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The Systematic Theology of John Brown of Haddington

Zaatar71

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There are a few. I have a lot of systematic theologies (not that one, though).
I would think you would like this, because it is overloaded with scriptural references
My favorite was Enns (you would like him, he is a Calvinist). But what I liked about his is that he looked at other views, not despairing the view, although he indicated which he held. I cannot say he treated other views equally or fairly, but the way it was written it comes across that he tried (we can't help but favor what we believe true).

That said, I am not really as interested in Systematic Theology as I was in the past. I am more interested in Biblical Theology and Historical Theology (things used by Systematic Theology).
I am about the same way now, more with the biblical theology as it speaks toward our carrying out the Great Commission
Maybe this has to do with having read so many Systematic Theologies in the past (they have been in my attic for the last 8 years).

Anyway, check out Enns. He is right up your alley. That is....unless you decide to join me on the dark side, then don't waste your time :Biggrin .
My reading is more on biblical theology now. The systematics are needful to stave off heretics and cults. The biblical theology gets more to heart and life issues.
 

Zaatar71

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Objection I. "Such a scheme of election renders God a respecter of persons, contrary to Acts 10:34; Job 34:11,19; Deut 10:17-18; 2 Chron 19:7; Col 3:24-25; Rom 2:11; 1 Pet 1:17."
Answer 1. It no more represents him as a respecter of persons than his actual saving of some men, and not of any devils, and his giving to some temporal privileges or eternal salvation, which he doth not bestow on others as deserving.

2. In his purpose of election, God shews no respect to persons on account of their being Jews or Gentiles, poor or rich, great or small, in the world, which is the meaning of these texts, but acts from his own sovereign love and free grace.

3. If God should choose or reprobate, save or damn men, as their free will is pleased to exert itself, then, indeed, he would be a respecter of persons.

Objection II. "In the declarations of the gospel, which are an extract of God's purpose of election, eternal salvation is suspended on our faith, sincere obedience, and final perseverance in holiness, Mark 16:16; John 3:16,18,36; Rev 22:14; Rev 2:7,11,17,26-28; Rev 3:5,12,21; Gal 6:9; Matt 24:13; Rom 2:7,10; Isa 1:19; Isa 3:10."

Answer 1. Not one of these declarations represents God's electing decree in the conditions of its establishment, but merely exhibits the connection fixed in it between the different fruits of it, or the parts and degrees of salvation.

2. Faith, sincere obedience, and perseverance in holiness, are not proper conditions on which our eternal happiness is suspended; but being necessary fruits of election, means of, and preparations for happiness, they characterize the persons who have been elected and shall be glorified, John 10:27 29; Acts 13:48; 1 Thess 1:4-5; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Pet 1:2; Eph 1:4; Rom 8:29-30.

Objection III. "An absolute, unconditional, and unchangeable election of particular persons to eternal happiness, enervates and renders altogether unprofitable the whole preaching and ordinances of the gospel, with all the good endeavors of mankind, and encourages them to sloth and wickedness
,—for, if they be elected, they will certainly be saved, do what they will; and if they be not elected they will not be saved, let them do what they can."
Answer 1. As in this decree the means of happiness are fixed along with, and inseparably from the end, it is highly absurd to contend, that the fixing the end will render the means unnecessary or unprofitable.

2. Even in the common affairs of life, they who believe that God hath unalterably foreordained all things which come to pass, are as diligent in their lawful employments, and as careful to provide and use food, raiment, houses, medicine, etc. as others who do not.

3. No man hath any reason to expect eternal happiness, but in the way of a diligent attendance on, and improvement of the ordinances of the gospel, public, private, and secret, according to his capacity and opportunity,
—and of earnest and persevering endeavors to perfect holiness in the fear of the Lord, Rom 10:17; Isa 55:1-7; Matt 7:7,13 14; Matt 6:33, Luke 13:24; Prov 8:17,34-36; 2 Pet 1:3-11; Heb 11:6; Heb 12:14; 1 Cor 15:58; 2 Cor 7:1.

4. No man can have any evidence of his being elected by God, without an active study of holiness in all manner of conversation, 2 Pet 1:3-10; 2 Tim 2:19; Eph 1:4; Col 1:22; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Pet 1:2.

5. Though our diligent attendance on gospel ordinances, our faith, repentance, or new obedience, cannot, in the least, promote God's making choice of us, and electing us to eternal life, as that was fixed long before we existed,
—yet they mightily promote the execution of his electing purpose in our actual enjoyment of all the benefits of that salvation to which we were, from eternity, elected, Phil 2:12-13; 1 Cor 9:24-27; 1 Cor 15:58; Rom 5:1-5; Ps 19:11; Ps 84:7,11-12; Job 17:9; Prov 4:18; 2 Tim 4:7-8; Rev 3:7,12,21.

6. It is impossible for men cordially to believe the giving, the redeeming, the electing love of God, without being thereby delightfully constrained, and effectually animated to an earnest care of their salvation, and an active study of faith and holiness. Nor are we, the friends of unconditional election, afraid to compare practices with our opponents when they please, if they will but admit the exceeding broad law of God, in both its tables, to be the rule and standard of judgment, 1 Thess 1:3-10; Gal 2:19-20; 2 Tim 1:9; 2 Tim 2:19; 1 Cor 15:10; 1 Thess 2:1-10.
 

Zaatar71

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Objection IV. "An unconditional unalterable election of particular persons of mankind to everlasting life, is inconsistent with the wisdom, goodness, and integrity of God."

Answer 1. If God, in providence, bring particular persons of mankind to everlasting life, it is but absurd blasphemy to rail at his fixed election of them to it in his eternal purpose, as if that were contrary to his nature.

2. If it be consistent with the perfections of God to choose particular angels, and render them eternally happy, how can it be inconsistent with them, that some particular men should be elected and rendered eternally happy?

3. Not an unconditional, but a conditional election of men is manifestly inconsistent with, and disgraceful to God's wisdom, goodness, and integrity. His wisdom is infinitely more brightly displayed in that election which, without hurting a single creature, infallibly secures the salvation of thousands of millions, Rev 7:9, than in that which leaves matters so loose and undetermined, that Christ may die for all men,
—intercede to his uttermost for them, and bestow all his ordinances upon them, and the Holy Ghost, with all his might, strive with each of them to no purpose,
—their whole happiness depending on the proper exertions of their free will, a carnal mind, enmity against God, a heart deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked
.—It is infinitely more kind and gracious, unalterably to purpose to exert his almighty power, and other perfections, in order effectually to bestow that grace and glory, which are necessary to make them for ever holy and happy, upon unnumbered millions, than merely to resolve to give all men an infinitely improbable, nay impossible chance of being happy,
—that is, to prepare happiness for them, upon condition that their desperately wicked heart convert itself to believe the gospel, love God, and persevere till death in all holy obedience to him; and meanwhile scarcely give the hundredth part of them the smallest hint of his proposals.
—God in his word hath candidly declared, that of the many who are called by the gospel, few are chosen, and that few find the way that leadeth to eternal life, while many walk in the broad way which leadeth to destruction, Matt 20:16; Matt 22:14; Matt 7:13-14, and in Christian countries few, very few, bear the characters of saintship marked in his word.
—How can our affirming that which is so manifest in his word and in his providence, be an impeachment of his candor?
—If, in the declarations of the gospel, he assure men that it is both their duty and interest to believe in Jesus Christ for their eternal salvation, how is it an impeachment of his candor, to maintain that this indispensable rule of our duty to him is not necessarily the rule of his providential conduct toward us?
—or to maintain, that he cannot inform us of our duty, without divulging to us his most secret purposes? It is time enough for us to claim the same rule of conduct with Jehovah, when our free will hath transformed our mean and desperately wicked nature into true Godhead.

II. With respect to the reprobation of men, it may be observed, I. That God purposed to permit sin.

1. This the Scripture expressly affirms, Gen 50:20; Acts 2:23-24; Acts 4:27-28; hence,

2. He hath foretold multitudes of evil actions, Gen 15:16; Deut 31:16,20,29; Deut 32:6,15-21; Isa 1; Isa 5; Isa 10; Jer 25; Rev 6; Rev 8-9; Rev 11-13; 2 Tim 3:1-6,13; 2 Thess 2:3-12.

