KJVO myth. It's an insidious evil polluting Christianity among English users, & that's why I work to expose it for the false doctrine it is, & to help stamp it out. DUMP THE KJVO MYTH ! DON'T LET SATAN'S FALSE DOCTRINE INTO YOUR LIFE ANY MORE !
People, the KJVO myth is FALSE. There's not one Scripture supporting it, and without Scriptural support, no doctrine of faith/worship can be true. It only became popular with the advent of modern media, with certain authors seeing a cash cow to milk by selling books hawking that false doctrine. Several people here have shown their source for the KJVO myth is from those authors' trash by using the proven-false "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie" to try to justify their thralldom to that doctrine.
So, lemme ask them- WHERE DO THOSE VERSES MENTION THE KJV OR ANY OTHER BIBLE VERSION?????????? Can't answer, eh? No surprise!
It appears that for now, Satan has succeeded in causing strife & dissent & in casting doubt upon God's word with his KJVO myth. It's an insidious evil polluting Christianity among English users, & that's why I work to expose it for the false doctrine it is, & to help stamp it out. DUMP THE KJVO MYTH ! DON'T LET SATAN'S FALSE DOCTRINE INTO YOUR LIFE ANY MORE !
The only person I see causing strife, and dissent, and especially casting doubt on God's Word (the KJV) is YOU, roby! BTW, I posted to you once before....it's ENTHRALLED....not IN THRALLED.........you're welcome.
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Once again, I understand that you believe that, but you have to accept what the Bible actually states and not your view of what it ought to state. In the original Greek (in all texts) the verb is Present Continuous, 'are being saved.' Your objecting to it doesn't change what it says. It is the Jehovah's Witnesses who actually do change their Bible to fit their errant theology.
Dave G
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I assure you that I do.
I'm also careful not to impose what I might want it to say ( I don't, because I treat it as God speaking to me ) therefore I make every effort to let it do the speaking.
With that said, my Bible says, "ARE saved":
" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." ( 1 Corinthians 1:18 ).
" For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:" ( 2 Corinthians 2:15 ).
That's what I believe.
I agree with the Greek.
I also see that the translators of the so-called "KJV" agreed with the Greek.
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Dave G
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I'm not objecting to it.
It tells me that they are saved.
The Greek word describes a state of being, or a fact...
"Ones-being-saved".
https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/1co1.pdf
G4982 - sōzō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)
Present passive.
I've actually seen some Baptist preachers who do this, believe it or not.
For example, when someone points out the fact that the Bible actually states that there are people who will suffer everlasting torment in Revelation 14:9-11, I've seen occasional preachers and teachers dismiss it and simply reject the words on the page...
I can't do such a thing with His words, as they are far too precious to me.
Please share a few examples of what you consider KJV imperfections.
Not sure if you are trying to change the subject, or actually do not know my go to bible translation is the NASB95, and use the KJV, NKJV, NIV, NET, NLT, LEB, WEB, and YLT as comparison bibles. All of them contain errors in translation in my opinion. But, also in my opinion, the NASB95 is the most accurate.
Calvinists, like KJV onlyists, use absurdity to defend obviously false doctrine. Basically when people are untethered from truth, it is not edifying to discuss biblical doctrine.
Those that deny Calvinism's TULI of the Tulip are false doctrines will do so no matter how many verses must be nullified. Ditto for KJV-onlyists on the topic of KJV translation errors.
Stratton7
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On sermonaudio.com the co-author of the NASB speaks about the heresy in it’s pages and his steps to try to right his wrong. (Can’t recall his name off the top of my head).
RC3 has brought up what he considers to be the KJV's imperfections over many threads.
What YOU call 'casting doubt' is actually, TELLING THE TRUTH. The KJV DOES have goofs & booboos whether any KJVO is willing to admit it or not.
Can't you read ???? I wrote "IN THRALL", NOT 'IN THRALLED'.
