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The Swift Boating of Cindy Sheehan
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Baptist in Richmond
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BTW, since you referenced this:Originally posted by carpro:
Your challenges worry me not at all.
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/18/3387/3.html
I asked you for your source, and you provided an extensive list for me, citing several sources for this timeline. Am I to believe that you personally researched all these articles and created this timeline from scratch? Is that what you are saying?
Just curious,
BiR
Baptist in Richmond
Active Member
Likewise, and you know that I am very fond of you as well. I trust that all is well with you and yours.
As for calling me out, exactly who called me out? I simply pointed out that the SwiftVets have not been completely forthright.
I posted several links that document the things that were noted about the SwiftVets by Media Matters for America. I have yet to see anyone dispute their charges.
So, if I understand you correctly, Kerry did NOT serve his country, as noted by my President. Remember: he actually went to Vietnam, although he undoubtedly could have avoided it. However little time he did serve, he still served.
Lots and lots of Christian love to you,
BiR
Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
Believe whatever you wish. I could care less.Originally posted by carpro:
Your challenges worry me not at all.
Am I to believe that you personally researched all these articles and created this timeline from scratch? Is that what you are saying?
Just curious,
BiR
Thank you.
And several people now, and I add myself to that list, have asked you to show in what way they haven't been "forthright".
Fair enough. I'll look into them and get back to you.
He did serve for 3 1/2 months out of a two year tour.
He left voluntarily after 3 1/2 months.
Several medical officials have testified that, while he was wounded, none of his wounds were severe enough to send him home.
And then there's the matter of what he left Vietnam to do.
He didn't come home to pick up a private life. He came home to become an anti-American radical, stabbing the men he had just served with, many of whom were still there, following through on their committment, in the backs.
We do know that his accusations before Congress were used as propaganda by the Communists and prisoners were tortured because of them.
This does not sound like an honorable man or a good American to me.
And to you, as well.
Baptist in Richmond
Active Member
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer my question: are you saying that you created that timeline yourself?
A simple yes/no question......
Regards,
BiR
Baptist in Richmond
Active Member
Sure: my post on page two of this discussion: second one from the top.
Regards,
BiR
Ed Edwards
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ballfan: "Nixon would have won except for massive
voter fraud in Cook County, Ill"
Don't forget the dead voting in Texas
I refer to the Nixon loss in 1960.
One county in Texas had 718 votes cast for
the democratic Kennedy out of 312 registered
voters
In 1968, when Nixon won, he won by placing
polling place monitors in Cook county to
help prevent repeat voters and polling
place monitors in rural Texas to prevent
the dead from voting.
(Note for the humor impaired: the following is
a joke: certain elements are enhansed
favoring humor rather than historical accuracy.)
In the 3rd week of Nov 1960 my Grandfather
(Mother's Dad) said: "I'm mad at Daddy!!"
"What, what" we said "he died 22 years ago"
"Yes, but he came back from the dead to
vote Democratic and didn't even come
to see me "
voter fraud in Cook County, Ill"
Don't forget the dead voting in Texas
I refer to the Nixon loss in 1960.
One county in Texas had 718 votes cast for
the democratic Kennedy out of 312 registered
voters
In 1968, when Nixon won, he won by placing
polling place monitors in Cook county to
help prevent repeat voters and polling
place monitors in rural Texas to prevent
the dead from voting.
(Note for the humor impaired: the following is
a joke: certain elements are enhansed
favoring humor rather than historical accuracy.)
In the 3rd week of Nov 1960 my Grandfather
(Mother's Dad) said: "I'm mad at Daddy!!"
"What, what" we said "he died 22 years ago"
"Yes, but he came back from the dead to
vote Democratic and didn't even come
to see me
"Speed Gracer
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If you ask me, anyone that kills for personal gain and claims he is chistian should never get a christian vote. He has more soldiers in Iraq than he does in Afganistan. That should tell you something: Speacial interest republicans win again and America loses...
Back to the topic--Mrs. Sheehan is now calling the President names again:
'"When I get up [to heaven], he's gonna say, 'Good job, mom,'" the California woman said in a speech last night upon her return to Crawford, Texas. "He's not going to say, 'Why'd you make me spin in my grave?' you know. And I can just hear him saying, 'George Bush, you are really an idiot. You didn't know what you were doing when you killed me. You didn't know what you were getting into.'"'