3. In time God actually permits much sin, Acts 14:16; 2 Thess 2:9-11; Gen 50:20; Gen 45:5,7; Ps 81:12; Rom 1:21-32.
No sin, which hath been, or is in the world, can be said to have happened without his foreknowledge of it, Acts 15:18; Isa 46:10 11; Ps 147:5, or, notwithstanding all that his infinite power could have done to prevent and hinder it, Gen 18:14; Jer 32:17,27; Matt 19:26.
Nay, his permission of it tends to the honour of his absolute sovereignty, infinite wisdom, holiness, and justice,
—and to the advantage of established angels and men.

II. God in his predestinating purpose, left some men unelected to perish in their sin, to the praise of the glory of his justice.

1. The Scriptures plainly declare this, Prov 16:4. (where pahhhal, hath made, signifies to appoint, ordain, prepare, Exod 15:17; Ps 31:19, even as poieo, Mark 3:14; Heb 3:2.) 1 Pet 2:8. (where stumbling denotes sinning) Jude 4. (where krima, condemnation, denotes the sinful cause of condemnation or what is criminal) John 9:39; Rev 13:8; 2 Cor 4:3-4; Rom 9:13-22; 1 Thess 5:9; 2 Thess 2:10-12-13.

2. In God's providence, which is an exact copy of his decree, Acts 15:18; Isa 46:10; Eph 1:11; Ps 33:11, multitudes appear plainly left to perish in their sin, Matt 7:13-14; 2 Thess 2:10-12; 2 Thess 1:8-9; Rev 13:3,8; Rev 17:17; Ps 9:17.

Millions of fallen angels had never a Savior provided for them, Jude 6; 2 Pet 2:4. Hundreds of millions of men, for many ages, have never been informed of the method of redemption through Christ, Ps 147:19-20; Prov 29:18; Eph 2:12; Acts 14:16; Acts 17:30.

—The far greater part of those that hear the gospel, or at least are called Christians, are, by their rejection of it, ripened for hell, Matt 20:16; Matt 22:14; Matt 7:13-14; John 10:26; John 12:39-40; 2 Cor 4:3-4; Isa 6:9-10; Acts 28:26-27; Phil 3:18-19; 2 Tim 3:1-5; Rev 13:3,8; Rev 14:9-11.
 

Zaatar71

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II. It follows that certain particular persons have been, in God's decree, appointed to wrath, Mal 1:2-3; Rom 9:11-18; 1 Thess 5:9; Jude 4; were never favorably known by God, Matt 7:23; were never appointed or ordained to eternal life, Rev 13:8; Rev 17:8.

—Nay, particular election of some necessarily infers a particular reprobation of others.

—In which act of reprobation is included,

1. God's passing by certain persons, leaving them unelected, Matt 7:23; Rev 13:8; Rev 17:8.

2. A pre-appointment of them to undergo his just wrath, to be inflicted on them as the punishment of their foreseen sinfulness, 1 Thess 5:9.
But it must be remarked, that though men's sins be foreseen and viewed in God's pre-appointment of them unto wrath, as the cause of their condemnation and punishment, yet they are not the cause of his leaving them unelected to perish in their sin; for,

1. Reprobates are no worse by nature than those that are elected, 1 Cor 1:26-27; 1 Cor 4:7; John 13:18; Eph 2:1-3.

2. Their practice was foreseen as no worse than that of many elected persons before their conversion, 1 Cor 6:9-11; Eph 2:1-13; 1 Tim 1:13,16; Titus 2:3-6.

3. The wickedness of unelected men is represented as the consequence, though not the proper effect of their reprobation, 2 Cor 4:3; John 10:26; John 12:39; 1 Pet 2:8-9; Jude 4; Rev 13:8.
Reprobation may therefore be described, "A simple act of an independent, sovereign, infinitely wise, powerful, righteous, and holy God,

—whose thoughts are infinitely high, his judgments unsearchable, and his ways past finding out, Isa 55:9; Isa 40:13; Rom 11:33-34; Ps 92:5; Ps 147:5

.—in which he, in his eternal and unchangeable counsel, Matt 25:34,41; Rom 9:11; James 1:17; Isa 46:10; Heb 6:17; Eph 1:11; Ps 33:11.
—intending to manifest the glory of his absolute sovereignty, almighty power, unsearchable wisdom, unconceivable patience,
—and particularly of his infinite holiness and avenging justice, Rom 11:36; Rom 9:11,15-22; Matt 20:15; Rom 11:33-34; Rom 2:4; Isa 5:4,16; Prov 16:4.
—did, according to his own good pleasure, purpose in himself, to leave many particular men, no worse in themselves than others,
—in their estate of sin and misery, into which they were to be permitted to fall, Rom 9:6-7,11,15-18,29; Rom 9:21; Rom 11:20-22; Rom 5:12; Eph 2:3; Matt 24:40-41;
—and never to know them in the way of peculiar regard, or love them with any good will, or pity them in order to their effectual recovery,
—nor to choose, predestinate, distinguish from others, or ordain them to eternal life, Matt 7:23; Rom 8:29-30; Rom 9:13,15; Mal 1:2-3; John 13:18; 1 Cor 4:7; Acts 13:48; 1 Thess 5:9,
—or write their names in his book of life, or set them apart for his sheep, people, children, or vessels of mercy, John 10:26; Rom 9:6-7,23; Hos 1:6,9; Mal 3:17;
— and hence purposed to withhold from them all his undeserved favors of redemption and reconciliation through Christ,
—of effectual calling, faith, justification, adoption, and sanctification, John 10:15,26; John 17:9; John 12:37-40; Matt 11:25-26; Matt 13:11,13; Rom 8:28-33; 2 Thess 3:2; Eph 2:8;
—though not from them all his favors of common providence, gospel ordinances, spiritual gifts, or strivings of the Holy Ghost, by which they are rendered useful to his elect people, Acts 14:17; Acts 17:30; Rom 2:4; Rom 9:22; Exod 7:16-17; Lev 26:3-13; Deut 28:1-14; Isa 5:4; Matt 13:9; Matt 23:37; Heb 6:4-5; Heb 10:26,29; 2 Pet 2:20-21; 1 Cor 12:10; Gen 6:3; Isa 63:10; Acts 7:51;
—and further determined in himself, that they, having rendered themselves miserable by their sin, original or actual, against law or gospel,
—and become abusers or despisers of his benefits offered to, or bestowed on them, Rom 5:12; Eph 2:1-3,12; Rom 2:12,14-15; Mark 16:16; John 3:18,36; John 4:40; Rom 2:4-5; Rom 11:7-8; Matt 10:15; Matt 11:21-22; Job 8:4; Job 9:4; Ps 81:13; Acts 14:16.
—should,—in an infinitely wise, sovereign, just, and holy manner, answerable to their own freedom of will and their rebellious inclinations, Deut 32:4; Ps 45:7; Jer 12:1; James 1:13; Matt 23:37-38; John 5:40; John 8:12; Acts 7:51,
—be, for the punishment of their preceding sins,—spiritually blinded, hardened, and given up to strong delusions, vile affections, and a reprobate sense, Rom 9:22; Exod 14:4; John 12:40; Rom 9:15,17; Rom 11:7-8; Rom 1:24,28; 2 Thess 2:11; Isa 66:4;
—and that they, persevering in their wickedness, and convicted by their own consciences of final impenitence, neither able to blame the just severity of God, nor to excuse their own ignorance, or their inability to accept of his offered salvation, Matt 27:4; Luke 16:24; Matt 25:25-26,44; Rom 2:14-15; Rom 1:20; Rom 9:19-20; Luke 22:22; John 5:40; should be eternally damned for their sins, Hos 13:9; Matt 25:41-42; Isa 5:11; Ezek 18:4; Rom 2:8-9; Rom 6:23; Eph 5:5-6; Col 3:6; 1 Cor 6:9-10; Gal 5:19-21
Rom 9:22;—as vessels of wrath fitted to destruction,
Eph 2:3;—children of wrath,
2 Thess 2:3;—children of perdition,
John 17:12—hated of God,
Lam 3:37-38;—appointed to evil and wrath,
Mal 1:3; Rom 9:13; Prov 16:4; 1 Thess 5:9; 1 Pet 2:8; Jude 4."—separated, and before-ordained to condemnation,
 

Zaatar71

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This awful doctrine of Reprobation, as well as of the Election of men, ought, with great prudence and holy awe, to be taught in the church.
1. It hath been proved that the Holy Ghost hath plainly taught it in his word, Rom 9:11-22; Rom 11:1-7.

