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Theotokos? or TheoNOTokos! - Sedi Sapientiae? or Sedi SERPENTiae! - Roman Raiders of the Ark

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  1. One Baptism

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    You are "Victory123" then here? - http://motheofgod.com/threads/signs.7937/page-222

    You are then the same "Victory123" then, here - https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/end...cerning-mother-miriyam-mary-theotoko-t10.html

    You are the same "MyCupOverFlows (Banned)", here - https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=81021&pid=1362635

    If so, when Copy/Pasting, reformat your work so I and others do not have to scroll through endless space between partial sentences. It is incoherent. God is a God order and orderliness, timing and sequence.

    I do not mean that you have many posts, I mean that your posts are unformatted in each post, and no one is going to bother to read any of it that way.

    Let me know when you have read my material from the beginning of the OP to the last, and what you would like to discuss therein.
     
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    It has been said:


    A non-primary source with shorthand notation references is not "a fabrication"; just more difficult to retrace to a primary source) from Christian Edwardon's "Facts of Faith", page 297, see:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Is4TSSfGsC8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

    https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/945.2014?hl=

    Same in other non-primary sources, sometimes with "Quanto", and sometimes with a misspelling "Tranlatic" (which means nothing):

    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q="The+pope+has+power+to+change+times"

    See:

    Decretal. (Decretales Domini Papae Gregorii Noni [IX]), [A papal decree of 'Lord' 'pope' Gregory IX]
    de Translat. (de Translatione) [of transfering/transference]
    Episcop. (Episcoporum) [(of) Bishops]
    Cap. (Capitulum) [Chapter]
    [lib. i. tit. 6.] (Liber (extra). 1, Titulus. 6 (John Foxe) (sometimes seen as '7')) [Book 1, Title 6, or '7']
    3. [3rd chapter] (Corpus Juris Canonice (2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), col. 99; (Paris, 1612), tom. 2, Decretales, col. 205.) - http://thefutureevent.com/nsl.htm
    "Quanto" [How (method)]

    See (Pages 108 (right hand Column, Liber I. Titulus VII (7), Chapter III. "Quanto") - 109) - http://digital.library.ucla.edu/canonlaw/librarian?ITEMPAGE=CJC2_B01&PREV

    See (search by "Quanto", should be last option in search) - https://books.google.com/books?id=SqNMvqxqac8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

    See:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=H...MXAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA159&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

    "The Acts and Monuments of John Foxe

    All the earth is my diocese; and I the ordinary of all men, having the authority of the King of all kings upon subjects. I am all in all, and above all, so that God himself, and I the vicar of God, have both one consistory,190 and I am able to do almost all that God can do, 'clave non errante!'191 Item, It is said of me that I have a heavenly arbitrement,192 and therefore am able to change the nature of things, 'substantialia unius applicando alteri,' and of nothing to make things to be; and of a sentence that is nothing, to make it stand in effect; in all things that I list, my will to stand for reason: for I am able by the law to dispense above the law, and of wrong to make justice, in correcting laws and changing them.

    You have heard hitherto sufficiently out of my doctors. Now you shall hear greater things out of mine own decrees. Read there dist. 96. cap.7. 'Satis.' 193 Also Caus. 11. q. 1. cap. 41. 'Sacerdotibus. 194 Also Caus. 12. q. 1. cap. 15. 'Futuram.' 195 Do not you find there expressed, how Constantine the emperor, sitting in the general council at Nice, called us prelates of the church all 'gods'? Again, read my canon decretal, De transl. episc. cap. 'Quanto.' 196 Do you not see there manifestly expressed, how not man, but God alone separateth that which the bishop of Rome doth dissolve and separate? Wherefore, if those things that I do, be said to be done not of man, but of God ; what can you make me but God? aa Again, if prelates of the church be called and counted of Constantine for gods, I then, being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore no marvel, if it be in my power to change time and times, to alter and abrogate laws, to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ:± for, where Christ biddeth Peter put up his sword, and admonished his disciples not to use any outward force in revenging themselves, do not I, Pope Nicholas, writing to the bishops of France, exhort them to draw out their material swords in pursuing their enemies, and recovering their possessions; setting against the precept of Christ, the prophet saying, "Dissolve colligationes impietatis!" &c.197[Isa 58:6 ... to loose the bands of wickedness ...]