Mrs. Sheehan's potty mouth was what sunk her boat. I wonder how much longer the Democrats are going to hide behind Mrs. Sheehan?
'"When I get up [to heaven], he's gonna say, 'Good job, mom,'" the California woman said in a speech last night upon her return to Crawford, Texas. "He's not going to say, 'Why'd you make me spin in my grave?' you know. And I can just hear him saying, 'George Bush, you are really an idiot. You didn't know what you were doing when you killed me. You didn't know what you were getting into.'"'
Mrs. Sheehan's potty mouth was what sunk her boat. I wonder how much longer the Democrats are going to hide behind Mrs. Sheehan?
The only people that voted for him were Rednecks, senior citizens, Cowboys, and really mislead Christians who think that Bush represents the Christian community.
OldRegular
Well-Known Member
If you ask me, anyone that kills for personal gain and claims he is chistian should never get a christian vote. He has more soldiers in Iraq than he does in Afganistan. That should tell you something: Speacial interest republicans win again and America loses... </font>[/QUOTE]Consider the above intemperate remarks by Speed Gracer and then realize that those who opposed Mr. Bush have passionately endorsed the slaughter of more than 40,000,000 unborn children. That is the reason they are afraid of Mr. Bush and the possibility that his Supreme Court appointees will bring an end to this senseless slaughter.
Speed Gracer demonstrates the hypocrisy of those who criticize Mr. Bush's policies and yet endorse the murder of the unborn.
OldRegular
Well-Known Member
If you ask me, anyone that kills for personal gain and claims he is chistian should never get a christian vote. He has more soldiers in Iraq than he does in Afganistan. That should tell you something: Speacial interest republicans win again and America loses... </font>[/QUOTE]Courtesy of Speed Gracer we now know that the majority of people in this country are Rednecks, senior citizens, Cowboys, and really mislead Christians!
Good for him.
President Bush has never claimed to "represent the Christian community". He's the president, not a religious leader.
OK. I'll bite: what "personal gain" is President Bush killing for and who has he killed?
No, it tells me that we've more or less stablized Afghanistan and there is more work to do in Iraq.
Speed Gracer
New Member
Be careful what you say. Bush has policies similar to that of abortion: murder is murder.
Speed Gracer
New Member
Yes, exactly. All, let me see, 51% percent of you. Which leaves 49% of us. Sound's pretty even to me. Oh, by the way, you want to know what the future is? 18 to 30 year olds voted 67% in favor of Democracy. And what about the South? Here in Alabama, Bush got about 65% of the vote. There are alot of rednecks in Alabama. If you don't believe me, come to Alabama. I have grounds to stand on with my statement.
Baptist in Richmond
Active Member
Hello Mike,
Hope you had a great week, and are ready for an even greater weekend.
As for winning fair and square, that is not exactly true. I was in Florida in 2000, I voted for President Bush, and was disgusted with both sides after Election Day. Neither side was blameless in 2000.
Lots of Christian love,
BiR
OldRegular
Well-Known Member
elijah_lives
New Member
He has more soldiers in Iraq than he does in Afganistan.
Military necessity. If it was the other way around, I'd be seriously questioning his strategic planning.
Be careful what you say. Bush has policies similar to that of abortion: murder is murder.
Murder is unjustified killing. That definition fits the practice of abortion perfectly. It doesn't apply at all to our military actions in Iraq or Afghanistan. If it did, you'd be implicitly calling virtually every President we've had, in recent memory, of murder. It also explicitly calls our servicemen (and women) in action murderers.
This is a perfect example of overblown, irresponsible rhetoric. I absolutely reject it.
Military necessity. If it was the other way around, I'd be seriously questioning his strategic planning.
Be careful what you say. Bush has policies similar to that of abortion: murder is murder.
Murder is unjustified killing. That definition fits the practice of abortion perfectly. It doesn't apply at all to our military actions in Iraq or Afghanistan. If it did, you'd be implicitly calling virtually every President we've had, in recent memory, of murder. It also explicitly calls our servicemen (and women) in action murderers.
This is a perfect example of overblown, irresponsible rhetoric. I absolutely reject it.