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They want 8 of 10 people to die

windcatcher

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It's called 'eugenics'.
It is not a conspiracy: There are people of influence who really advocate this. They want to be as God....... sound familiar? Through the ages, the sinister plot of the 'god of this world' has been plotting, and testing, how to conform mankind into his image to serve his purpose and conspire against the sovereignty of the ONE who made us in His image:

Please Watch: It's just less than 10 minutes.
 

Magnetic Poles

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Nice little piece of propaganda trying to tie unrelated things together to make a flawed point. Christians really need to learn how to use discernment.
 

4His_glory

New Member
Sorry I am not going to buy it. This is as MP said just a bunch of things strung together.
As Christians we should not worry about what the world is coming too. We are told it will grow in evil, but that should not trouble us. Just live for the glory of God. Focus on serving him despite what society is like. Are we too afraid to sacrifice?
 

Revmitchell

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Magnetic Poles said:
Nice little piece of propaganda trying to tie unrelated things together to make a flawed point. Christians really need to learn how to use discernment.

Can you point out what, in this video, what is unrelated?
 
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donnA

Active Member
I would tend to agree with mp and 4Hg.
None of these things in the video is related to each other, unless you enjoy conspiracy theory, which are usually untrue.
 

windcatcher

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For you who doubt conspiracy theories....... the Bible even teaches that from the beginning the mystery of iniquiry is working in this world. If you wish to call the exposure of that 'mystery' a 'conspiracy' then fine.

But if you wish to debunk the facts presented in this and similar documentaries then prove that its only a 'theory'.

Let's examine the facts: Is it fact or theory that China limits family growth and penalizes....make that penializes those who conspire to keep their children and carry their pregnacies full term?

Is it fact or theory regarding the response of planets like Mars, Jupiter, Saturn to the heat of the sun? The earth is closer: Is it fact or theory to think that earth isn't similarly effected by the solar heat of the sun.... or that man's contribution (some figure to max out at only 3% effect) on the environment is sufficient to alter the effects of the sun upon our planet?

Here's another video....just shy of 10 minutes of your time.

Does Al Gore, with his excesses of 'carbon footprint' (private jet, home and lifestyle) really act like a man with convictions regarding the envirnoment? Now add in his encouragement for carbon tax and cap in trade: He makes a boast of how he purchases 'carbon off-set credits' to make up for his impact on the environment.... Ever wonder about the 'purchase'? Its a scam and he owns interest and his 'purchase' helps to line his own pockets. So will the 'carbon credits' which we may be paying or 'taxed' on someday. His inconveinent truth is a carefully designed propaganda advertisement for the elite to get richer and for limiting the exercise of our freedoms.

What about Ted Turner and his candid quotes? What about Bill Gates' philanthorpy? Warren Buffet's? Is it really for good causes or front organizations with hidden agendas? What about the advocation of mass population reduction via biologics promoted by celebrated biologist, Dr. Eric Pianka? Is it just by accident that we have an 'Earth Day' and the earth and 'mother earth' is rising to the level of diety? The Christian footprint in the public schools is stealthly being silenced but we are having 'state promoted religion' and hardly recognize it.

How about the quotes of Ted Turner? David Rockerfeller? Henry Kissinger? (There are more.... not mentioned in this film.... the positions of Jacque Cousteau, Darwin, Margaret Saenger, Adolf Hitler, ....the list goes on.)

" Eugenics- 'Is the study of the agencies under social control, that improve or impair the racial qualities of future generations either physically or mentally.' Sir Francis Galton"

Sure, its only conincidence that Robert Thomas Malthais proposed the collapse of food as a means to control and remove the poor from the earth. It is only conincidence that Monsanto and similar industry has risen to controls of chemicals which help produce and manipulate crops AND developed biotechnology and genetic modification of seeds designed to give them a monopoly and control of agriculture. It is only coincidence that the blessings of the USDA, FDA, etc. allow unrestrictive implimentation of agri-industry... and big pharma .... and refuse to address the concerns of farmers and consumers who want closer scrutiny of this industry and research data: It is only coincidence that scientist keep jobs who are company loyalists: only coincidence that research drawn up by company insiders gets published by 'qualified' persons not even associated with companies and their research but who are 'paid' to affix their title and credentials to the publications to make it to appear that data was independant. It is only coincidence that meds appear on the market which actually do the opposite of what they're reported to do: a drug to promote energy in cancer patients... actually contributes to tumor aggression and spread: drugs to control cholesterol to reduce heart attacks actually increase the incidence and severity of heart attacks and strokes: professionally, doctors who promote nutritional and natural supports to maintanance or 'cures' of chronic conditions are ostracized by peer majorities..... whose education and knowledge of medicine was subsidized by big pharma. Sure, it is only coincidence that government, particularly our government, has aligned itself with industries which exert control of production and availability of resources for the needs of its people....against the voice of the people who want answers to their questions and see the advancement of control over their freedoms of choice. It is only coincidence that the UK, particularly Australia... and now Canada is controlling herbal and vitamin suppliments.... and the USA has passed similar CODEX which is already in subtle process of shutting down the alternative choices of health maintanance to people.
 