2. Every thing taught in the Scripture, lawfully used, tends to promote men's holiness in heart and life, Rom 15:4; 2 Tim 3:16-17; 1 Pet 2:1-2; James 1:21; Ps 119:9,11.

3. Election and reprobation being so closely related and contrasted, the former can neither be taught nor conceived of, separately from the latter.

4. In his providence, which every man ought to observe, Ps 107:43; Hos 14:9; Isa 5:12.
God copies out his decree of reprobation, in the life and in the death of the wicked, Jude 4; 1 Pet 2:8; Isa 46:10-11; Eph 1:11; Ps 33:11; Acts 2:23; Acts 4:27-28; Acts 1:16-18,25; Luke 22:22; Phil 3:18-19.

5. A proper knowledge of this decree promotes right and reverential views of the sovereignty, power, wisdom, justice, and goodness of God, Matt 11:26; Rom 9:13,22-23; Eph 1:5-6.

6. The doctrine of reprobation, if duly taught, tends to alarm the wicked and render their consciences uneasy, till they obtain proper evidence that they are not included in it, and to render sin terrible to them:
—And it excites saints to self examination, and to lively gratitude to God their Redeemer, in a course of gospel holiness, Matt 25:41; Rom 1:18; 1 Thess 5:9-10; 2 Cor 5:10-11; Ps 116:16; Luke 1:74-75.
—To render the whole decree of predestination as odious as possible, our opponents strain every nerve to run down that of Reprobation, which is so unpleasant to men's unrenewed heart.

Objection I. "Since the infinite perfections of God's nature necessarily requires, that all men should love and fear him, he cannot, in a consistence with that perfection, or even with common candor, lay any of them under an incapacity to do so."

Answer 1. Though the almighty operation of God's grace be absolutely necessary to remove men's incapacity of loving him,
—yet, as his decree, in no respect, forced or drew that incapacity upon them, but they, in their first parents, voluntarily contracted it, in direct opposition to his commandment,
—and do as early as possible personally approve of, and delight in it, he can be under no obligation to deliver them from it, especially, as his leaving them under it is but the just punishment of their sin.

2. God's purpose to permit men to fall into, or continue under a sinful incapacity of loving and fearing him, can never be more contrary to his perfection and sincerity, than his actual providential permission of both devils and men to fall into sin and continue in it.—To suppose that his purpose and providence are not perfectly correspondent, is to charge him with ignorance in forming his plan, or with folly, weakness, and changeableness, in the execution of it, Ps 50:21.
 

Zaatar71

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Objection II. "God, being infinitely merciful, good to all, his tender mercy over all his works, taking no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but willing that all men should be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth, Ps 103:8; Ps 145:9; Ezek 33:11; 1 Tim 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9,

—cannot by an act of his will, fix so many thousands of his rational creatures, who are no worse than others, in sinfulness, or require them to receive his salvation, while their inward corruptions, permitted by himself, render them incapable."

Answer 1. By what tie is this infinitely merciful God bound to preserve all his rational creatures in this original perfection of holiness, whether they will or not?—By what tie is he bound to shew favor to one sinner, who hath offended him, and sought his life?

—By what tie is he bound to shew more favor to sinful men, than to fallen angels, who are his own rational creatures of a far higher rank?

2. What avails that infinite mercy, which is supposed to have predestinated all men (and why not all devils?) to everlasting happiness, if it bring but a few of them to it, nay, can bring none of them to it, but as their wicked free will pleases; nay, if it do not so much as inform the hundredth part of mankind of the only method of their salvation through Christ?

3. Of the small part of mankind who are properly invited by the gospel as preached, to receive this salvation, multitudes, not by any influence of God's decree, but by their own self-approved enmity against it, obstinately reject it, John 5:40; Ps 81:11; Hos 11:2,7; Rom 8:7-8; Jer 17:9; Zech 7:11-12; Zech 11:8; Gen 6:5; Gen 8:21.

4. A scheme, which infallibly secures the eternal happiness, perhaps of many thousand millions of mankind, is infinitely more merciful than one which secures it for none, but suspends all upon the proper exertions of a free will, a carnal mind, enmity against God,
—a heart deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.—We allow, that every man that hears the gospel is warranted,
—is solemnly called, and earnestly entreated by God to believe on Jesus Christ for salvation. We allow, that one single act of believing, which is ten thousand times less than perseverance in faith and holiness till death, will render a man's state unalterably happy for ever more.
—We allow of God's giving, even to reprobates, the largest measures and highest degrees of the common influences of his Spirit to assist them towards acts of faith. Our opponents dare not pretend, that they allow more to their elect,
— nay, to their choicest saints.
—If men's free will can therefore turn the scale in their favor, and make them believe in Christ, we allow a method of eternal salvation a thousand times more easy to reprobates, than our opponents do to any man.

Objection III. "How can it consist with the infinite wisdom of God, to fix on the objects of his favor or of his abhorrence, without regard to their moral behavior as the cause?
—or, to appoint means of salvation for those to whom he hath decreed never to give that which is absolutely necessary to render these means effectual?
—or, to require or expect the conversion of reprobates, when he himself hinders it by his unalterable decrees?"

Answer 1. God abhors no creature, but on account of his sin, Gen 1:31; Ps 104:31. It would be very unwise in God to fix upon any of mankind as his favorites, from respect to their behavior, since, in their unconverted state, not one of them can do any thing but what is abominable to him, in matter or manner, Ps 14:1-4; Rom 8:7-8; Rom 3:10-20; Jer 17:9; Eph 2:1-3; Titus 3:3.
—But, both his wisdom and sovereignty are highly glorified in his choosing of many, the most unpromising, that so his almighty power and infinite mercy may the more abundantly shine forth in his qualifying them for the most familiar fellowship with himself, and for his service, 1 Cor 1:25-29; 1 Tim 1:13-16; Rom 5:20 21.—

2. God hath not granted the means of eternal salvation to the most of mankind:—nor doth his granting them to any exhibit his decree of saving them, but the true method of obtaining salvation, and their duty to comply with and improve it, Mark 16:16; Acts 16:31; Acts 2:37-39; John 3:14-18.

3. The Scripture never represents God as expecting the conversion of reprobates. To assert that he expects any thing which never happens, is to deny his infinite wisdom and knowledge.

4. God's requiring from gospel hearers their proper duty, is his appointed mean of effectually converting his elect,
—even as Christ's calling of Lazarus to come forth, and the widow's son and ruler's daughter to arise, was his decreed mean of actually raising them from the dead:
—and meanwhile it renders reprobates much more useful and happy in this world, than otherwise they would be.

Objection IV. "If God, by a secret and unchangeable act of his will, hath consigned multitudes of mankind to everlasting ruin, how can he, in a consistence with uprightness and sincerity, openly declare, that he is not willing that any should perish, but that all should be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth, Ezek 33:11; 1 Tim 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9?

How can he impose a law upon them, to be obeyed under pain of damnation, while he himself is unalterably resolved to withhold from them all power and ability to keep it? How can he be serious and earnest in calling men to repentance and salvation, if by his own unalterable purpose, he hath rendered both utterly impossible?
How can he profess to wish their welfare, or promise them eternal life upon conditions which are infallibly hindered by his own decree;—or to offer it to them, upon whom he is unalterably determined never to bestow it?"

