what I seem to be hearing, (I could be wrong)
fron a young Christian persons view; they continually hear from their non Christian friends or aqquaintences maybe something like this, " if youre God is such a loving and merciful God why did he destroy all those places and destroy the world with a flood? that don't sound like a loving and merciful god to me!" or something to that effect,and most young christians simply dont Know how to answer the question what the christian will try to do is justify God by trying to explain to their friends that God didnt really do all that bad stuff the bible says he did.the christian dont properly deal with the issue of the concequences of sin, instead they will try to skirt around the issue
Young folks Make NO MISTAKE God HATES sin!
and God poured out His Wrath on human many times
Because of SIN Period.
I think when evil begins to run so rampant that God Has no choice but to put an end to what man evidently cannot control.
Sin is also why Jesus had to come down from His throne and heaven and be a Lamb but when He returns he is returning as a Conquerer to once agin rid the plannrt from evil.
you dont have to believe it still dont Change the fact that is the truth according to the Bible people if this bible is not the word of truth from cover to cover it is all a big lie.
The issue is not one of translation, but of interpretation. Many of us use the same translation, but still are widely varied in interpreting things as benign as women and headcovering or the wearing of pants, use of alcohol, etc, and as debatable as differing forms of millenialism and dispensationalism. Even the issue of which day the Sabbath day is, or whether the Ten Commandments are in full effect today, are hotly contested interpretatioanl debates.
now you get to talking about all the legalisim, is nothing much more than a bunch of Church politicks and down right high-N-mighty self righteoussness! no one should care what another person wears as long as it is decent Jesus Didnt so why should we, Paul told Timothy to drink wine, If drinking wine is sinful why then would Jesus turn the water to wine? I could be wrong but it is ok to drink alcohol in moderation. Christian women were comanded to preach the gospel they just cant be a pastor.
there are 4 different Millineal views that I know of but I can guarantee you this, it will happen exactly according to Gods Soverign will and Not of Mans Theological interpritations.
the Sabbath day is pretty cut and dry; it is the 7th day of the week and most Baptist Worship God on sunday. I Rest On Saturday, on Sunday Go to Church for Worship, Dicipleship and fellowship and worship God continually thru the whole week.
I have a question for all these 7th day folks.
after Church service do you go out to a restauraunt to eat or go home and cook a meal.
although you attend a Sabbath worship service you have still broken the commandment by either buying or working so are you a sSabbath keeper or just another Sinner Saved by grace that goes to Church on Sunday instead of when every one else does?
Exedous 20:8-11 says 8. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
how are we supposed to keep the rest of the commandments when we cant even get this one right?
I think that where John Chapter 3 starts to make a lot of sence.
the Commandments are there to teach us what sin is so yes they are in effect, in effect that we know what sin is
How can we have the convicting power of the Holy Spirit to admonish us of our sins if we do not understand what sin is?
according to the law I am a lying thieving. lustful, Idoloterous God slandering covetous sabbath breaker!
But the Blood of Jesus!
folks this is what this whole book is about all sumed up in one single chapter.
1. There was a man named Nicodemus. He was a Jewish leader, one of the Pharisees.
2. This man came to Jesus at night. Nicodemus said to him, ``Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. No one could do these miracles which you are performing, if God were not with him.''
3. Jesus answered him, ``I am telling you the truth: If a person is not born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God!''
4. Nicodemus asked him, ``When a man is already old, how can he be reborn? It is not possible for him to go inside his mother's womb the second time and be born!''
5. Jesus answered, ``I am telling you the truth: If a person is not born from water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God!
6. What has been born from men is human. And what has been born from the Spirit is spiritual.
7. Don't be surprised because I said this to you: `You must be born again.'
8. The wind blows wherever it wishes. You hear the sound of it, but you don't know where it comes from or where it is going. It is the same way with everyone who has been born from the Spirit.''
9. Nicodemus answered Jesus, ``How can these things happen?''
10. Jesus answered him, ``Are you a teacher of the people of Israel, and you don't know these things?
11. I am telling you the truth: We are talking about what we know. We are telling the truth about what we have seen. But you are not accepting our truth.
12. Since I am talking to you about things on earth and you are not believing them, if I were to tell you about heavenly things, how could you believe?
13. I am the only one who ever came down from heaven; no one else has ever gone up to heaven.
14. Moses lifted up the snake in the desert . In the same way, I must be lifted high,
15. so that everyone who commits himself to me will have eternal life.''
16. God loved the people of the world so much that He gave up His only Son. Every person who commits himself to Jesus will not be destroyed. Instead, that person will have eternal life.
17. God did not send His Son into the world to judge it. God sent Jesus, so that the people of the world could be saved through him.
18. The person who commits himself to Jesus is not condemned, but the one who does not commit himself to Jesus has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God's only Son.
19. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness more than they loved light because the things which they were doing were evil.
20. Everyone who does evil hates the light. He does not come toward the light. He doesn't want his evil deeds to be exposed.
21. But the person who is living the truth comes toward the light. He wants his actions to become clear, because he did them for God.
22. After this, Jesus and his followers went to the land of Judea. He stayed there with them and he was immersing some people.
23. John was immersing people in the town of Aenon (which is not far from the town of Salim) because there was plenty of water there. People continued coming to be immersed.
24. (John had not yet been thrown into prison.)
25. There was an argument between some of John's followers and a Jewish man about making things pure.
26. They came to John and said to him, ``Rabbi, the man you have endorsed, who was with you on the other side of the Jordan River, look, he is immersing people, too. Everyone is coming to him!''
27. John answered, ``No one can receive anything if heaven has not given it to him.
28. You yourselves know that I told the truth when I said, `I am not the Messiah!' I have been sent ahead of him.
29. The groom is the one who will get the bride. The best man is the one who stands by and listens. He is glad when he hears the groom's voice. This is my joy; it is now complete.
30. Jesus must become more important; I will become less important.''
31. The one who comes from above is greater than all things. The person who comes from the earth belongs to the earth and talks about the earth. The one who comes from heaven is the most important.
32. He tells the truth about what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his proof.
33. The person who does accept his proof confirms that God is real.
34. God sent Jesus. Jesus speaks the words of God, because God gave him the Spirit without limit.
35. The Father loves the Son and has put everything in the Son's control.
36. The person who commits himself to the Son has eternal life, but the person who does not obey the Son will not see eternal life. Instead, God's punishment stays on that person.
Got Jesus?
[ December 23, 2004, 03:41 AM: Message edited by: Archeryaddict ]