Ed Edwards

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Every time i read this nonsense, i wish i'd kept a file I had once. I had a Conspiracy rating scale. Basically the Severity of a Conspiracy was was the likely-hood to be Implemented TIMES the number of people involved harmfully. The most serious conspiracy at the time (late 1980s) was the Communist conspiracy - lots of people working for it, would harm lots of people. Yet it's Severity went down in the early 1990s.

The Eugenic movement was popular in Germany. The USofA went to war (with the Soviet Union as an ally, BTW) against Germany to stop that conspiracy. I don't think thge Eugenetics movement is much to worry about right now.

Sorry, if the 'ability to make it happen' is zero - then the threat of the conspiracy is zero. Sorry, if the 'harms nobody' is zero - then he threat of the conspiracy is zero. It is the ones that harm people and might be implemented that you have to be concerned about.
 

windcatcher

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Department of Homeland Security will data base your DNA and the DNA of your babies and grandbabies.... or neices and nephews.

Conspiracy is a hidden plot to break the law. But when law, itself, is, by its own design, less protective of one's rights and freedoms, and actually places one in a more restrictive position or vunerable position should evil be designed.... no its not conspiracy...... BUT IT IS IGNORANCE which ridicules and limits the dissemination of information which might offer people the opportunity to be more vigilant of what already is, and more active in restraining the excesses of their governments.

The public is clueless. S. 1858 imposes a federal agenda of DNA databanking and population-wide genetic research," Brase continued. "It does not require consent and there are no requirements to fully inform parents about the warehousing of their child's DNA for the purpose of genetic research.

"Already, in Minnesota, the state health department reports that 42,210 children of the 780,000 whose DNA is housed in the Minnesota 'DNA warehouse' have been subjected to genetic research without their parent's knowledge or consent," she said.

The federal plan sets up the coast-to-coast DNA collections then report the results to "physicians and families" as well as educate families about newborn screening.

"We now are considered guinea pigs, as opposed to human beings with rights," said Brase, warning such DNA databases could spark the next wave of demands for eugenics, the concept of improving the human race through the control of various inherited traits. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, advocated eugenics to cull from the population types of people she considered unfit.

In 1921, Sanger said eugenics is "the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems," and she later lamented "the ever increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."

From here, for those of you who consider WND a source
 

Palatka51

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This genetic thing is a
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that we will wish we never opened.
 

Joseph M. Smith

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I too am suspicious of the conspiracy theories advanced in this video, but let's think about another, present conspiracy -- that of the military leaders of Myanmar against their own people! They refuse to let in the aid that the compassionate people of the world want to give them. That is the mystery of iniquity if ever there was an example.
 

Hopeful

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Joseph M. Smith said:
I too am suspicious of the conspiracy theories advanced in this video, but let's think about another, present conspiracy -- that of the military leaders of Myanmar against their own people! They refuse to let in the aid that the compassionate people of the world want to give them. That is the mystery of iniquity if ever there was an example.

Amen! How incredibly crazy and sad.
 

Ed Edwards

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Speaking of "New world Order".

Look at the back (green side) of your US$1 bill.

Look at that left picture of the pyramid.
Check out the logo below the pyramid:

NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

That is written in Latin.

'SECLORUM' is the Latin word from which we get
the English world 'secular'. 'Secular' started out as
a word that meant 'worldly' as opposed to
the clergy which was supposed to be 'other worldly' ;)

'ORDO' the the Latin word from which we
get 'order': a ranking, or organization, or set.

'NOVUS' is a Latin word from which we get 'new'.
(it really is, look it up)

Roughly then we find:

NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

New World Order

Wikipedia says at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum

The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for
"New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse
of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed
in 1782 and printed on the back of the American
dollar bill since 1935.
 

just-want-peace

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billwald said:
IF EVERY PERSON who thought the world is overpopulated would blow their brains out . . . .
How true, how true!!

And if all the GW advocates would quit exhaling CO2----

And if all the abortionists would practice their beliefs on themselves----

Etc., etc.-----

Then, as the old song says -- "What a wonderful world"!:thumbs:
 

JustChristian

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Revmitchell said:
Population control, environmental concerns, abortion are all part of the same movement.


I've never understood how Christians could oppose the responsibility we have to be good caretakers of God's creation. When God created the universe did He want man to spew automobile exhaust into the air so you can't see the sun like it is on many days in LA, Denver, NYC, etc. ? Did He want us to poison the rivers so we can't drink the water or release carcinogens from our factories? To revile those who want to keep the earth clean and pure? What's your Biblical (not political) support for supporting the pollution of God's creation?

Psa 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Psa 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Psa 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:
Psa 8:7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
Psa 8:8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas.
Psa 8:9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth!
 

Revmitchell

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BaptistBeliever said:
I've never understood how Christians could oppose the responsibility we have to be good caretakers of God's creation. When God created the universe did He want man to spew automobile exhaust into the air so you can't see the sun like it is on many days in LA, Denver, NYC, etc. ? Did He want us to poison the rivers so we can't drink the water or release carcinogens from our factories? To revile those who want to keep the earth clean and pure? What's your Biblical (not political) support for supporting the pollution of God's creation?

Psa 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Psa 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Psa 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:
Psa 8:7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
Psa 8:8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas.
Psa 8:9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth!

Boy did you e ver run off on anunreated tamgent.
 
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