Answer 1. The Scripture never declares, that God is inclined to have every individual of mankind, Judas, Antichrist, etc. saved, but the contrary, John 17:9,12; 2 Thess 2:4,11-12; Rom 9:22. Now, if one be appointed to wrath, it will affect the sincerity of God, in the sense of the objection, as much as if it were ten thousand millions.

2. We readily grant, that men of all nations, ranks, and conditions, are actually saved, than which the Scripture never affirms anything more universal on this point, 1 Tim 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9; Joel 2:28; John 12:32; John 16:9; Rev 7:9.

3. Be the purpose of God what it will, his holy, just, good, and exceeding broad law, binds, and will forever bind, both devils and men to holiness, nay to perfection in holiness; otherwise, they could not commit sin, Rom 4:15; Rom 5:13; 1 John 3:4.
—And, men's attempts to obey it are rewarded in this life, or in the next, with, at least, less degrees of punishment, Matt 11:21-24; Matt 12:41-42.

4. As, in ordinary cases, no man, in this life, can certainly know that he is included in God's reprobating decree,
—and as it, in no case, lays any restraint or force upon men's will, it cannot be it, but their own inward corruption and enmity against God, which hinders their care or endeavors to promote their eternal happiness.

5. Most of those scriptures, in which God appears to wish men's welfare, and to promise them happiness on condition of their obedience, directly relate to the felicity of the Jews in Canaan, which they held upon the foot of such reformation and behavior, as was partly in their own power, without any assistance of saving grace, Deut 5:29; Deut 32:29; Ps 81:13; Isa 1:19-20; Ezek 18:30-32; Ezek 33:11; Jer 6:8.

6. Spiritual pardon and salvation are never secured by promise to any but such as have true faith, and that not as a proper condition, but as a mean of receiving them,—and hence as a fruit of election, 2 Thess 2:2,13; Titus 1:2; Acts 2:47; Acts 13:48.

7. The gospel is so far from declaring that God intends to save all men, that it plainly affirms, that he intends to save but the smaller part of gospel-hearers, Matt 7:13 15,23; Matt 20:16; Matt 22:14.
But it peremptorily declares that Jesus Christ is able to save to the uttermost all them that come unto God by him;
—that he and his salvation are equally suited to the needs of every hearer;
—that, by the gracious appointment and infinitely free gift of God, he is the Official Savior of mankind indefinitely considered, and will in no wise cast out any that come to him for salvation;
—that it is the duty and interest of all gospel hearers, as lost and self-ruined sinners, to exert all the powers of their soul to the uttermost, in essaying to believe on and receive him and his salvation, as fully, freely, earnestly, and indefinitely offered to them;
—that, not knowing but they are elected, they all ought, earnestly and repeatedly, to attempt this believing, in order to have certain proof that they are so;
—that by means of gospel declarations, offers, and invitations, under the influence of the Holy Ghost, the adult elect are brought into their state of salvation, and many reprobates are qualified with spiritual gifts, which render them useful companions and assistants to the elect in this world.

8. Unless, in providence, God actually should save all men, especially all that hear the gospel, which it is manifest he doth not, the whole charge of the objection will fall upon him, with all its weigh
 

Van

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On and on, the Calvinists post copy and paste immense amounts of verbiage, citing verse after verse, but signifying nothing.

God's will and desire to save all people is clearly stated in 1 Timothy 2:4, but not by way of compulsion, the false claim of Calvinism. God provided the means of salvation, Christ Jesus, and the access path for salvation, faith in Christ as credited by God. Thus, Christ died as a ransom for all, 1 Timothy 2:6, those to be saved in accordance with God's redemption plan, and those not to be saved in accordance with God's redemption plan, 2 Peter 2:1. Everyone believing in Christ, as determined by God alone, will never perish, but have everlasting life, John 3:16.

This is not rocket science.
 

Paleouss

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Greetings brothers. Peace and hope to you in our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Does God know everything imaginable or
Yes, He does.
It seems to me, in the attempt to make distinctions, that God knows all things knowable. I say "all things knowable" to exclude human nonsense and irrationalism. A good example of what I intend is the introductory example in every philosophy course, that of the 'imagined' married bachelor. The question usually is, could God create a married bachelor?

This imagined concept is nonsense disguised as wisdom. It is a contradiction, an error of thought passed off as something imaginable. Since by definition a bachelor is someone not married, then it is nonsense to suggest that something can be and not be at the same time.

But we dare not fall into the trap and suggest that this is something God cannot create. For it is nonsense from the very beginning of premise one. It is as if I asked, can God kjieine
e einfeienf ifnefiie (which no one should understand).

Likewise, God knows all things knowable.
or only what God has chosen to know.
God being Very god cannot will Himself to no longer being Omniscience
This 'can God choose to not know something' is interesting. My first blush response to it would be something like what JesusFan replied.

We do know in Hebrews 8:12 it says, "and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more." So there would be a sense in which God remembers no more. But is this "remembering" or is this "counting toward offense remembering". It still doesn't speak to God not knowing before the action, only to God saying He won't remember after the action.

In true compatablist fashion, I'll claim God's complete providence from atemporal eternity AND the God enabled temporal freedom to submit or reject. Neither conflicting with the other. As Genesis 50:20 suggests, both God's will and man's will seem to be done.

(Gen 50:20 NKJV) 20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; [but] God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as [it is] this day, to save many people alive.

Peace to you brothers
 
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Yes, He does.

The section of God is very long, I will put that up next. it should answer your questions

We can investigate that claim.

That is clearly taught although several have not come to see it yet...

some say that, but others see it as truth from scripture.

What if we let scripture teach these truths as John brown lays out here. I see nothing but scripture so far. Did he mention Calvinism? I must have missed that part!

Scripture seems to indicate He has done all of the election before ethe world was, so that takes care of the "What if's" Thanks for your contribution!
Here Calvinism proclaims God does not "remember no more forever" clearly putting man-made doctrine over God's word.
 

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God's will and desire to save all people is clearly stated in 1 Timothy 2:4
Greetings Van.

I totally agree. The Scripture appears to be in unison here.

1. God our Savior “desires all men to be saved” (1Tit 2:4)
2. Therefore, Jesus came to be “the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe” (1Tim 4:10).
3. Because God is the savior of all men, Jesus came to be the “Light which gives light to every man” (John 1:9). He came to be the “light of the world” (John 8:12).
4. Since Jesus is the light of the world... “repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations” (Luke 24:47).
5. In complete congruence with the command rot preach to all the nations, i.e., the world (Luke 24:47)…All men are said to be “invite[d] to the wedding” (Matt 22:9) through the gospel invite in which God degrees us to give to “as many as you find” (Matt 22:9).

God did all the work...there is none without excuse.

but not by way of compulsion
I agree, it is not a compulsion.


Peace to you brother
 
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Greetings brothers. Peace and hope to you in our Lord Jesus Christ.
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It seems to me, in the attempt to make distinctions, that God knows all things knowable. I say "all things knowable" to exclude human nonsense and irrationalism. A good example of what I intend is the introductory example in every philosophy course, that of the 'imagined' married bachelor. The question usually is, could God create a married bachelor?

This imagined concept is nonsense disguised as wisdom. It is a contradiction, an error of thought passed off as something imaginable. Since by definition a bachelor is someone not married, then it is nonsense to suggest that something can be and not be at the same time.

But we dare not fall into the trap and suggest that this is something God cannot create. For it is nonsense from the very beginning of premise one. It is as if I asked, can God kjieine
e einfeienf ifnefiie (which no one should understand).

Likewise, God knows all things knowable.


This 'can God choose to not know something' is interesting. My first blush response to it would be something like what JesusFan replied.

We do know in Hebrews 8:12 it says, "and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more." So there would be a sense in which God remembers no more. But is this "remembering" or is this "counting toward offense remembering". It still doesn't speak to God not knowing before the action, only to God saying He won't remember after the action.

In true comparablist fashion, I'll claim God's complete providence from atemporal eternity AND the God enabled temporal freedom to submit or reject. Neither conflicting with the other. As Genesis 50:20 suggests, both God's will and man's will seem to be done.

(Gen 50:20 NKJV) 20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; [but] God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as [it is] this day, to save many people alive.

