Tlaib uses expletive while calling for impeachment

[Use of Time]

Don't be too rough on him, he's just trying to help you make yourself relevant!

No, the error is in saying that Trump's private remark about the lasciviousness of women is equivalent to this anti-American jihadist cursing of the President of the United States. But then you might have been down with Jeremiah Wright's cursing of the USA, also--Jeremiah Wright who now lives in a million dollar mansion in an all white suburb of Chicago just as the equally foul-mouthed threat-issuing Maxine Waters, whose husband is a crook, lives in a four million dollar mansion in West Hollywood, okay I grant you that not many people want to live in the sodomite city of West Hollywood.

Nice Strawman. I think bragging about sexual assault is worse. Your morality may vary of course.

 

[Benjamin]

I personally find her obnoxious and a little presumptuous for being a freshman office holder. You apparently decided to set the goal posts yourself with the whole public vs private argument. There are two wrongs here sure. She dropped an f bomb and was hostile. He bragged about sexually assaulting women in private . Those are pretty far apart in my opinion. But at least she isn’t trying to present herself as anything different. She says cuss words. Okay. The “Trump said it in private” is a fine argument to make but it has a fatal flaw. It means Trump is a phony who shows his true character in private while pretending to be otherwise in the media. At least she is owning who she is. A woman who said a cuss word. Wow.

Explain how Trump is any better in that regard. This ought to be good. I love being told to man up by internet people. I don’t think you would have been able to walk a mile in my shoes tough guy.

Yeah, it seems I figured correctly that you viewed that argument as a means to justify a defense for her actions. Thanks for clarifying that. I have no desire to go down the road of justifying Trumps locker room talk see we could compare the wrongs in order to justify her actions – such would only prove that you missed the point of me calling out the fallacy.

Also my “man up” statement had to do with admitting your sentiments about the argument and had nothing to do with a physical challenge so you can save the hypocritical “tough guy” name call challenges for someone who cares to play such games while hiding behind a keyboard, but that wouldn’t be me.

 

[Use of Time]

Yeah, it seems I figured correctly that you viewed that argument as a means to justify a defense for her actions. Thanks for clarifying that. I have no desire to go down the road of justifying Trumps locker room talk see we could compare the wrongs in order to justify her actions – such would only prove that you missed the point of me calling out the fallacy.

Also my “man up” statement had to do with admitting your sentiments about the argument and had nothing to do with a physical challenge so you can save the hypocritical “tough guy” name call challenges for someone who cares to play such games while hiding behind a keyboard, but that wouldn’t be me.

Except you ignore the part where I didn’t defend her at all. In fact I called her out. Zero defense whatsoever. You going to just casually gloss over that to support your own pre throughout argument which you were just dying to use. You then force that argument into my mouth because nobody was taking the bait. That’s called a strawman.

 

[Benjamin]

Except you ignore the part where I didn’t defend her at all. In fact I called her out. Zero defense whatsoever. You going to just casually gloss over that to support your own pre throughout argument which you were just dying to use. You then force that argument into my mouth because nobody was taking the bait. That’s called a strawman.

I think your opposition to my calling out the fallacy by telling me it was a "nice spin" speaks for itself as a defense.

 

[Use of Time]

I think your opposition to my calling out the fallacy by telling me it was a "nice spin" speaks for itself as a defense.

You double down and keep ignoring me calling her out which I did for all to see here. Never defended her. It’s not there. You are really scrambling. Swallow your pride and acknowledge what I plainly wrote for all to see. This women is an obnoxious rookie who is courting the limelight in a most obvious way. I just think the public vs private argument you made isn’t helpful for Donald there. You are saying it’s somehow better that he only shows his true character in the shadows or so he thought. That’s not a good thing buddy. I don’t know how you think that is any better but again, your morality may vary.

 

[church mouse guy]

You double down and keep ignoring me calling her out which I did for all to see here. Never defended her. It’s not there. You are really scrambling. Swallow your pride and acknowledge what I plainly wrote for all to see. This women is an obnoxious rookie who is courting the limelight in a most obvious way. I just think the public vs private argument you made isn’t helpful for Donald there. You are saying it’s somehow better that he only shows his true character in the shadows or so he thought. That’s not a good thing buddy. I don’t know how you think that is any better but again, your morality may vary.

Actually you used a defense such as Pelosi--an obnoxious freshman.

There is an alliance between liberals and muslim terrorists to establish a police state in the USA. However, if liberals are successful, then muslims will easily subdue them to a muslim dictatorship because liberals are weak.

