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Time to move forward

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JonC

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67% of the US population has been vaccinated against the sars-cov-2 virus, with 29,819,427 recent vaccinations awaiting their second shot.

Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia, and Wyoming are the only states with a vaccination rate under 50% for those 18 years and older.

As we see more and more covid being a fatal epidemic among the unvaccinated we have seen an increase in vaccinations (since August 1st there have been 56,587,768 first shots given).

The goal is 80% vaccinated.

I am increasingly of the opinion it is time for the nation to move on, and forward, without the immunization resistant people.

My reasoning is those who have had covid (which I suspect make up quite a bit of the vaccine rejectors) have at least some level of protection. Many of these have had covid multiple times.

There is no need, IMHO, To wait on the rejections, especially as the vaccination rates continue to climb.

Companies can require vaccinations as a condition of employment or they can test the unvaccinated on a regular basis. Large venues can require proof of vaccination. Airlines and cruise lines can require proof of vaccinations. We have the ability to use passport apps to verify vaccinations.

So let's get this show on the road. The unvaccinated can remain behind or catch up - their choice. But perhaps it is time to stop waiting and simply move forward.
 

Reynolds

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67% of the US population has been vaccinated against the sars-cov-2 virus, with 29,819,427 recent vaccinations awaiting their second shot.

Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia, and Wyoming are the only states with a vaccination rate under 50% for those 18 years and older.

As we see more and more covid being a fatal epidemic among the unvaccinated we have seen an increase in vaccinations (since August 1st there have been 56,587,768 first shots given).

The goal is 80% vaccinated.

I am increasingly of the opinion it is time for the nation to move on, and forward, without the immunization resistant people.

My reasoning is those who have had covid (which I suspect make up quite a bit of the vaccine rejectors) have at least some level of protection. Many of these have had covid multiple times.

There is no need, IMHO, To wait on the rejections, especially as the vaccination rates continue to climb.

Companies can require vaccinations as a condition of employment or they can test the unvaccinated on a regular basis. Large venues can require proof of vaccination. Airlines and cruise lines can require proof of vaccinations. We have the ability to use passport apps to verify vaccinations.

So let's get this show on the road. The unvaccinated can remain behind or catch up - their choice. But perhaps it is time to stop waiting and simply move forward.
You sound like Joe Biden. Vaxed can spread the virus as easily as unvaxed. In light of that, your entire argument is illogical at best.
I have moved on. All you virus fearers should do the same. I am confident in my natural immunity. If you were confident in your vax, you would quit crying about what the unvaxed do.
 

Conan

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They got the vax because they were afraid. They wonder why others were not afraid like they were. They want others to follow in their choice so they won't be alone.
 

KenH

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They got the vax because they were afraid.

I got vaccinated because I wanted to decrease my chances of getting hospitalized. I have no one else to care for my furkids and I trust that God will lead me to do what I need to do to be available to care for them as long as I am needed.
 

JonC

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They got the vax because they were afraid. They wonder why others were not afraid like themselves. They want others to follow in their mistakes so they won't be alone.
How do you know? I was not afraid of the virus or the vaccine.

I am not afraid of the flu, pneumonia, or covid but I got the vaccine. I'm not afraid of getting shingles but I had chickenpox and will get the shingles vaccine. I'm not afraid of high blood pressure but I take blood pressure medicine.

People decide to take the vaccine or they refuse tge vaccine not out if fear. They look at their risks, the benefits and risks of a vacvine, the risks of the virus and they make an educated decision about their health. Some look at the benefits of retaining their current job, personal convictions, or of travel restrictions. All of these things. But I doubt fear is a factor in anyone's decision regardless of what they decide.
 

Conan

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I got vaccinated because I wanted to decrease my chances of getting hospitalized. I have no one else to care for my furkids and I trust that God will lead me to do what I need to do to be available to care for them as long as I am needed.
I hope it works well for you! I respect your choice. May God bless you and your furkids!
 

JonC

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Amen!

I think that effectively as a nation we have moved forward. The sports stadiums and arenas are basically full.
I think so too. We are still having a lot of covid hospitalizations and deaths in SC, but they are mostly the unvacvinated. I don't mean this to say their lives don't matter, but people make their choices and choices have consequences. It is sad, even tragic. The only "silver lining" is people are learning from the mistake those people made and vaccinations have increased. We were under 30% in April but now we are at an almost 60% vaccination rate.
 

just-want-peace

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You sound like Joe Biden. Vaxed can spread the virus as easily as unvaxed. In light of that, your entire argument is illogical at best.
I have moved on. All you virus fearers should do the same. I am confident in my natural immunity. If you were confident in your vax, you would quit crying about what the unvaxed do.