Peace to you brothers
I provided three verses that demonstrate God can choose not to know everything imaginable. When Abraham raised his knife to kill his only son, God said "now I know" indicating God chose not to know beforehand. Then, as you cited, God says He can remember no more forever. Clearly this teaches God can choose not to know something He knew before. And then Jesus not knowing the time of His return clearly teaches God can choose not to know everything imaginable.

The issue is what does scripture actually say. What verse says God knows all things imaginable? Lets look at John 21:17, where Peter declares in the inspired text, Jesus knows "all things." But is that what the actual inspired text says? Nope. It says Jesus knows "all" but does not provide the answer to the question "all of what?" In the context, the idea is Jesus knows all about those He interacts with, such as His disciples. But the translation rips "all" out of context, and proclaims "all things imaginable" are in view. This is the basis of the false view of omniscience. See also Genesis 22:11-12 for "now I know."
 

Zaatar71

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On and on, the Calvinists post copy and paste immense amounts of verbiage, citing verse after verse, but signifying nothing.

God's will and desire to save all people is clearly stated in 1 Timothy 2:4, but not by way of compulsion, the false claim of Calvinism. God provided the means of salvation, Christ Jesus, and the access path for salvation, faith in Christ as credited by God. Thus, Christ died as a ransom for all, 1 Timothy 2:6, those to be saved in accordance with God's redemption plan, and those not to be saved in accordance with God's redemption plan, 2 Peter 2:1. Everyone believing in Christ, as determined by God alone, will never perish, but have everlasting life, John 3:16.

This is not rocket science.
Glad you have had a chance to see more than the 6 verse you offer over and over.
 

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I provided three verses that demonstrate God can choose not to know everything imaginable. When Abraham raised his knife to kill his only son, God said "now I know" indicating God chose not to know beforehand. Then, as you cited, God says He can remember no more forever. Clearly this teaches God can choose not to know something He knew before. And then Jesus not knowing the time of His return clearly teaches God can choose not to know everything imaginable.
Thank you Van for providing your wisdom to this thread. Of the three examples you give, I do concede to one that should give pause. The others, not so much.

1. When Abraham raised his knife, God says "now I know".

This seems to be a reasonable verse that one must consider and reconcile.

2. When God says he will remember our sin no more.

This is an after the action example, not like the first. Like I said before, I'm not convinced it means won't remember the action but only the 'sin' (which is transgression). So it seems to me to just as reasonably mean God will not count the offense, it will be wiped clean. If this is the sense that the Scripture intends then it seems not as persuasive regarding your point.

3. Jesus not knowing the time of His return.
This does demonstrate, imo, that God incarnate may, as you say, choose not to know. But I think you would concede that God the Father is not the person of God the Son (One God but three persons). In other words, although we may concede that the Son may have chosen, with God the Father, not to know something at a particular time during Incarnation. That in no way means God the Father does not know. In fact, the Scripture even tells us that only the Father knows while the Son may not. So God still knows.

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Objection V. "It is inconsistent with God's infinite holiness to decree the permission of sin, or to command men to be holy as he is holy, while, by his unalterable purpose, he renders it impossible for them to be holy."

Answer 1. Let our opponents reconcile the actual entrance of sin into the world, and the long continuance and spread of it, among devils and men, with the infinite holiness of an all-wise and almighty God,—and all the pretended inconsistency of his decree of permitting it will evanish of course.
2. Since God's decree of reprobation neither inclines nor forces men to sin, and is very rarely known to any particular person in this world, it is at once extremely uncandid and absurd, repeatedly to contend, that it renders any man sinful or retains him such.

3. Since, notwithstanding God's all-wise and almighty government of the world, there is very much sin in it, it is manifest, that his infinite holiness and nature doth not require him to do his uttermost to prevent it, or the ruin of devils or men by means of it,—though both it and his wisdom require him to glorify himself by means of sin, if it be permitted.

Objection VI. "It is inconsistent with the equity of God to consign innocent persons to eternal damnation, or to impose on men a law, which his own purpose renders him incapable of fulfilling."

Answer 1. God hath not decreed to inflict damnation upon either angels or men, but as the due wages of their sin, Hos 13:9; Ezek 18:4; Rom 2:8-9; Rom 6:23; Rom 8:13; Ps 9:16-17.

2. If, as hath been repeatedly hinted, God neither tempt, incline, nor force men to sin;—nay, if, by his law, he solemnly forbid it, and by his providence deter and dissuade from it, why may he not justly damn men, if they will involve themselves in it?

3. It is highly absurd to imagine, that men's sinful disabling of themselves to obey the law of God deprives him of his right to require their obedience;—that their wickedness strips the Most High of his authority over them, and renders them independent governors of themselves in his room;—that sinful ignorance, perpetual drunkenness, or the like, can render blasphemy, hatred of God or men, murder, whoredom, theft, perjury, etc. altogether innocent, and can free men from all obligation to duty.

Objection VII. "As God can reap no advantage by it, it is shocking to suppose, that he fixed upon any of his rational creatures for the manifestation of his mercy or justice,—or that he made Adam, whose fall he foresaw, men's representative,—or that he brings any of them into being in order to damn them."

Answer 1. Reprobation is in no respect founded upon God's imputation of Adam's first sin to his posterity, but altogether antecedent to it.

2. God's proper end in making men and every thing else was neither their damnation nor salvation, but his own glory. Is this unworthy of him? Rom 11:36; Prov 16:4.

3. If God did not from eternity foresee what multitudes of angels and men would fall into and perish in sin, where was his infinite knowledge, Ps 147:5; Acts 15:18; Isa 46:10? If he foresaw this, and yet created them, as it is certain he hath done, wherein is he a whit more benevolent than the above-described decree of reprobation admits?

4. If the actual entrance of sin and damnation among angels and men be not shockingly unworthy of God, how is it possible that his purpose relative thereto can be so?

Objection VIII. "Men in general are called by God to believe the gospel, and to make sure their election, which necessarily supposes that none of them are irreversibly reprobated."

Answer 1. None but the hearers of the gospel, who are not perhaps the hundredth part of mankind, are called to make sure their election, 2 Pet 1:10; 2 Cor 13:5.

2. God's command to make sure our election, proves that only some, not all men, are elected to everlasting life: For, why labour, with all diligence, to make sure that which is common to every one, as common to their very rational nature?

3. If men's election be suspended on their final perseverance in faith and holiness, as our opponents contend, it cannot be made sure in this life, nor perhaps in that which is to come. Some angels no more persevered in heaven, than Adam did on earth, Jude 6; 2 Pet 2:4.
 

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Objection IX. "If faith and holiness be the conditions of men's eternal salvation; if men's unbelief and impenitence be the conditions of their damnation, they must necessarily be the conditions of that decree which fixes their salvation or damnation."

Answer 1. Faith, repentance, and new obedience, are not proper conditions of our salvation; but proceed from our being united to Christ, and interested in him and his salvation. They are first fruits of that salvation by which we receive and improve begun salvation, and are prepared for complete salvation in heaven, Phil 1:29; Eph 2:10; Rom 7:4; Rom 6:14; Rom 8:2.

2. It is extremely absurd to insist that the causes of a purpose, and the means of executing it, must be the very same. The Jews' murder of Christ was a mean of rendering him our atoning sacrifice. Was it therefore the cause of God's purpose, to set him forth to be our propitiation? Acts 2:23-24; Acts 4:27-28; Heb 2:10; Heb 5:8; Luke 24:26; John 3:16; Rom 5:8; 1 John 4:9-10,19.