 

[Use of Time]

Actually you used a defense such as Pelosi--an obnoxious freshman.

There is an alliance between liberals and muslim terrorists to establish a police state in the USA. However, if liberals are successful, then muslims will easily subdue them to a muslim dictatorship because liberals are weak.

An obnoxious freshman is a defense of her? Good grief. No, it’s a true statement which is probably why it’s so hard for you to understand it.

The rest of your post is the usual unhinged rambling about who knows what.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I personally find her obnoxious and a little presumptuous for being a freshman office holder. You apparently decided to set the goal posts yourself with the whole public vs private argument. There are two wrongs here sure. She dropped an f bomb and was hostile. He bragged about sexually assaulting women in private . Those are pretty far apart in my opinion. But at least she isn’t trying to present herself as anything different. She says cuss words. Okay. The “Trump said it in private” is a fine argument to make but it has a fatal flaw. It means Trump is a phony who shows his true character in private while pretending to be otherwise in the media. At least she is owning who she is. A woman who said a cuss word. Wow.

Explain how Trump is any better in that regard. This ought to be good. I love being told to man up by internet people. I don’t think you would have been able to walk a mile in my shoes tough guy.

No need to defend Trump here. You are comparing apples to oranges. I do not believe for one second that this profane speech of hers represents what she is in private. This is her “good” side. This is her at her very best. And she was cheered for it.

 

[Use of Time]

No need to defend Trump here. You are comparing apples to oranges. I do not believe for one second that this profane speech of hers represents what she is in private. This is her “good” side. This is her at her very best. And she was cheered for it.

Bragging about sexually assaulting women in private vs an f bomb dropped in public. Apples and oranges indeed. No need to defend Trump you say? Wow. Just wow. Not going to argue but again, your morality may vary.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Bragging about sexually assaulting women in private vs an f bomb dropped in public. Apples and oranges indeed. No need to defend Trump you say? Wow. Just wow. Not going to argue but again, your morality may vary.

OK, since you seem naïvely fixated, I’ll address it. For “locker room talk,” Trump’s secretly taped comment wasn’t good but still mild by comparison (is that the worst they could find?), especially to what the women say (so they tell me). But labeling it sexual assault is simply clever liberal spin (which you obviously fell for), as it was clearly a consensual reference and an indictment of what the women were willing to do to get what they want.

 

[777]

It is really an apples oranges comparison - Trump's remarks were private and years ago, Tiab;'s were public and last week.

Just more whataboutism, I think Tiab said it for shock effect, and it worked. All of this, no matter who does it when, indicates to me a coarsening of the culture - recall GWB and Cheney's remarks about that reporter, Vincente Fox's remarks to Trump, and so on.

What's really bad here is Tiab said this right after Pelosi had said civility would be restored if she had the House, and all those calls for civility after McCain's and GHWB's deaths. But it just bothers me that one person says something stupid and inappropriate, all people associated with that person are supposed to apologize - I do appreciate Manchin's apology but it's not necessarily, it's on her and her alone.

 

[Benjamin]

Hey! Maybe I got an idea, the Left could compare what this congresswoman did to Trump’s locker room incident! Yeah! That would lighten the charge against her actions, because Trump talked naughty too. Certainly! Use Their Time to bring Trump's prior action up every time someone dares to criticize this congresswoman. Right? I mean, everyone knows this second wrong must somehow be of logical relevant value here in her defense because otherwise it wouldn’t even be a good Use of Time to bring it up. Right?

 

[Use of Time]

Bragging about sexually assaulting women in private vs an f bomb dropped in public. Apples and oranges indeed. No need to defend Trump you say? Wow. Just wow. Not going to argue but again, your morality may vary.

OK, since you seem naïvely fixated, I’ll address it. For “locker room talk,” Trump’s secretly taped comment wasn’t good but still mild by comparison (is that the worst they could find?), especially to what the women say (so they tell me). But labeling it sexual assault is simply clever liberal spin (which you obviously fell for), as it was clearly a consensual reference and an indictment of what the women were willing to do to get what they want.

How can it be consensual when he says he didn’t even ask and just did it. I’m consistently amazed at what Christians will trivialize in support of politics.

 

[Use of Time]

Hey! Maybe I got an idea, the Left could compare what this congresswoman did to Trump’s locker room incident! Yeah! That would lighten the charge against her actions, because Trump talked naughty too. Certainly! Use Their Time to bring Trump's prior action up every time someone dares to criticize this congresswoman. Right? I mean, everyone knows this second wrong must somehow be of logical relevant value here in her defense because otherwise it wouldn’t even be a good Use of Time to bring it up. Right?