So, you're claiming that YOU constantly posting that the King James version is full of goofs and boo-boos, is not the same as casting doubt on God's word? You're a a strange thinking man, because you are definitely casting doubt on the word of God..... Can't you see your leading people to doubt and disbelieve the word of God?... By the way,.... It's enthrall.... Not in thrall. Can't you spell?
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"Easter" in Acts 12:4.
"and shalt be" ADDED to Rev. 16:5.
"the love of money is THE root of ALL evil" in 1 Tim. 6:10.
Thou shalt not KILL", Ex. 20:13
Several mistranslations of sheol/hades as 'hell'. (That even has JESUS going to hell!)
I can go on til I run outta space listing other imperfections, most of which don't affect any doctrine, but those above are among the most-glaring ones. Let the KJVOs circle their wagons, but they can't refute any of them. (But let me give credit to "Hark" for presenting a very good defense for "Easter", although FACT renders it moot.)
Know what "BAH ! HUMBUG!" means?
thrall-in a state of being controlled or strongly influenced by someone or something
in thrall-IDIOM, in a state of thrall
enthrall-TRANSITIVE VERB-to hold or place one into a state of thrall
So I'm not at all incorrect to say many KJVOs are IN THRALL(state of being) to the KJVO myth. I COULD say they're ENTHRALLED(placed in thrall) by that myth.
Yes, what we might call ad infinitum, or even more properly ad nauseam.
Stratton7, welcome to the Baptist Board. Hope you find it a blessing.
So, would you say that those who are in thrall to the "KJVO myth" are doing the Devil's work?
Would you also say that non-KJVOs who run down a modern Bible translation are also doing the Devil's work?
Are you doing the Devil's work when you cause strife when you cast doubt on the KJV?
If they're promoting the KJVO myth, YES.
Depends upon the VERACITY of their work. If they're pointing out ACTUAL errors in a given translation, NO.(KJVO or non-KJVO)
No, because I'm telling the TRUTH. The truth is never Satan's work.
Stratton7
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Thanks Brother! I’m here and there but definitely a lot of insight here vs. quite a few places I’ve checked out.
Do you mean "you're leading people" [you are leading] instead of "your leading people"?
Do you also assert that KJV-only advocates are leading people to doubt and disbelieve the word of God as translated into present-day English in modern English Bibles?
If not, are you displaying use of unjust measures or making an unrighteous judgment in your seeming effort to provide aid only to KJV-only advocates or only to the KJV-only side?
Do the Scriptures teach believers to fear the truth?
Thank you for your correction. I used "talk to text" in that reply and didn't check the "your"/"you're" text.
To your questions.......
I believe ANYONE who causes doubt about the Word of God is wrong. Don't you? Roby is causing people to doubt the KJV, which is the Word of God. Why do you continue to support him? Can it be because you and roby both seem to be obsessed with it? Do you not have better things to do than causing people to find fault with a particular Bible translation? That's just sad.
Do you also assert that non- KJV advocates (like roby) are leading people to doubt and disbelieve the word of God as translated into the KJV?
If not, are you displaying use of unjust measures or making an unrighteous judgment in your seeming effort to provide aid only to non-KJV advocates or only to the non-KJV side?
Those questions go both ways, sir.
BTW, this will be my last reply to any of your posts because, frankly, after reading your "copy and paste" responses all over the internet for years on end, I find you highly annoying, and better ignored.
To your questions.......
I believe ANYONE who causes doubt about the Word of God is wrong. Don't you? Roby is causing people to doubt the KJV, which is the Word of God. Why do you continue to support him? Can it be because you and roby both seem to be obsessed with it? Do you not have better things to do than causing people to find fault with a particular Bible translation? That's just sad.
Do you also assert that non- KJV advocates (like roby) are leading people to doubt and disbelieve the word of God as translated into the KJV?
If not, are you displaying use of unjust measures or making an unrighteous judgment in your seeming effort to provide aid only to non-KJV advocates or only to the non-KJV side?
Those questions go both ways, sir.
BTW, this will be my last reply to any of your posts because, frankly, after reading your "copy and paste" responses all over the internet for years on end, I find you highly annoying, and better ignored.
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