The ugly truth behind Obama's war on the Second Amendment

[Revmitchell]

There is no clinical definition of insanity only a legal one. In order to be insane one would have to not be able to tell what they were doing wrong.

 

[TCassidy]

 

[Reynolds]

There is a huge difference between the clinical definition of insanity and the legal definition of insanity. The legal definition only requires the person to know what he is doing is wrong.

Insanity defense is always interesting. Ted Kaczynski pled guilty to keep from being declared insane. Would not all Islamic terrorists be legally insane? They know what they are doing is illegal, but they do not know it is wrong. In fact, they believe it to be morally just and good.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Really? The worst mass murder in US History? December 29, 1890, near Wounded Knee Creek on the Lakota Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota, 151 men, women, and children were slaughtered.

Why don't you include them? Isn't their skin white enough for the lefties?

Quit insulting those with different views. Anyway, I'm not a lefty just a genuine Christian. The Wounded Knee massacre was carried out by the U.S. army. If you want to include mass killings by the armed forces and the CIA, I will retract my statement. They've been responsible for far worse atrocities than the Las Vegas masacre including the near genocide of the Indian population in America.

 

[FollowTheWay]

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If guns are so great what about small nuclear weapons, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missles, weapons zed drones, chemical weapons,......?

 

[Revmitchell]

If guns are so great what about small nuclear weapons, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missles, weapons zed drones, chemical weapons,......?

And this statement shows you do not understand the issue.

 

[SheepWhisperer]

Quit insulting those with different views. Anyway, I'm not a lefty just a genuine Christian. The Wounded Knee massacre was carried out by the U.S. army. If you want to include mass killings by the armed forces and the CIA, I will retract my statement. They've been responsible for far worse atrocities than the Las Vegas masacre including the near genocide of the Indian population in America.

If you believe that(as you should) would you rather all weapons were in the hands of the government? What's your point in all this?
"Followtheway", Guns are low on my list of important things. If I could wave a magic wand to make all firearms (and every other weapon), including my own, disappear forever, I would do it right now. But that's a fantasy that will never happen. There will always be evil and aggression in this sin-cursed world and this is why governments have militaries. Likewise, citizens have the right to protect themselves as well.

 

[777]

Insanity defense is always interesting. Ted Kaczynski pled guilty to keep from being declared insane. Would not all Islamic terrorists be legally insane? They know what they are doing is illegal, but they do not know it is wrong. In fact, they believe it to be morally just and good.

No, Ted didn't think he was insane and he wouldn't let his court-appointed attorneys even try the insanity route. They wanted to, to avoid the death penalty, then Ted jumped at that plea bargain.

You are talking about the old M'Naghten rule - if you know an act is legally wrong, that's enough:

https://www.lawteacher.net/cases/insanity-cases.php

He killed his wife with an overdose, then commented to the police that they would hang him for that - that showed that he knew the murder was illegal even though he had a severe mental illness.

 

[Reynolds]

No, Ted didn't think he was insane and he wouldn't let his court-appointed attorneys even try the insanity route. They wanted to, to avoid the death penalty, then Ted jumped at that plea bargain.

You are talking about the old M'Naghten rule - if you know an act is legally wrong, that's enough:

https://www.lawteacher.net/cases/insanity-cases.php

He killed his wife with an overdose, then commented to the police that they would hang him for that - that showed that he knew the murder was illegal even though he had a severe mental illness.

You oversimplify Ted. There was absolutely no question that he knew what he did was illegal. The extreme lengths he took to avoid detection was proof that he knew his acts were illegal. His attorneys and the judge tried to force the insanity defense on him.

 

[TCassidy]

If guns are so great what about small nuclear weapons, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missles, weapons zed drones, chemical weapons,......?

What part of the word "bear" (carry) don't you understand?

 

[TCassidy]

I'm not a lefty just a genuine Christian.

So, are you insinuating those who disagree with you are not "genuine Christians?"

 

[FollowTheWay]

What part of the word "bear" (carry) don't you understand?

All the weapons I talked about can be hand carried. A nuclear device can be made that will fit into a suitcase. Anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles can be shoulder mounted and hand carried. What part of the conditional clause in the Second Amendment (A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ...) do you not understand? Why is it there if not to restrict the bearing of arms to a militia?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Quit insulting those with different views. Anyway, I'm not a lefty just a genuine Christian. The Wounded Knee massacre was carried out by the U.S. army. If you want to include mass killings by the armed forces and the CIA, I will retract my statement. They've been responsible for far worse atrocities than the Las Vegas masacre including the near genocide of the Indian population in America.

Quit insulting those with different views. Said the dude who doesn’t think anyone who beats him in an argument is saved.

It is to laugh.

 

[FollowTheWay]

So, are you insinuating those who disagree with you are not "genuine Christians?"

I still believe in the bedrock Baptist principle "Priesthood of the Believer" and have found that what I used to consider political beliefs are based on my faith and are faithful to the Bible. Everyone else is free to do the same.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Quit insulting those with different views. Said the dude who doesn’t think anyone who beats him in an argument is saved.

It is to laugh.

I have never said that and don't believe that. You have said that.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Oh you did. Did a little dance around it, as Ill-informed cowards always do, but yes. You did.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I still believe in the bedrock Baptist principle "Priesthood of the Believer" and have found that what I used to consider political beliefs are based on my faith and are faithful to the Bible. Everyone else is free to do the same.

Like this one. Only a coward would post this.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Like this one. Only a coward would post this.

So you don't believe that Baptists have the right and responsibility to define their own faith? Mueller agrees with you in his requirement for a creed that must be signed to teach at the SBTS or serve as a minister. I'm not talking about major items of faith but about minor differences which divide us but aren't that important.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Anywho, I refuse to have a battle of the wits with an unarmed man.

You are free to indulge your delusions. Have a nice weekend.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So you don't believe that Baptists have the right and responsibility to define their own faith? Mueller agrees with you in his requirement for a creed that must be signed to teach at the SBTS or serve as a minister. I'm not talking about major items of faith but about minor differences which divide us but aren't that important.

I like fried chicken.