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There Were No Winners

Revmitchell

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You'd like that I guess. Sorry to disappoint you but I think it important more than ever that you hear voices like mine, given what you have posted here.

This ideology is part of the constant hostility on this board. People think what they post here on this board establishes some truth and means something. Neither of which are true.
 

Matt Black

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But I think I'll take your advice on this thread and give it a rest: I've stated my view, to which I adhere and with which you and others take issue, and you and others have stated yours, with which I disagree. We are not going to convince each other and in many ways our debate reflects the divisions in the societies of both our countries. I hope in due course we can as brothers in Christ do better rather than mirror worldly concerns.
 

JonC

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Explain your 'argument '.
You are arguing from the posistion of intolerance and hatred - not of behavior but of ideologies. This was the argument against the Jews just prior to WW2 (against, I'll grant, supposed ideologies upon which Germany's economic troubles were laid).

You are the same as they are, just hating a different group of people. No better, no worse.
 

Shadowlands

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No, ANTIFA won. They have successfully taken the spotlight of their violent behavior off of themselves and placed it on the white supremacists.

Only with the help of the mainstream liberal press. Don't be discouraged
though. That delusion won't last for long.

Too many people are too smart to be taken in by leftist media types. For
example, just two blocks from my home are two lesbians who are not at
all misled by the mainstream press. They are fans of Fox News and Rush
Limbaugh. I don't get it either, but if two lesbians can't be fooled like that,
there is hope that alot of secular folks are just as intelligent
 
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Reynolds

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If there were no winners in Charlottesville, why is David Duke thanking President Trump for his statements?
David Duke is an evil genius. I have no idea why he does what he does, but you can bet he has a reason. I would guess his reason is to attempt to start rioting and chaos.
 

Reynolds

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Right! 20 of the counter-protesters were injured and 3 people died because of the Nazis and other Racists.
I think this is what InTheLight was implying.
I guess the at left should not have turned the rally violent if they couldn't hang in the fight.
 

Use of Time

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This ideology is part of the constant hostility on this board. People think what they post here on this board establishes some truth and means something. Neither of which are true.

The fact that you of all people can say that with a straight face is amusing.
 

Matt Black

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You are arguing from the posistion of intolerance and hatred - not of behavior but of ideologies. This was the argument against the Jews just prior to WW2 (against, I'll grant, supposed ideologies upon which Germany's economic troubles were laid).

You are the same as they are, just hating a different group of people. No better, no worse.
Having said I won't post on this thread again, I'm probably going to regret this but I can't let this comment stand.

I'm astonished that you can't see this but the difference is that my intolerance and hatred of their ideology isn't going to kill anyone...whereas their intolerance and hatred killed millions last century and has kicked off again at the weekend in the body count stakes. I am also intolerant of and hateful towards abortion: are you likewise saying I am wrong to be?
 

Matt Black

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LOL.

Stalin opposed Nazi Fascism. His body count dwarfs Hitler's.
He only opposed it once Hitler attacked him; prior to that he was happy to find common cause with him and sign a non-aggression pact carving up eastern Europe between them.
 

Rob_BW

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He only opposed it once Hitler attacked him; prior to that he was happy to find common cause with him and sign a non-aggression pact carving up eastern Europe between them.
When totalitarian regimes collide.
 

JonC

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Having said I won't post on this thread again, I'm probably going to regret this but I can't let this comment stand.

I'm astonished that you can't see this but the difference is that my intolerance and hatred of their ideology isn't going to kill anyone...whereas their intolerance and hatred killed millions last century and has kicked off again at the weekend in the body count stakes. I am also intolerant of and hateful towards abortion: are you likewise saying I am wrong to be?
No, you've missed the point. Your intolerance and hatred here may not kill anyone, I agree. But the type of intolerance and hatred you hold will and, historically, has killed millions.

If you are intolerant and hate people who disagree with you on abortions then yes, this is the same (I already clarified the difference between intolerance of ideologies and of acts).

You are the opposite side of the same coin.
 

JonC

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When I've killed six million Jews, get back to me
Your type of intolerance towards those of different ideologies has. Look up Germany post WWI and leading into WWII.

So, here I am....getting back with you.

When you decide to hate a people for what they believe then you are the same. The only difference being to what extent you act on your hatred. Flip side of the same coin.
 

Matt Black

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I hate their ideology. I don't hate the people. I feel sorry for them if anything. I pray they will repent and come to their senses
 

Bro. Curtis

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He only opposed it once Hitler attacked him; prior to that he was happy to find common cause with him and sign a non-aggression pact carving up eastern Europe between them.
My point is and remains you can oppose Nazis and still be evil.
 
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