    (188) Gloss, in caus. 11. q. 3. c. 14. 'Absit.'
    (189) Gloss, in caus. 11. q. 3. 'Si inimicus.'
    (190) Hostiensis [Henricus de Segusia] in c. 'Quanto de transl. praeb.' [Lectura ad Decretales, I. vii. 3: "Consistorium Dei et papae unum et idem est censendum."] See below also.
    (191) Ex summa casuum fratris Baptista.
    (192) Ex Citatione Henr. Bulling, de fine Seculi. orat. prima. [1st sermon pgs. 55-56]+
    Item, ex Citatione Jacobi Andreas, adversus Hossum, lib. v.
    Item, ex Citatione Hier. Marii in actis [secundi Diei, p. 180: Causa xvii. q. 4. c. 30.]
    (193) Pope Nicolaus, Dist. 96. c. 7 'Satis.'
    (194) [Causa] 11. q. 41. 'Sacerdotibus.'
    (195) [Causa] 12. q. l. ' Futurum.'

    (196) Decretal. [Greg. IX.] de Transl. [lib. i. tit. 6.] c. 3. 'Quanto.'
    (aa) Thus you may see it verified, that St. Paul prophesieth, of the adversary sitting in the temple as God and boasting himself above all that is named God, &c. 2 Thess. 11.
    (197) Pope Nicolaus, Causa 15, q. 6. c. 'Autoritatem.'

    — The Acts and Monuments of John Foxe, Volume 4, Part 1, 1856, by John Foxe (1516-1587), pgs. 159-160.

    ...

    ± Note carefully that this is John Foxe expressing in his words the likely thoughts of the pope out loud. It is not a direct papal quote, but a synthesis of the extrapolated meaning of the referenced documents found in canon law as listed. Essentially the same information and similar wording is found in Illustrations of Popery: The "Mystery of Iniquity" Unveiled: J. P. Callendar, 1838, pgs. 209-210. This is frequently misquoted and attributed to "Decretal. de Tranlatic Episcop Cap". In Quanto personam, Pope Innocent III actually asserts that only the Roman Pontiff has the power to transfer and separate bishops. It was a letter addressed to five bishops in Germany regarding Conrad of Querfurt, a bishop who had transferred himself, without papal permission, from Hildesheim (Hildesemensis) to Würzburg (Herbipolensis). The key sentence, in which divine authority to govern the church in such matters is claimed solely for the Bishop of Rome, reads:

    Non enim homo, sed Deus separat, quos Romanus Pontifex (qui non puri hominis, sed veri Dei vicem gerit in terris) ecclesiarum necessitate vel utilitate pensata, non humana, sed divina potius auctoritate dissolvit.

    God, not man, separates [a bishop from his Church] because the Roman Pontiff does not exercise the office of a man, but of the true God on earth, carefully considering the need and usefulness of each translation, he dissolves the bond by divine rather than by human authority.

    See 196 above. Also, the placement of footnotes above has been changed from the original, from leading to trailing, for clarity. " - http://biblelight.net/Extravagantes.htm
     
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    Summary. 1. Is of so great dignity and highness, so that is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God. - 2. Pope is of such lofty and supreme dignity that, properly speaking, is not in the positions of dignity, but rather upon the very summit of dignities is set. - 3. The Pope is the Father of fathers.

    12. Is likewise the divine monarch, and supreme emperor, and king of kings. - 13. Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown as king of heaven, earth and under the earth. - 14. Indeed, of the Roman Pontiff and the power of the excellence of that, not only to heavenly things, earthly and infernal, but also over the angels, of which he himself is the greater.

    16. Is of so great dignity and power, that he forms one and the same tribunal with Christ.

    18. When we come to the authority of the Pope, the Pope is as it were God on earth, beings of Christ 's the prince, the king of the greatest of all the kings, containing the fullness of power, to whom both the earthly and the government of the empire from the coelstis omniptente been committed to God.