Paul's persecuting rage, and Onesimus's theft, were occasional means of their remarkable conversion to Christ. Were they therefore causes of their election to eternal life?
—All things, sins, devils, troubles, etc. work together for believers' spiritual and eternal advantage, Rom 8:28; 2 Cor 4:17. Were therefore sins, devils, and troubles, the causes and conditions of believers' election to spiritual and eternal happiness?
—Can fruit on trees be the cause of their root? or water in cisterns, vessels, or streams, be the cause of the fountain? Reflection. Having thus reviewed the mysterious purposes of Jehovah, think, O my soul! if even the supposed possibility of his having loved me,
—having so early loved me, and thought on me, in my low estate,
—ought not this, in the earliest periods of my life, to have excited and animated me to exercise my utmost care and diligence in improving the gospel method of certainly knowing that these things were so?
—Upon the apprehension of a mere possibility of future existence in this world, what thoughts
,—what cares,
—what labors have I exercised about the concerns of it, from time to time?
—Why then so few, and these so languid, so lifeless, about things of infinitely greater importance?
—things of infinite
—of everlasting consequence?
—But, hath the great, the eternal God, thought,
— always thought on, and loved me! And have I spent so many moments,
—so many hours,
—so many years of my short life,
— without thoughts,
—without high, fixed, and heart-inflaming thoughts of him?
—without love, without superlative love, without an all-subjecting,
—all-assimilating, love to him!
—Hath the infinite Jehovah, with all his heart, chosen me to be his vessel of mercy, his jewel, his portion, his friend, his child, his bride!
—Ought not I, if I had ten thousand hearts,
—ought not I, with them all, to choose Him?
—Choose Him, who is infinite loveliness and love, for my Saviour, my Friend, my Father, My Husband, my God, my All?
—Passing by millions, not one of them worse, did he set me apart for himself! And shall not my soul prefer him to every trifle!
—Whom, my Infinite All, have I in heaven but Thee? what on earth do I,
—dare I, desire besides Thee?
—Hath he, in his persons and perfections, so exerted himself in the establishment of my election,
—my eternal salvation!
— Let me work together with Him, giving all diligence to make my calling and election sure.
—Did he choose me to holiness,
—to love? Let me follow hard after it, as a part, a mean of my eternal felicity.
— Hath his unchangeable purpose infallibly fixed me and my everlasting salvation, in himself!
—Let me be steadfast, immoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.
—But, is there a tremendous purpose of reprobation? Break not through, my soul, unto the Lord to gaze. But, if I be uncertain with respect to my state, let me exceedingly fear and quake.
—Let me escape for my life. Arise, O my sleeping soul!
—cry mightily to thy God, thy offered Savior, that he may think on me, that I perish not. Let me give him no rest, till my salvation go forth as a lamp that burneth; till he say, Fear not, I am with thee; be not dismayed, I am thy God.
—I have loved thee with an everlasting love, and therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.
—But have I, in God's light, perceived, that he hath not appointed me to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ?
—Let me, then, for ever admire,
—for ever adore, his sovereign mercy and grace, that left not me to perish in my sin, when he passed by thousands,
—nay, millions of my brethren in iniquity, whose crimes, he foresaw, would be fewer, and far less aggravated, than mine.
—Many, O Lord my God, are thy gracious thoughts to me ward: they are gone above all thought: when I speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.
 

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CHAPTER 4: Of God's Execution of His Decrees in his Works of Creation and Providence. God's execution of his decrees includes his giving a being to all things in creation, and his upholding and governing that being in providence. His work of creation was chiefly performed by him, without making use of any instruments, in the first six days of time. His work of providence, in which he employs instruments, hath been, is, and constantly will be, carried on through all eternity. As his decrees had no beginning, the execution of them will have no end. I. The world did not exist from eternity. The actual infinity of the duration of matter or any other finite being, is altogether inconceivable. The late invention of useful arts;
—the short reach of history into past periods of but a few thousand years
;—the room on the earth for many more inhabitants, though they have been generally on the increase;
—the remaining heights on the surface of it, notwithstanding they are gradually washed down by the rain, etc. prove that it cannot be eternal. But from Scripture we learn, that it had its beginning little more than 5780 years ago.
—Common sense plainly dictates, that the world could not make itself, or be formed by a fortuitous concourse of atoms. But the Scripture informs us, that God, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, by the word of his power, created all things in six days,
—in the most distinct and orderly manner,
—all very good in themselves, and marvellously fitted to answer their respective ends and their manifold connections, Gen 1-2; Exod 20:11; Exod 31:17; Heb 1:2; Heb 11:3; Prov 3:19; Col 1:16; Rom 11:36; Job 9:8-9; Job 26:10-13; Job 38; Ps 24:1-2; Ps 33:6-9; Ps 95:1-6; Ps 102:25-26; Ps 104:3-6,19,24; Ps 89:11-12; Ps 74:16-17; Ps 8:1-4; Ps 119:73,89-91; Ps 145:8; Ps 146:5-6; Ps 100:3; Ps 148:1-6; Ps 136:5-9; Neh 9:5-6; Prov 30:4; Prov 16:4; Isa 40:12,26; Isa 42:5; Isa 43:5,15,21; Isa 44:24; Isa 45:7,11-12,18; Isa 48:13; Isa 51:12-13; Isa 64:8; Jer 10:11-16; Jer 5:22; Jer 22:5; Jer 31:35; Jer 32:17; Amos 4:12-13; Zech 12:1; John 1:1-3; Acts 17:24-26; Acts 4:24; 1 Pet 4:19; Rev 4:11; Heb 3:4.
—and that angels in heaven, and men upon earth, were the principal creatures which he formed, Job 38:6-7; Ps 103:19 21; Ps 104:4; Gen 1:26-27; Gen 2:7,22; Gen 5:1. Angels, properly so called, are spiritual creatures, which God formed for his particular attendants and ministers, Ps 104:4.
—These hosts of heaven were created during the first six days, Gen 2:1; Exod 20:11. Before that, nothing but absolute eternity had place, Ps 90:2; Prov 8:23-24; Eph 1:4; Matt 25:34.
—It is most probable, that they were created on the first day, as they praised God when he laid the foundations of the earth, Job 38:6-7.
—Being creatures, they must be finite in their faculties, endowments, and presence, Mark 13:32.
— none of them can be in different places at once, Dan 9:21-23; Dan 10:13-14,20.
 

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They are represented as now either in heaven or hell, Matt 18:10; Matt 22:30; 2 Pet 2:4; Jude 6. They are unembodied spirits, endowed by God with a very extensive understanding and an active will. And though they can assume bodies of condensed air, in which they may appear to men, Gen 18:2; Gen 19:1,5; Gen 32:1,
yet no body is ever personally united to their spiritual substance, Ps 104:4; Heb 1:7,14; Eph 6:12; Luke 24:39; Luke 20:35-36; Col 1:16.
—They have a very extensive knowledge, natural, acquired, or revealed, 2 Sam 14:17; 2 Sam 19:27; 1 Cor 13:1-2; 2 Cor 11:5,14; 1 Kings 22:23; Dan 7-12; Zech 1-6; Rev 1:1; Eph 3:10; 1 Tim 3:15; 1 Pet 1:12.
—Their knowledge resembles ours, in their manner of increasing and exercising it:
—and being finite, it never extends to future events which God hath not revealed,
—or to the depths of divine mysteries, Isa 41:22-23,26; Isa 46:10; Mark 13:32; Eph 3:10; 1 Pet 1:12.
—nor to any immediate discernment of men's thoughts or inward dispositions, 1 Kings 8:39; Ps 139:2,4; Prov 16:2; 1 Sam 16:7; Jer 17:10; John 2:25; Acts 1:24; 1 Cor 2:11; Rev 2:23; 1 Chron 28:9; 1 Chron 29:17.
—Their freedom of will, dependent on God, but now fixed with respect to the objects of its choice, is evidently marked in the voluntary obedience of holy angels, and the rebellion of bad ones against God their Maker, Ps 103:20; Matt 6:10; Luke 15:7; 1 Pet 1:12; John 8:44; Jude 6; 2 Pet 2:4; 1 Pet 5:8; 2 Cor 2:11; 2 Cor 11:3; 1 Kings 22:22
.—The greatness of their power is manifest from express declarations of Scripture, Ps 103:20; 2 Thess 1:7; 2 Pet 2:11; Eph 6:12; Rev 18:1-2; from their many mighty exploits,
—as slaying all the firstborn of Egypt in one night, Exod 12:29; Ps 135:8;
—killing seventy thousand Israelites in a few hours, 1 Chron 21:14-15;
—and an hundred and eighty-five thousand valiant Assyrians in one night, 2 Kings 19:35; Isa 37:36; Isa 10:34; 2 Chron 32:21. But it is finite, limited by God, Job 1:12; Job 2:6; Matt 8:31; Rom 8:31
.—and cannot, by any immediate influence, bow men's hearts, Prov 16:1,9; Prov 21:1; Ps 110:3; Deut 30:6; though, by impressions and suggestions, they may much influence their conduct, Eph 2:2; Acts 5:3; Luke 22:3-4; John 13:2,27.
—nor can it perform any thing properly miraculous, Ps 72:18; Ps 86:8; Ps 136:4; Exod 15:11.
Angels are exceedingly numerous, Ps 68:17; Deut 33:2; Matt 26:53; Jude 14; Dan 7:10; Rev 5:11; Mark 5:9.
—Their being called armies, principalities, powers, thrones, dominions, etc. denotes their orderly arrangement, and probably also their difference of rank or station, Gen 2:1; Col 1:16; Col 2:10; 1 Pet 3:22; Eph 1:22; Eph 6:12; Col 2:15. But what their order or ranks are, we know not;
—nor whether the name Archangel be ascribed to any but Christ, 1 Thess 4:16; Jude 9; Dan 12:1; Rev 12:7.
—who is often called an Angel, or the Angel Jehovah, Gen 48:16; Acts 7:30; Isa 63:9; Mal 3:1; Exod 23:20-21; Job 33:23; Gen 16:7,9-11,13; Gen 18:2,17,22; Gen 22:11-12,15-16; Gen 32:24; Hos 12:3-4; Judg 2:1-4; Judg 6:11-12,14,20-23; Judg 13:3,9,13,16-22; Zech 1-6; Rev 7:2; Rev 8:3; Rev 10:1,5,9. All the angels were created in an holy and happy state.

