Thomas Sowell: 'Systemic Racism' Has 'No Meaning'

[church mouse guy]

Kinda like MAGA

So you are back to Trump is Hitler so what are you?

 

[Sai]

I may have misunderstood this post, but if not, I think your view of back americans and blacks in general is much lower than mine. I see them as capable as anyone else.

No, they are just as capable of pride and self righteousness as anyone else.

 

[Calminian]

No, they are just as capable of pride and self righteousness as anyone else.

Of course. But your post above seemed to suggest otherwise.

 

[Particular]

How could anyone in their right mind expect the black community to adopt capitalism. In the Caribbean and South America merchants were Portuguese or Chinese etc. the Africans simply had no concept of this and remained working class citizens. There should have been thought given to this from the beginning of their freedom.

I believe that segregation was better for blacks. They could have been given reservations or something that enabled them to create a culture of dignity and hard work. But I think, that whites looked at blacks during segregation and did not want to see them succeed as entrepreneurs. Just like they didn’t want them to succeed at sports. What we have now are a mixed bag of some very intelligent and successful black people vs some extremely ignorant and violent black people. They are the only race in America with this problem, there are no white neighborhoods where innocent people are randomly murdered on a daily basis.

When you go to a village where society is run by local chiefs the easiest groups of natives to manipulate and control are those without family, that are bastards, that are immoral (not that these are coincided). They can easily be manipulated by those who do not have their interests in mind by having the material means that they lack and using that to control them. That is what’s called “abusing the fatherless and the widow.”

The most immoral urban communities are black. There are plenty of immoral whites and others but the black urban communities of poverty and murder are only black communities, they are a black American phenomenon.

So how do we replace the current situation blacks are facing? With transgender bathrooms and gay marriages of course. Because real gender real marriage is not really of any value at all, therefore the fatherless black syndrome is not to be replaced. This is 2020 America and it will only decline as time moves forward.

I may have misunderstood this post, but if not, I think your view of back americans and blacks in general is much lower than mine. I see them as capable as anyone else.

He's saying that apartheid was good for black South Africans and Jim Crowe was good for black Americans. He is a voice no one should ever pay attention to regarding human relationships.

 

[Sai]

He's saying that apartheid was good for black South Africans and Jim Crowe was good for black Americans. He is a voice no one should ever pay attention to regarding human relationships.

Delicious

 

[Calminian]

No, they are just as capable of pride and self righteousness as anyone else.

Right. And do you believe they're as capable of doing good as everyone else? Sounded to me, you were implying they are not.

 

[JonC]

He's saying that apartheid was good for black South Africans and Jim Crowe was good for black Americans. He is a voice no one should ever pay attention to regarding human relationships.

I suspect this was bound to come up because of the nature of the discussion.

The Dutch Reformed believed the same thing regarding slavery. George Whitfield taught the same about slavery. So I am not really shocked to see it today.

I think that we can all agree that good things come out of bad things (Israel becoming a nation out of the Holocaust; the Christianity spreading out of persecution; and even Christianity spreading to a race out of slavery).

BUT it is one thing to say good things come out of bad things and another to call the bad things good.

 

[Calminian]

I suspect this was bound to come up because of the nature of the discussion.

The Dutch Reformed believed the same thing regarding slavery. George Whitfield taught the same about slavery. So I am not really shocked to see it today.

I think that we can all agree that good things come out of bad things (Israel becoming a nation out of the Holocaust; the Christianity spreading out of persecution; and even Christianity spreading to a race out of slavery).

BUT it is one thing to say good things come out of bad things and another to call the bad things good.

Well, said, and good distinctions.

 

[Sai]

Right. And do you believe they're as capable of doing good as everyone else? Sounded to me, you were implying they are not.

That depends.

 

[Calminian]

That depends.

Only bad theology would lead to that conclusion.

 

[Sai]

Only bad theology would lead to that conclusion.

There is none good. Try again.

 

[Calminian]

There is none good. Try again.

I'm afraid that doesn't get you out of the woods. You're obviously racist, and likely it's based on some bad theology.

 

[Sai]

I'm afraid that doesn't get you out of the woods. You're obviously racist, and likely it's based on some bad theology.

That depends. What is your definition of racist? Because to me it means that I value another less than myself according to their skin color. That I deny.

 

[Calminian]

That depends. What is your definition of racist? Because to me it means that I value another less than myself according to their skin color. That I deny.

If that out helps you sleep. This sounds like classic white superiority liberalism.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

The real systemic racism problem is that propagated by elite racebaiters. They may or may not be deeply racist, but intentionally incite racism for personal gain. They have no interest in resolving any race problems, only in creating and intensifying them. This gives them manipulative power over the masses. They care nothing for their followers. They are essentially cult leaders.

Unless they are blatantly exposed and removed, there is little hope; with the MSM and other Dems behind them, there is virtualy none.