What did Obama do? This information is correct BTW.
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The ugly truth behind Obama's war on the Second Amendment
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Sapper Woody
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They're not. Felonies, domestic abuse, and some mental disorders disqualify people from buying a gun.
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Read the op.
I wouldn't be so sure. You have many other things wrong, so there is a high probability that you are wrong about that too.
All licensed gun dealers are required to run background checks at gun shows. Anyone who tells you differently is either lying or misinformed. Yes, I've purchased a pistol at a gun show and I had to do the background check.
The so-called "gun show loophole" is simply a private sale - that has nothing to do with gun show or any of its agents or licensed dealers - that happen to take place on the premises of a gun show. Most private sales are not made at gun shows. Much has been made of the alleged "loophole" to dishonestly paint a gun show as a free-for-all where criminals and terrorist can buy weapons. In my experience, everyone who talks about that alleged loophole doesn't know what they are talking about (they have been misled), or they won't admit that they are repeating a lie.
In Texas, a felon can have a single long gun in the home for protection after a certain amount of time after release (although I'm not sure if they are allow to actually purchase it themselves). I don't happen to know for sure what the time is, but it used to be either two or five years after release. Persons who have a documented history of domestic abuse are not allowed to purchase firearms.
I'm on your side, Alcott. As I said, I was attempting to add, not detract.
For FTW: if we're not going to allow people with "mental problems" to purchase guns, why would we allow them the opportunity to use a 2,000-3,000 pound projectile instead? It's already been shown that people will use vehicles to plow into crowds, injuring and killing many. Why aren't we advocating stricter vehicle licensing laws?
evidence this is nothing more than DNC talking points
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SheepWhisperer
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First of all, let me try to educate you a little. The vast majority of all "AK47" and "AR15" type firearms owned by US citizens are NOT fully automatic and not "assault" weapons. They only fire once with each trigger-pull, exactly like dove-hunting shotguns, semi-auto deer rifles and .22's do. The relative few which are fully automatic are either owned by the government or by law-abiding citizens under a special(and very expensive) license and background checks.
Second, IF your statistics are true , people in other countries who have little access to firearms are committing their murders with knives, machetes, IED's, vehicles etc etc. The sweet little "religion of peace" Muslim "refugees" who attacked the Boston Marathon, did it with pressure-cooker bombs. You want to outlaw pressure cookers too?
Third, we DO have background checks, which ONLY restrict law-abiding citizens. Let me ask you this: if we can't keep Mexicans from smuggling drugs into our country, how in the name of common sense do you think we will prevent criminals from smuggling guns too, AFTER the whining liberals take them away from law-abiding citizens? I will answer that question for you: we won't.
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Fact is it doesn't matter what other countries are doing. We own guns and have a constitutional right to own guns because of the founding of this country. when governments want to take control of people they do so only by an unarmed citizenry. In this country we own guns largely so that government is kept in check.
The answer to people misusing guns is not getting rid of them it is dealing with the people who misuse them. Those who want to ignore the people issue and focus on the gun issue rightly gain suspicion of those who find the founding of this country important.
I trust no one who wants to get rid of guns. Its just not honest.
The answer to people misusing guns is not getting rid of them it is dealing with the people who misuse them. Those who want to ignore the people issue and focus on the gun issue rightly gain suspicion of those who find the founding of this country important.
I trust no one who wants to get rid of guns. Its just not honest.
Getting rid of guns : Ain't gonna happen!!
THE second amendment - Second after the most import - freedom of speech, expression, grievance.
The nation will go down in flames before the unmasked communist can even come close to accomplishing this mission to take away our firearms.
Unmasked - yes - the actions of (some, many, most, all - pick your adjective) progressive liberals has unmasked them especially by their expressions of hatred of our patriotic, pro-police, pro-military, pro-flag, pro-anthem pro-life pro-Bill of Rights anti-establishment outsider, in-your-face president who won't be quiet and/or shut up his twittering no matter how they try to intimidate him.