AMEN, AMEN, & AMEN!!!!!!!
 

Revmitchell

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We don’t really know how many people are vaccinated, have died from the vax, are sick from the vax, the long term effects from the vax .

people are not going to move on. There is nothing to get left behind from. Some people will be vaxed others won’t. In fact many won’t. In the long term not being vaxed will mean nothing., will effect nothing, and will be forgotten once the dems and all that they influence and control feel the need to create another crisis.

The simple minded that succumbed to their agenda will be embarrassed and will try to act like it didn’t happen or doesn’t matter.
 

JonC

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We don’t really know how many people are vaccinated, have died from the vax, are sick from the vax, the long term effects from the vax .

people are not going to move on. There is nothing to get left behind from. Some people will be vaxed others won’t. In fact many won’t. In the long term not being vaxed will mean nothing., will effect nothing, and will be forgotten once the dems and all that they influence and control feel the need to create another crisis.

The simple minded that succumbed to their agenda will be embarrassed and will try to act like it didn’t happen or doesn’t matter.
Yes, we are able to track vaccines given. States normally track vaccinated (DHEC does, for example).

By moving forward I mean not waiting until we reach 80% vaccinated to lift restrictions and get back to normal. Companies can require vaccinations or test the rejectors. Proof of vaccination can be required for large venues, travel, etc.
 

SavedByGrace

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I am not afraid of the flu, pneumonia, or covid but I got the vaccine. I'm not afraid of getting shingles but I had chickenpox and will get the shingles vaccine. I'm not afraid of high blood pressure but I take blood pressure medicine.

so why would you have any of these, unless you have a "fear" of what might happen if you don't? Synonyms for the word "fear", are "concern, worry, anxious", etc. so the first is probably right in your case?
 

SavedByGrace

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The simple minded that succumbed to their agenda will be embarrassed and will try to act like it didn’t happen or doesn’t matter

so when those who oppose getting the vaccine against Covid, acutally do get this virus, and become very sick, should not seek or receive hospital treatment. Moreso here in the UK, where it is free
 

JonC

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so why would you have any of these, unless you have a "fear" of what might happen if you don't? Synonyms for the word "fear", are "concern, worry, anxious", etc. so the first is probably right in your case?
None of those are correct in my case (fear, concern, worry, or anxious).

I believe we are to be good stewards of the resources God has provided, not limited to monetary issues. A part of this is making choices regarding our health.

I am not concerned or worried about getting pneumonia. But I took the vaccine anyway as a health decision at the recommendation of my physician.

People who make decisions about their physical health, their financial health, their family, employment, etc. do not necessarily do it out of fear, voncern or worry.

I go to the doctor twice a year for lab work and a mini physical. This is not out of fear, concern, anxiety or worry. It is being a good steward (and getting my medications refilled).
 

JonC

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What do you mean by, move on, relative the unvaxed being, remain behind?

Move on to, what, remain behind from, what?

I agree everybody should just move on..

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I mean let people make their own decisions.

The majority are vaccinated, we can require proof of vaccination as a preventative measure, so stop listening to anti-covid-vaxer's propaganda or being concerned about their status.

Just move forward. Leave the rejectors to their decision and move on.

Currently it is like people are trying to convince anti-covid-vaxers that the earth is round. But if they have made up their minds the earth is flat they will readn away any science that challenges their conclusions.

Just get on with life and leave them to their ideas.
 

SavedByGrace

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None of those are correct in my case (fear, concern, worry, or anxious).

I believe we are to be good stewards of the resources God has provided, not limited to monetary issues. A part of this is making choices regarding our health.

I am not concerned or worried about getting pneumonia. But I took the vaccine anyway as a health decision at the recommendation of my physician.

People who make decisions about their physical health, their financial health, their family, employment, etc. do not necessarily do it out of fear, voncern or worry.

I go to the doctor twice a year for lab work and a mini physical. This is not out of fear, concern, anxiety or worry. It is being a good steward (and getting my medications refilled).

surely you must be concerned about your health, otherwise you would not visit the doctor or take any medications that you may need. If, like myself, you have high blood pressure, where the numbers can be a problem, this is a concern, and needs to be treated by medication. You says, "I am not concerned or worried about getting pneumonia", then why get any medication to stop this? pneumonia can kill you if left untreated, so to get it will concern any normal person. I think that you are trying to sound "tough".
 

Revmitchell

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so when those who oppose getting the vaccine against Covid, acutally do get this virus, and become very sick, should not seek or receive hospital treatment. Moreso here in the UK, where it is free

Says who? Why should people be forced to take one risk for the other ?
 
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