    23. From this point I to commonly received ideas he teaches, that Popes should have jurisdiction of both of the sword, the spiritual, of course, and the temporal.

    30. Is of so great authority and power, so that it can even divine laws to modify, declare, or interpret, as Art. 31. - [Empty]

    1. Is of so great dignity and highness, that there may be mere man, but the vicar of God as if God ...

    3. Hence the Pope is the same as the Father of fathers, as is noted to the Gloss. It is commonly received in the Foreword

    4. Clement., For. The Pope.

    13. Hence the Pope is crowned with three crowns, as if the King of heaven and earth, and under the earth;

    14. Indeed, the excellence of the Roman Pontiff and the power of that, not only to heavenly things, earthly and infernal, but also over the angels, of which he himself is the greater;

    16. For so great is the dignity and power, that he forms one and the same tribunal with Christ,

    18. When we come, then, to the authority of the Pope; the Pope is God on earth, as it were, one of Christ 's the prince, the king of the greatest of all the kings, containing the fullness of power, to whom the earthly and heavenly at the same time the helm of the empire by the Almighty God were committed to, insofar as it is clearly established in the can.

    Ut sicut Beatus Petrus in terris vicarius Filii Dei fuit constitutus, ita et Pontifices eius successores

    As the blessed Peter in the vicar of the Son of God on earth was appointed, so the Pontiffs his successors, and

    “... 30. Papa tantae est auctoritatis et potestatis, ut possit quoque leges divinas modificare, declarare, vel interpretari … Hinc dicimus, quod Papa potest contra legem divinam aliquando venire limitando, declarando, etc., … Papa ius divinum potest modificare, cum eius potestas non sit ex homine, sex ex Deo, et in terris Dei vices fungitur cum amplissima potestate oves suas ligandi et solvendi … Papa potest interpretari, et ex causa limitare ius divinum, ut tradunt communiter omnes …” [pg. 45] -

    "" "... 30. Is of so great authority and power, so that it can even divine laws to modify, declare, or interpret ... Hence it is said, that the pope, can be said against the divine law by limiting to come at any time, by making clear, etc.. ... The pope can modify divine law, since his own power is not of man, six from God, and in the acts as vicegerent of God upon earth with most ample power of his sheep of binding and loosing can be interpreted "... the pope, and for reason to limit the right of God, such as is commonly say that all the ..."

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    “...ARTICULUS II. Quoad ea quae concernunt Papae dignitatem, autoritatem seu potestatem, et infallibilitatem.