Yeah except I never brought trump into this. You are the one that pitched the argument to yourself so you could win remember. I just played off of what I was given. Your fault not mine. I love how you’ve ducked my last response to you as well. Called you on a lie and you are still trying to manufacture my argument for me so you can save face. Pathetic.

 

[Use of Time]

It is really an apples oranges comparison - Trump's remarks were private and years ago, Tiab;'s were public and last week.

Just more whataboutism, I think Tiab said it for shock effect, and it worked. All of this, no matter who does it when, indicates to me a coarsening of the culture - recall GWB and Cheney's remarks about that reporter, Vincente Fox's remarks to Trump, and so on.

What's really bad here is Tiab said this right after Pelosi had said civility would be restored if she had the House, and all those calls for civility after McCain's and GHWB's deaths. But it just bothers me that one person says something stupid and inappropriate, all people associated with that person are supposed to apologize - I do appreciate Manchin's apology but it's not necessarily, it's on her and her alone.

I disagree about apples and oranges. If the f bomb triggers you then a lot of people would faint at some of General Mattis’s pep talks. I think the super perverted talk is more creepy. But whatever, my opinion. She’s attention seeking but of course people will happily play along.

 

[Benjamin]

Yeah except I never brought trump into this.

No, I simply rejected the argument as fallacious.

You are the one that pitched the argument to yourself so you could win remember.

No, I simply rejected the argument as fallacious, and you went into defense mode declaring I had spun the argument.

I've already broke this reasoni gof yours down for you: Tlaib uses expletive while calling for impeachment

I just played off of what I was given. Your fault not mine.

SOunds like a typical Leftist argument to me: It's my fault for factually calling out the fallacy. Got it.

I love how you’ve ducked my last response to you as well.

I saw above you wanted me to double down, so...

Called you on a lie and you are still trying to manufacture my argument for me so you can save face. Pathetic.

I've tried to explain where your reasoning unavoidably takes you but sorry I can't continue to break down the logic for you and your denying this does not make my claim a lie. You either accept your fallacy or you don't, it's not that important to me to keep Using My Time to explain it to you.

 

[Use of Time]

No, I simply rejected the argument as fallacious.

No, I simply rejected the argument as fallacious, and you went into defense mode declaring I had spun the argument.

SOunds like a typical Leftist argument to me: It's my fault for factually calling out the fallacy. Got it.

I saw above you wanted me to double down, so...

I've tried to explain where your reasoning unavoidably takes you but sorry I can't continue to break down the logic for you and your denying this does not make my claim a lie. You either accept your fallacy or you don't, it's not that important to me to keep Using My Time to explain it to you.

Guys, Benjamin rejected the argument no one was making in here and he himself interjected as fallacious. My hero.

Bye Benjamin. I’ve called out both sides here. Pretty much the only person in here willing to do that. You razor thin skinned Trumpies can’t even handle that without turning into an excuse factory. A major sign of insecurity. Be your own man.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

How can it be consensual when he says he didn’t even ask and just did it. I’m consistently amazed at what Christians will trivialize in support of politics.

Trivialize, huh? I’m amazed at your consistently mischaracterizing what is said. You have no such quote of explanation from him. Completely void of context and experience, you really can't say much about it, and you certainly don’t qualify to interpret. If you are really so naïve (perhaps not a bad thing here), then you really should just cease. In any case, it would not be appropriate to try to enlighten you here (I've heard more than I want to know).

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I’ve called out both sides here. Pretty much the only person in here willing to do that. You razor thin skinned Trumpies can’t even handle that without turning into an excuse factory. A major sign of insecurity. Be your own man.

No one is asking you to like the guy you voted for. But since you helped elect Trump, it seems you should understand the overall situation a bit better than you do.

 

[Use of Time]

Trivialize, huh? I’m amazed at your consistently mischaracterizing what is said. You have no such quote of explanation from him. Completely void of context and experience, you really can't say much about it, and you certainly don’t qualify to interpret. If you are really so naïve (perhaps not a bad thing here), then you really should just cease. In any case, it would not be appropriate to try to enlighten you here (I've heard more than I want to know).

Dude go read the transcript. It’s a lot worse than what I presented here. I can’t even quote it because I would have to spend half an hour sanitizing it for posting. Spoiler alert, he drops an f bomb too.