1. The infinite holiness and goodness of God require that every rational being be formed in perfect moral rectitude, unless an incumbent curse, which could not have place here, prevent it, Ps 119:68; Ps 104:31.

2. The finished creation was all very good, Gen 1:31.
—But they were fallible.
—Multitudes of them being chosen by God to be for ever happy in the enjoyment of himself, still retain their original knowledge, righteousness, and holiness, 1 Tim 5:21; Dan 7:10. Matt 26:53; Rev 5:11; Ps 68:17; Deut 33:2; Jude 14; Zech 14:5; Luke 2:13; Heb 12:22; Matt 25:31; Matt 6:10;
—and are confirmed by him in their holy and happy state, Matt 18:10; Matt 22:30; but not in Christ, whose reconciliation by his death they need not, Eph 1:10; Col 1:20; and who is not their Mediator, but man's, Isa 9:6; Zech 9:9; Luke 2:11; 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 9:15; Heb 2:16.
—Though heaven be their peculiar residence, in which they are perfectly blessed in the full and immediate enjoyment of God,
—they are often employed on earth, to execute his purposes, Matt 6:10; Matt 18:10; Heb 1:14; Ps 34:7.
— Their work is,
1. To worship God in high praises, suited to their nature and state, Ps 148:2; Ps 103:20-21; Isa 6:3; Heb 1:6; Luke 2:14; Rev 5:11.

2. To minister to, attend upon, and serve Jesus Christ as Mediator, Zech 1-6; Matt 4:11; Luke 22:43; Luke 2:10,13; Dan 7:10; Ps 68:17; Ps 47:5-6; 1 Tim 3:16; Acts 1:10; Phil 2:9-10; 1 Pet 3:22; Rev 1:1; Rev 22:16; Heb 1:14.

3. To minister to,—protect, admonish, deliver, instruct, rejoice over, comfort, and transport to heaven, the saints, and to separate them from the wicked at the last day, Heb 1:14; Ps 34:7; Ps 91:11; Gen 19:12-13; Gen 32:1; Acts 12:7-10; 1 Kings 19:5; Gen 24:7,40; Acts 10:5; Dan 7-12; Zech 1:9-14; Zech 2:3-4; Acts 27:23-24; Luke 15:10; Luke 16:22; Matt 13:41; Matt 24:31.

4. To restrain and punish the wicked, Dan 10:20; Gen 19:11; Exod 12:39; 2 Sam 24:15-16; 2 Kings 19:35; Acts 12:23; Ps 35:5-6.
—But it doth not appear, that every particular saint hath a particular guardian angel, but angels in general, as directed by God, attend them, Ps 34:7; Heb 1:14.
 

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Nor will the Jews' notion of a guardian angel, if they had it, or an angel attending an apostle, be any proof, Acts 12:15. But many angels, abusing the freedom of their will, by pride or some other sin, quickly fell from that holy and happy state in which they were created, 2 Pet 2:4; Jude 6; 1 Tim 3:6.
—They are real persons, not horrors of conscience.

1. Personal qualities, as wiles, subtilty, devising, etc. are ascribed to them, Eph 6:11-12; 2 Cor 2:11; 2 Cor 11:3,14.

2. They tempt, lie in wait for, and destroy men, Gen 3:1-8; 1 Kings 22:22-23; Matt 4:1-10; 1 Pet 5:8; John 8:44; James 4:7; 1 Cor 7:5; Zech 3:1-3; Ps 109:6.
3. They believe the existence of God, and tremble at it,—and shall be eternally punished, James 2:19; Matt 8:29; Matt 25:41.

—Their punishment began with the first moment of their sinning, in their being expelled [from] heaven and shut up in chains of darkness; but they were not so confined to hell, as to hinder their acting on earth, 2 Pet 2:4; Jude 6; 1 Kings 22:22-23; Job 1:7-12; Job 2:2-7; Ps 78:49; Matt 4:1-10; Matt 8:29,31; Matt 16:18; Eph 6:11 12,16; 2 Cor 2:11; 2 Cor 11:3,14; Luke 10:18; Rev 12:7-9; Rev 20:1-9.
— It was increased by the incarnation, public ministrations, and death of Christ, by the spread of the gospel, and the erection of the Christian church, Gen 3:15; Col 2:15; Heb 2:14; 1 John 3:8; Matt 12:43; and will be completed at the last day, Matt 25:41; Matt 8:29; Rev 20:10,14.
—In this world, these fallen angels, or devils, exert themselves to their utmost,

1. In taking away the truths of God's word from men, particularly in hearing the gospel, Mark 4:15.

2. In tempting, accusing, and molesting the saints, Matt 16:23; 1 Cor 7:5; 2 Cor 2:10-11; 2 Cor 11:3,14; Luke 22:31; Rev 12:9-10; Zech 3:1-3; 1 Thess 2:18; 2 Cor 12:7; 1 Pet 5:8; Rev 2:10; Rev 12:7.

3. In seducing the wicked, and retaining them in their corrupt and miserable estate, John 13:2,27; Acts 5:3; Matt 12:43.
—leading them into error and delusion, 2 Cor 4:3-4; 2 Thess 2:9-10; Rev 20:3,8,10.

—or entering into familiar fellowship with them, Exod 22:18. Lev 19:31; Lev 20:6,27; Deut 13:1; Deut 18:10-11,14; Isa 8:19,21; Exod 7:11-12,22; Exod 8:7,18; Num 24:1; 1 Sam 28:7-9.

4. In entering into men's bodies to render them delirious, furious, etc. 1 Sam 16:14; Matt 4:25; Matt 9:32; Matt 12:22; Matt 15:22; Matt 17:15. Nor,

5. Do we know what influence they have in raising storms, producing diseases, etc. Eph 2:2; Job 1:19; Job 2:7. Mankind was the other more excellent class of God's creatures, in which the angelical and animal natures were marvellously united, Gen 2:7; Eccles 12:7. Adam and Eve were the first of this class, and parents of all the rest, Acts 17:26; 1 Cor 15:45; Rom 5:12; Gen 2; Gen 5; Gen 10; 1 Chron 1
.—The parts of their nature were,

1. An erect body of unparalleled comeliness, formed to point them out as lords of this lower world, under God, and qualified for the contemplation of heavenly things, Ps 139:14-15; Eccles 12:2-4; Isa 64:8; Gen 2:7,22. —

2. A rational soul, one of which is united to every human body, Heb 4:12; 1 Thess 5:23; Gen 2:7; Matt 10:28; Matt 16:26; 1 Cor 6:20; Zech 12:1; Ps 22:20; Ps 35:3; Ps 19:7; Ps 25:1.
—It is not in any respect corporeal, but spiritual, Eccles 12:7; Isa 57:16; Luke 24:39; Matt 10:28; Acts 17:29.
—It is only in a figurative manner, that it is represented as seen, or as having hands, a tongue, or the like. Human souls are not generated by parents, but immediately created by God.