    Summarium. 1. Papa tantae est dignitatis et celsitudinis, ut non sit simplex homo, sed quasi Deus, et Dei Vicarius. – 2. Papa adeo summae et supremae dignitatis est, ut proprie loquendo non sit in dignitate constitutus, sed potius in ipso culmine dignitatum positus. – 3. Papa idem est ac Pater patrum. – 4. Et hoc nomine uti potest solus Summus Pontifex. – 5. Papa appellatur Sanctissimus, et quare? – 6. Neque Sanctissimi appellari possunt imperatores et reges? – 7. Merito solus Papa appellatur nomine Sanctissimi, et quare? – 8. Papa prae excellentia suae supremae dignitatis vocantur Episcopus Episcoporum. – 9. Item appellatur Ordinarius Ordinariorum. – 10. Item Episcopus universalis Ecclesiae. – 11. Item Episcopus seu dioecesanus totius orbis. – 12. Item divinus monarcha, ac imperator supremus et rex regum. – 13. Hinc Papa triplici corona coronatur tanquam rex coeli, terrae et infernorum. – 14. Imo Romani Pontificis excellentia et potestas, nedum est circa coelestia, terrestria et infernalia, sed etiam super angelos, quorum ipse maior est. – 15. Ita ut si foret possibile, quod Angeli errarent in fide, vel contra fidem sentirent, per Papam iudicari et excommunicari possent. – 16. Papa tantae est dignitatis et potestatis, ut faciat unum et idem tribunal cum Christo. – 17. Adeo ut quidquid facit Pap, ab ore Dei videatur procedere. – 18. Deveniendo ad Papae auctoritatem, Papa est quasi Deus in terra encius Christifidelium princeps, regum omnium rex maximus, plenitudinem potestatis continens, cui terreni simul ac coelestis imperii gubernacula ab omniptente Deo credita sunt. – 19. Congruunt ulterius quoad Papae summam auctoritatem et potestatem textus iuris Caesarei. – 20. Non minus summam Pape auctoritatem et potestatem extollunt rescripta et dogmata virorum aliorum Imperatorum. – 21. Magis magisque supremam Papae auctoritatem potestatemque extollunt plurimi sacri canones et ibi canonistae communiter. – 22. Egregium dictum S. Cyrilli Alexandrini de admirabili auctoritate seu potestate Summi Pontificis. – 23. Hinc iam communis opinion docet, quod Pap utriusque gladii habeat potestatem, spiritualem scilicet, et temporalem. – 24. Quae opinio auctoritate sanctorum Patrum, iuris canonici et civilis dispositione, et apostolicis constitutionibus latissime confirmatur. – 25. Adeo ut contrarium affirmantes videantur adhaerere fere illi opinioni haereticorum reprobatae per Bonifaccium VIII in extravag. Unam Sanctum 1 de Obedient. – 26. Unde principes et reges, infideles possunt per sententiam Papae privari in certis casibus Dominio, quod habent super fideles. – 27. Et inde Pap provincias, quae olim Christianorum erant, ab infidelibus occupatas, alicui ex principibus Chrsitianis regendas concedit. – 28. Imo Papa in casibus, quibus propter haeresim regis, videat periclitari religionem illius regni, fidemque aliorum, nec aliter tanto damno succuri possit, tunc potest non solum a rege regnum, sed etiam ab eius successoribus, si illud debellaverit, concedere. – 29. Afferuntur ad id varia exempla. – 30. Papa tantae est auctoritatis et potestatis, ut possit quoque leges divinas modificare, declarare, vel interpretari, ad num. 31. – [empty] – 32. Papa id potest de se solo etiam sine generali Concilio. Est enim Papa supra Concilium generale, et non e contra. – 33. Quanto vero Papa maior, et excellentior est omnibus, tanto humiliorem se reputat et nominat, ac se vocet Servum servorum Dei? – 35. Quis fuerit primus Pontifex qui se Servus servorum Dei nominavit? – 36. Papa potest ceder et renuntiare Papatui. – 37. Talis renuntiatio fieri debet apud collegium Cardinalium. – 38. Quantum ad Papae infallibitatem, potest Papa considerari dupliciter: primo, quo ad se, ut persona privata privatusque doctor; secundo, quo ad alios, ut persona publica et magister universalis Ecclesiae, eam ex cathedra docens, proponendo quid credendum, quidve agendum sit. – 39. Loqui ex cathedra quid sit? – 40. Loqui ex cathedra non arcatur praecise ad ea, quae Papa proponit ut a Deo revelata, et a nobis credenda fide theologica, sed insuper extenditur ad caetera quae proponit seu tenenda, seu servanda. – 41. Decreta, quae edit Papa ex cathedra circa doctrinam fidei et morum, sunt infallibilia. – 42. Affertur probatio primae partis conclusionis, scilicet, quod infallibilia sint decreta Papae circa doctrinam fidei. – 43. Adducitur et solvitur instantia. – 44. Adducitur et solvitur alia instantia, ad. n. 45. – [empty] – 46. Affertur probatio secundae partis conclusionis, scilicet quod infallibilia sint decreta Papae circa doctrinam morum. – 47. Adducitur obiectio contra conclusionem. – 48. Adducitur responsio et solutio dictae obiectionis. – 49. Papa errare non potest in canonizatione Sanctorum. – 50. Affertur probatio, quod id sit de fide. – 51. Adducitur et solvitur obiectio. – 52. Adducitur et solvitur alia obiectio. – 53. Papa secundum multos licet, errare non possit, et infallibilis sit in beatificatione Beatorum infallibilitate morali, et infra fidem, non tamen infallibilitate fidei. – 54. Affertur ratio huius sententiae. – 55. Papa secundum multos alios est absolute infallibililis infallibilitate fidei, non solum in canonizatione sed etiam in beatificatione. – 56. Affertur ratio istius sententiae. – 57. Adducitur responsio ad rationes proris sententiae. – 58. Pontifex errare non potest in approbatione religionum. – 59. Affertur ratio. – 60. Adducitur et solvitur obiectio. – 61. Adducitur et solvitur instantia. – 62. Papa probabilius etiam ut persona privata non potest in haeresim incidere et in fide deficere. – 63. Affertur ratio. – 64. Ex Romanis Pontificibus nemo unquam repertus fuit qui in haeresim vel apostasiam fuerit prolapsus. – 65. Adducitur et solvitur obiectio. – 66. Adducitur et solvitur alia abiectio. – 67. De fide est Benedictum XIV v. g. legitime electum, et talem ab Ecclesia acceptatum, esse verum Papam. – 68. Affertur probatio ex Concilio Constantiensi sub Martino V, et ex constitutione Leonis X damnantis haeresim Lutheri. – 69. Affertur probatio ex ratione. – 70. Adducitur et solvitur obiectio. – 71. Adducitur et solvitur alia abiectio. – 72. Primatus Ecclesiae universalis, seu Papatus est annexus Romano episcopatui de iure divino. – 73. Affertur probatio ex sacris canonibus et conciliis. – 74. Adducitur et solvitur obiectio ad. 75. – [empty] – 76. Adducitur et solvitur instantia. – 77. Adducitur et solvitur alia instantia concludendo, quod primatus Ec- [page 41 → page 42] clesiae nequeat a Romano episcopatu ulla humana potestate separari, ad n. 78. – [empty] – 79. Quamvis aliqui Pontifices Avenione manserint, semper tamen episcopatum Romanum tenuerunt, et Romani Pontifices fuerunt appellati. – 80. Ubi Papa ibi Roma. – 81. Papa etiamsi salutet excommunicatum, aut ipsi scienter participet quovis modo, non idcirco censetur eum absolvere, nisi expresse se declaret id velle. – 82. Alia ad rem ad n. 88. – [empty]

