Time to move forward

[JonC]

again ... you are completely disregarding what the pharmaceuticals have published about their own product:

it will not prevent you from contracting Covid 19 ... and ... more importantly ... it will not even mitigate, let alone prevent, you from spreading it.

It will allegedly reduce the severity of symptoms ... to the potential point that you may not even realize you're sick and contagious.
So ... who is the threat to public health? The guy who contracts the virus, runs a fever and stays home ...

or the guy who contracts the virus and doesn't have recognizable symptoms and goes to work spreading the virus?

we need a little more rational thought on this deal.

I believe it appropriate to go with accepted science when it comes to public decisions.

 

[JonC]

“Even when the statistics point to the extremely low fatality rate among children and young adults (measuring 0.002% at age 10 and 0.01% at 25), the young and the healthy are still terrorized by the chokehold of irrational fear when faced with the coronavirus,” Cheah wrote, adding:3

“Instead of facing reality, the delusional person would rather live in their world of make-believe. But in order to keep faking reality, they’ll have to make sure that everyone else around them also pretends to live in their imaginary world.

In simpler words, the delusional person rejects reality. And in this rejection of reality, others have to play along with how they view the world, otherwise, their world will not make sense to them. It’s why the delusional person will get angry when they face someone who doesn’t conform to their world view …


It’s one of the reasons why you’re seeing so many people who’d happily approve the silencing of any medical experts whose views contradict the WHO or CDC guidelines. ‘Obey the rules!’ becomes more important than questioning if the rules were legitimate to begin with.”

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServ...F/mass-psychosis-real-global-pandemic-pdf.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1KmNKYC1l0stjctkGswl6g

At the same ti.e the risk of dying post vaccine for any medical reason (regardless to bring connected to a vaccine) is 0.0021%. So....essentially zero.

 

[JonC]

arrrr ... it's so clear to me now ...

you're simply using the law of averages.

it's in your signature:

"People are more likely to be right in what they affirm than in what they deny." F.D. Maurice​

so you "affirm" repeatedly with great frequency ... and this, you understand, makes you more likely to be 'right.'

IDK why it took me so long to realize this.

You're a name it and claim it guy! GOT IT!

Perhaps you should quit the discernment game. You ain't very good at it.

 

[Wingman68]

My Amish neighbors are doing just fine. This August they had a huge wedding for one of their 12 children. There were carts parked everywhere. At least 200 people there, playing games & singing. With the amount that was there, some had to have driven their cart for 50 miles just to join the celebration. I talk with them regularly, they are always upbeat, & always working, & always reminding that if you need anything…just let them know.

 

[JonC]

so what specific actions are anti vaxed taking that is working to strip owners of individual rights?

In my area (the CSRA) and in TX they ate suing private companies that decided to require vaccines as a condition of employment in order to address what has been decided is a workplace hazard that can be mitigated.

 

[JonC]

My Amish neighbors are doing just fine. This August they had a huge wedding for one of their 12 children. There were carts parked everywhere. At least 200 people there, playing games & singing. With the amount that was there, some had to have driven their cart for 50 miles just to join the celebration. I talk with them regularly, they are always upbeat, & always working, & always reminding that if you need anything…just let them know.

They are good people, and hard workers.

 

[Revmitchell]

In my area (the CSRA) and in TX they ate suing private companies that decided to require vaccines as a condition of employment in order to address what has been decided is a workplace hazard that can be mitigated.

well just because someone disagrees with employer mandates doesn’t mean you are being accurate in lumping them in with those suing.

 

[JonC]

well just because someone disagrees with employer mandates doesn’t mean you are being accurate in lumping them in with those suing.

I am not lumping someone who disagrees with mandates into the bunch. I'm not fond of mandates.

I am referring to people who try to prevent empoyers from having that freedom.

 

[Revmitchell]

I am not lumping someone who disagrees with mandates into the bunch. I'm not fond of mandates.

I am referring to people who try to prevent empoyers from having that freedom.

Sure you do. You’ve accused me of it. Lumping me in with them. You’re going to have to start being more accurate about your past posts accusing other people.

 

[JonC]

Sure you do. You’ve accused me of it. Lumping me in with them. You’re going to have to start being more accurate about your past posts accusing other people.

Yes. Because you said it violated the rights of employees and was evil.

If you have no issue with employers requiring a vaccination as a condition of employment then we agree.

 

[Two Wings]

Perhaps you should quit the discernment game. You ain't very good at it.

Perhaps.

It's your sig and your CV JAB post history.

 

[Revmitchell]

Yes. Because you said it violated the rights of employees and was evil.

If you have no issue with employers requiring a vaccination as a condition of employment then we agree.

doesn’t justify it. There is a stark difference in being against an action and engaging in something to stop it. Just because one supports one of those does not mean they support both.

I have never said I wanted to or have engaged in actions to force them to stop therefore your accusation is unfounded

 

[Two Wings]

Governor McMaster is opposed to companies mandating vaccines but rightly says that as private businesses this is their right and he will not intervene.

what you're overlooking is that a lie begets another lie.

similarly ... bad law (policy) begets another bad law/policy.

This is what we have here. We have an entire narrative about this virus which has been overtaken by an agenda which is completely void of any public health issue concern. it's become a political/social issue more than a health issue.

in THIS respect, workplace discrimination, by law, has been invited.

My outfit has made balderdash claims about jab or job. "I have no need for unvaccinated (sic) staff" as if being 100 cv jabbed would stop this at all. Israel has clearly shown the cv jab does NOT stop the spread.

I think this will have implications of apocalyptic proportions very soon ... but just the question of "effectiveness" is answered in that little New Jersey sized nation ... who's now well into their 3rd shot in 10 months.

 

[Two Wings]

I believe it appropriate to go with accepted science when it comes to public decisions.

I believe it's appropriate to go with the truth.

truth is ... there is much about this entire scenario which has been programmed. I don't claim to be aware of it all, but I do know in this time, deception is the word of the day. Deception has been used mightily in this event.

 

[JonC]

doesn’t justify it. There is a stark difference in being against an action and engaging in something to stop it. Just because one supports one of those does not mean they support both.

I have never said I wanted to or have engaged in actions to force them to stop therefore your accusation is unfounded

We disagree on that part. You presented the employer as not having that right (obviously they do). But nonetheless, glad we can at least agree on this topic.

Employers have the right to mandate vaccines as a condition of employment, to require masks, or to prohibit masks if feasible.

 

[JonC]

I believe it's appropriate to go with the truth.

truth is ... there is much about this entire scenario which has been programmed. I don't claim to be aware of it all, but I do know in this time, deception is the word of the day. Deception has been used mightily in this event.

The truth is the vaccines have proven more effective than natural immunity.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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