1. The souls of Adam and Eve were not formed of dust, but immediately created by God, Gen 2:7.

2. God alone is represented as the father or former of souls, Eccles 12:7; Isa 57:16; Ps 33:15; Zech 12:1; Heb 12:9; Num 16:22; Acts 17:28-29.

3. Souls cannot perish along with generated bodies, Matt 10:28; 1 Cor 15:42,53; Luke 12:20; Acts 7:59-60.—

4. Souls being indivisible, parents cannot communicate any part of theirs to their children in begetting them

.— In Gen 46:26, and many other places, souls are put for human persons, including both soul and body; or for the body, Gen 46:22; Lev 19:28.—Nor can souls die with their bodies, but are immortal.
1. Being not constituted of parts, they are naturally incapable of dissolution, Matt 10:28.

2. Though their capacities be very extensive, they make small improvements in this life, Prov 30:2-3; Ps 73:22; Phil 3:12. 1 Cor 13:12.

3. Men, chiefly saints, have a great desire after immortality, Luke 2:25-30; 2 Cor 5:1-8; 2 Cor 4:17-18; Phil 1:23.

4. God's justice requires the immortality of souls, that they may be punished, or rewarded, in a future state, Eccles 3:16-17.

5. Scripture represents souls as surviving those bodies with which they had been personally united, Matt 10:28; Eccles 12:7; Luke 23:43,46; Luke 16:22-23; Acts 7:59-60; Gen 2:7; 1 Cor 15:45; 1 Cor 15:18-19; 1 Pet 3:19; Rev 6:11; Matt 22:32; 2 Cor 5:1-8; Phil 1:21,23.

6. One soul is of inexpressibly more importance than the whole world, Matt 16:26:

—It is only in respect of their body, that men's death is like to that of beasts, or renders them incapable to know things, or to praise God, Eccles 3:17,20; Eccles 9:5; Ps 30:9; Ps 115:17; Isa 38:18.

—But, this immortal soul continues closely united to one person with its body, while it is capable of being its residence, Job 4:19; 2 Cor 5:1; Phil 1:23; 2 Pet 1:14; Acts 20:10.
 

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Man was created after the image of God, in spiritual knowledge, righteousness, and holiness, his mind duly discerning every proper object, and his conscience, will, and affections awing or inclining him to perform every part of duty towards God or his fellow-creatures, Eccles 7:29; Gen 1:26-27; Gen 5:1; Col 3:10; Eph 4:24.
—Even since the fall, men somewhat resemble God in the spirituality, intelligence, and immortality of their souls, Gen 9:6; James 3:9.

But nothing of that original moral wisdom, righteousness, and holiness, in which the image of God properly consisted, is to be found in them, till it be restored in regeneration, Rom 3:23; Rom 8:7-8; Eph 5:8; Eph 2:1-3; Eph 4:23; Col 3:10; Col 2:11; 2 Cor 5:17; 2 Cor 3:18; Acts 26:18; 1 Pet 1:23; 2 Pet 1:4.

—This moral conformity to God, though not essential to, or inseparable from, man's soul, is called natural, as it was concreated with, and in him, agreeable to his nature, necessary to answer God's end in making it, and to be conveyed along with it in the propagation of mankind, Gen 1:31; Eccles 7:29.

—And the remaining resemblance of our soul to God in respect of its spiritual substance and agency is still natural, Rom 2:14; Rom 1:20; Gen 9:6; 1 Cor 11:7.

—But our evil concupiscence, not being from God, cannot be natural in the primary meaning of that word,

—though our nature be now infected with it, in its very formation

.—Having this moral image of God concreated with his whole soul, Adam had full ability to have believed on Christ, if he could have been exhibited to him in his innocent state, Eccles 7:29. And it is by this very image of God, imperfectly restored in them, that the elect are qualified to believe on, and receive Christ, in the day of his power, Eph 4:24; Col 3:10.

As God is immortal in, and of himself, 1 Tim 1:17; 1 Tim 6:16; Isa 57:15; and angels and human souls are immortal in, but not of themselves,

—man was at first created without any tendency toward the separation of his soul from his body, or any tendency of his body towards death, as the means of that separation. Adam's body, though made of dust, and capable of becoming mortal, had no seeds of death in it. And hence death, in Scripture, is alway represented as the fruit and wages of sin, Rom 5:12; Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 15:21,56; Ezek 18:4; Gen 2:17; Gen 3:19; Job 24:19; John 8:44.
—At his creation, man was constituted lord of all other creatures on earth
—to manifest which, all the animals, by God's direction, repaired to him, and received their names from him, Ps 8:6-7; Gen 1:28; Gen 2:19-20. But whether in that state, he had any allowance to kill any of them for food, we know not.
—Immediately after the fall, animals were slain for sacrifices typical of Christ, the promised Saviour. But, till after the flood, we never find men warranted by God to eat their flesh, Gen 3:21; Gen 4:4; Gen 9:3-4.
—But as spirituality of nature is retained by devils and unregenerate souls, and an immutable immortality of body awaits damned men after the resurrection,—and dominion over this lower world is partly retained by wicked men,
—it is manifest, that the image of God, in which man was created, did not properly consist in these, but in moral perfection, Eph 4:24; Col 3:10; 2 Cor 3:18.
 

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God's work of creation is to be improved in contemplating, as we have access, his creatures, in their almost infinitely diversified natures, qualities, and uses: as, light and celestial luminaries, in their mysterious nature, extensive range, fit distances, rapid motion, and powerful influence

:—Air, fixed and unfixed, inflammable and uninflammable; in its fluidity, weight, elasticity, and usefulness:

— Water, in its fluidity, plenitude, dispersion, saltness or freshness, penetration, and fitness for the formation of rains, dews, marine productions, and promoting of trade:
—Earths, stones, metals, moulds, in their adhesion, divisibility, forms, colours, and uses:
— Vegetables, in their structure, growth, curious parts, manifold uses, and almost infinitely diversified forms:
—Animals, in their curious parts, their connected structure, life, dependence on food, motions, instincts, fitness for self-preservation, beautiful forms, melodious or awful sounds, exquisite but diversified taste:
—and along with these, the unbounded divisibility of matter, laws of attraction, gravitation, electricity, magnetism, and of air, fixed and unfixed, muscular motion, nervous influence;
—rational spirits, in their power of thinking, willing, recollecting, sociality or union with bodies, as proofs of the existence and manifestations of the mysterious nature and manifold perfections of God, even our God in Christ, Rom 11:36.

2. In viewing them as memorials of the operations of God, and as heart-awing means of impressing our minds with his presence, observation, and influence, Jer 32:27; Ps 75.

3. In viewing multitudes of creatures, as instituted emblems for representing the Most High, in his persons, perfections, stations, relations, and operations, in the work of our redemption, Hos 12:9-10.

4. In considering all creatures as formed in order to, and fit for subserving God's principal and most glorious work of redemption, Rom 8:28.

5. In taking out a particular new-covenant claim to them all in Christ, as means of our present discernment of the glory, and tasting the goodness of God in him, and as pledges and earnests of our eternal enjoyment of him as our all in all, 1 Cor 3:21-23; Rev 21:17.

6. In, as a consequence of all this, using them as means of exciting us to an habitual meditation on, admiring, adoring, and praising him as our own God and portion, and living to his glory in this world as his lower temple or sanctuary, Ps 104:1-34; Ps 148.

7. In a due regard to all creatures, as the fellow production of God, even our God.
 
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