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    1. Papa tantae est dignitatis et celsitudinis, ut non sit simplex homo, sed quasi Deus Vicarius Dei; c. Ita Dominus 7, dist. 19, ibi: Hunc enim in consortium individuae unitatis assumptum, id, quod ipse erat Dominus, voluit nominari, dicendo: Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificabo Ecclesiam meam; et ibi explicat Glossa: Id, quod ipse erat, scilicet petra, voluit eum vocari Petram; et concordat textus in can. In novo 2, dist. 21, et c. Fundamenta eius 17 de Election. In 6, annot. 1,

    2. ad dec. 2, n. 2, part. 3 Rot. recent. Unde Papa adeo summae et supremae dignitatis est, ut proprie loquendo non sit in dignitate constitutus, sed potius in ipso culmine dignitatum positus, ut observat Card. Zabarell. in Clement. 1, in 5 notabil. de Renuntiat., et cit. Annot. 2, ad decis. 2, num. 2, part. 3 Rot. recentior.

    3. Hinc Papa idem est ac Pater patrum, ut notat Gloss. Communiter recepta in Prooemio

    4. Clement., verb. Papa. Et hoc nomine [1] uti potest solus Summus Pontifex, ut maxima ratione, teste Card. Petra, tom. 1 Comment. ad Constit. 1 divi Leonis, n. 8, fuit statum a Gregorio VII anno 1063, VII Kalend. Maii in Synodo Romana, quia vere solus ipse dici potest Pater patrum, sum contineat primatum omnium, omnibusque sit vere maior, omniumque maximus; cap. Solitae 6 de Maiorit. et obedient., ibi: Fecit Deus duo magna luminaria in firmamento coeli; luminare maius, ut praeesset diei, et luminare minus, ut praeesset nocti, utrumque magnum, sed alterum maius. Ad firmamentum igitur coeli, hoc est universalis Eclesiae, fecit Deus duo magna luminaria, id est duas instituit dignitates, quae sunt pontificalis auctoritas et regalis potestas, sed illa quae praeest diebus, id est spiritualibus, maior est; quae vero carnalibus, minor, ut quanta est inter solem et lunam, tana inter Pontifices et reges differentia cognoscatur [2].