HankD
THE second amendment - Second after the most import - freedom of speech, expression, grievance.
The nation will go down in flames before the unmasked communist can even come close to accomplishing this mission to take away our firearms.
Unmasked - yes - the actions of (some, many, most, all - pick your adjective) progressive liberals has unmasked them especially by their expressions of hatred of our patriotic, pro-police, pro-military, pro-flag, pro-anthem pro-life pro-Bill of Rights anti-establishment outsider, in-your-face president who won't be quiet and/or shut up his twittering no matter how they try to intimidate him.
HankD
Sapper Woody
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Does anyone remember the Happy Land Fire of 1990? 87 people died in a case of arson. A mass murder happened, and the weapon was fire.
But, you didn't hear anyone calling for a ban on fire.
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But, you didn't hear anyone calling for a ban on fire.
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I'm not talking about taking away all firearms. I'm talking about outlawing semi-automatic and automatic (used in the terrorist attack in Las Vegas) and performing better background checks. Today in many states there are no background checks at gun shows or for guns bought over the internet. To my knowledge, semi-automatic weapons have only be used in mass murders.
My grandfather was a great hunter and fisherman in KY. My mother was an excellent shot and even though her father told her not to try she would regularly beat the men at turkey shoots. My Dad went hunting and almost had an accident when he dropped his gun climbing a fence and it went off. (not the right way to do it). Because of that he spooked my brother and I about guns. He also got thrown into a pond by some bullies when he was young and almost drowned and for a while I was afraid of the water. But I got over that and because a good but not fast swimmer. At one point I could swim 1 1/2 miles and now can still go a mile even at my "advanced age." I used to camp in a tent a lot but haven't done that in a while but should do that again. I love the outdoors and especially the mountains.
I'm simply calling for introducing some sanity into the way we ensure a safer gun environment in America.
This is like guns checks. There are ways around the restriction.
Convicted Felons Buy Guns With Ease
Convicted Felons Illegally Buying Guns
In the video, the clerk is told that the man who wants to buy the gun is a convicted felon, making the sale of a firearm illegal. It is illegal for convicted felons to own guns anywhere in the US.
"I like this one," the undercover agent says, pointing to one of the guns. "Its $200," says the clerk.
The ATF informant and undercover agent then devise what's called a "straw" purchase scam where the man posing as a felon has his girlfriend buy the gun. The whole process – which is also illegal - takes less than two minutes.
"What about her; can she do it," the informant asks, pointing to the other undercover agent who is a woman. "She can do it," the clerk says.
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I know someone in ILL. who is on Medicare Mental disability and an abusive husband (police have been called about incidents and handcuffed him) who can walk into a gun shop and buy a gun.
AR-15 style “assault rifles are never used in self-defense and should be outlawed as they used to be until the NRA flexed it's control over the GOP.
1. Federally licensed gun sellers are required to run background checks. But not all sellers are required to be licensed. Some of those unlicensed sellers sell at gun shows.
Federal law requires that persons who are engaged in the business of dealing in firearms be licensed by the federal government. Obama’s goal with his new plan is to tighten the screws on who is included in that group.
Announced Jan. 5, Obama’s plan requires those in the business of dealing in firearms -- including sellers at stores, gun shows and on the Internet -- get a license. Once they’re licensed, they are required to conduct background checks on all buyers.
But private sellers without a federal license don’t have to meet the same requirement. Though this exception is often referred to as the "gun show loophole," it actually applies more broadly to unlicensed individuals, whether they are selling at a gun show or somewhere else. (Some states have implemented their own background check requirement beyond federal law.)
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You have no idea what you are talking about
In the marathon bombing that was done with a pressure cooker. No one called for more control of pressure cookers.
Stick to the point. Why do private citizens need silencers? Someone said to protect their hearing. Bogus. What about simply wearing ear muffs?
Let me educate you. Fully automatic weapons were used in the terrorist attack in Las Vegas.
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