    5. Papa Sanctissimus appellatur, quia talis vere praesumitur; can. Non nos 2, dist. 40, ibi: Quis enim sanctum dubitet esse, quem apex tantae dignitatis attollit? In quo, si desint bona acquisita per meritum, sufficiunt quae a loci praedecessore praestantur; aut enim claros ad haec fastigia erigit, aut qui eriguntur, illustrat. Neque sanctissimi appellari possunt imperatores et reges, quamvis enim in legibus civilibus videatur aliquando usurpatum ab imperatoribus nomen sacratissimi, ut observat Card. Petra. Tom. 1 Commentar. ad Const. 1 divi Leonis Magni, n. 9. Et. Merito solus Papa appellatur nomine Sanctissimi, quia solus ipse est Vicarius Chritsti, qui est fons et origio, atque plenitudo omnis sanctitatis, cap. Inter corporalia 2, cap. Quanto 3, cap. Licet 4 de translatione Episcopi, cum similibus.

    8. Papa prae excellentia suae supremae dignitatis vocatur Episcopus Episcoporum, can. Novatianus 6, caus. 7, qu. 1, can. Loquitur 18, caus. 24, qu. 1. Item appellatur Ordinarius Ordinariorum, c. Cuncta per mundam 17, can. Per principalem 21, caus. 9, qu. 3. Item Episcopus universalis Ecclesiae, prout definit Pelagius II, Const. Incip. Manifesto. Item Episcopus seu Dioecesanus totius orbis, cap. Ad honorem 4 de Auctoritate et usu pallii, Glossa verb. Privata, in c. Felicis, [double s] final., de Poenis in 6. Item divinus monarcha ac imperator supremus, et rex regum; adnotat. Secundae partis, ad dec. 2, Rotae recentior., n. 7.

    13. Hinc Papa triplici corona coronatur, tanquam Rex coeli et terrae et infernorum; adnotat. 1 ad dec. 2, part. 3, Rotae recentior., [double s] 45, num. 61.

    Nota Romani Theologi.

    De triplici Papae corona Nicolaus Alemanus de Laternanensibus parietinis, cap. 13, p. 48, tom. 8, part. 6 Thesauri antiquit. et historiarum Italiae, ita scribit: Tiaram triplicis coronamenti ex Pontificibus primus gestavit ante annos non amplius ducentos quinquaginta Urbanus V, duplicis vero Bonifacius VIII. Nam superiorum Pontificum tiaras in vetustis imaginibus ac monumentis unius coronamenti, et Romae cernimus, et Surgerius describit: capiti [page 42 → page 43] eius (Innocentii VI) phrygium ornamentum imperiale instar galeae circulo aureo concinnatum imponunt. Circa ea quae de triplici Papae regno, deque potestate in sanctos angelos, quorum ipse sit maior, auctor recenset, consulendi sunt theologi. Quae enim ex iurisconsultis ipse refert, eruditis theologis suspecta, et quandoque etiam ridicula habentur. Capiti enim, ac visibili Ecclesiae principi, non alii sane quam visibiles subditi, fideles scilicet homines designari videntur, atque in hoc tantum solvendi ligandique potestatem exercet, eos scilicet regendo, absolvendo vel per censuras ligando dum vivunt, et per Indulgentias iuvando vita functos.

    Responsio Auctoris.

    Mirandum, quod theologus noster sic parvipendat iurisconsultos; ut quae ipsi tradiderint, eruditis theologis suspecta, et quandoque etiam ridicula haberi pronuntiet! Nonne classici iurisconsulti sunt etiam saepe eruditi theologu? Talis certe fuit celeberrimus Paulus Rubeus, qui in cit. Adnotat. Ad dec. 2, part. 3 recent. Sacr. Rom. Rotae, innumeros allegat pro suis conclusionibus theologos, ac in multis etiam SS. Patres. Et si talis non fuisset, sacrum illud supremum tribunal nequaquam permisisset quod suis decisionibus adnecterentur Rubei eruditissimae adnotationes. Legant itaque eruditi omnes dictas sapientissimi iurisconsulti adnotationes ad dec. 2, part. 3 Sacr. Rom. Rotae recentior., et iudicium ferant.

    14. Imo Romani Pontific excellentia et potestas, nedum est circa coelestia, terrestria et infernalia, sed etiam super Angelos, quorum ipse maior est; cit. adnotat. 1, ad dec. 2, part. 3 Rotae Romanae recent., [double s] 5, n. 24. Ita ut, si foret possibile, quod Angeli errarent in fide, vel contra fidem sentirent, per Papam iudicari et excommunicari possent; cit. adnot. 1 ad decis. 2 Rotae Romanae recent., [double s] 5, num. 24. Hinc in materiis fidei ad eum, tnaquam ad solem intendere debemus. Ita in cit. Sacr. Rot. Rom. In Compend. Redact., [double s] 3, in secund. adnot. ad decis. 2, [double s] 5, n. 32.

    16. Tantae enim est dignitatis et potestatis, ut faciat unum et idem tribunal cum Christo, ut per textum in c. Quanto 3 de translatione Episcopi, tenent passim doctores adducti in cit. Adnot. 1, n. 68, ad dec. 2, p. 3 Rotae recent. Adeo ut quidquid facit Papa, ab ore Dei videatur procedere, ut post plurimos doctores, ratiocinatur Rota in Forosempronien. et Eugubina, seu Nullius, Emphyteusis 16 Iunii 1636 coram Coccino, [double s] Hinc inferendo, vers. Ita ut, quod fit a Papa, ab or Dei videtur procedere; cit. Adnot. 1 ad decis. 2, [double s] 5, a. 31, part. 3 Rotae recent.

    18. Deveniendo igitur ad Papae auctoritatem; Papa est quasi Deus in terra, unicus Christifidelium princeps, regum omnium rex maximus, plenitudinem potestatis continens, cui terreni simul ac coelestis imperii gubernacula ab omnipotente Deo credita sunt, prout clare habetur in can. Omnes 1, dist. 22, ibi: Qui (scilicet Christus) aeternae vitae clavigero terreni simul et coelestis imperii iura commisit; et in extravagant. Ioannis XXII, cap. Si fratrum, unic., Ne sede vacante aliquid innovetur, et in alia celebri extravagant. Bonifacii VIII, cap. Unam sanctum catholicam de Maiorit. Et obed., inter communes.

    19. Congruunt ulterius quo ad Papae summam auctoritatem et potestatem textus Iuris Caesarei, nempe in 1. Reddentes honorem Cod. de summa Trinitate et fide catholica; 1. Bene a Zenone Cod. de quadriennii Praescriptione; 1. Omnes dies Cod. de Feriis, et authent. de Monachis, [double s] Si vero relinquens; authentic. de ecclesiastic. Titul., [double s] 1, collat. 9, cum similibus.

    20. Non minus summam Papae auctoritatem et potestatem extollunt rescripta et dogmata variorum aliorum imperatorum, nempe Valentiniani, Othonis, Caroli Magni, Constantini, etc., quae ex eorum constitutionibus refert Gratianus in c. In memoriam 3, dist. 19, ibi: Per legatos apostolicam interpellet sublimitatem, ut potissimum sua sancta legatione dignetur decernere, etc.; et in summario expresse dicitur: Tolerandum est iugum, quod a Sancta Sede imponitur, licet intolerabile videatur; can. Valentinianus 3, dist. 63, ibi: Nos, qui gubernamus imperium, Pontificibus sincere capita nostra submittimus; c. Tibi domino Ioanni Papae 33, ead. Dist. 63, ibi: Sanctam Romanam Ecclesiam, et te rectorem ipsius exaltabo; can. Constantinus 14, dist. 96, ibi: Ut sicut Beatus Petrus in terris vicarius Filii Dei fuit constitutus, ita et Pontifices eius successores in terris principatus potestatem amplius, quam terrenae imperialis nostrae serenitatis mansuetudo habere videtur. ...” [Prompta Bibliotheca Vol. 6, “Papa”, Article 2; pg 41 → ] - http://books.google.com/books?id=uJ8sAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq="Prompta+Bibliotheca"#v=onepage&q&f=false
     
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