Today I burned a NWT

[stilllearning]

The other day I found a New World Translation of the “bible”(not really a Bible), and today I burned it in my BBQ grill. I regularly burn material that I find, produced by the JW’s or the Mormons etc. (Although I have not as yet, had the pleasure of burning a Koran.)

The reason for this post, is remind everyone that it is Biblically commanded to do so....
Titus 1:10-11
V.10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
V.11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

If I could, I would physically “shut the mouths” of every false prophet; But even though this is not possible, I(we) can destroy there lying literature.

 

[Salty]

So do you feel better

 

[preachinjesus]

We don't burn books, we write better books.

We don't burn heretical Bibles, we make better Bibles.

 

[JonC]

I don't have a problem with you wanting to burn books on your grill....it's an odd hobby, but I don't have a problem with it. I will mention, however, that you are taking that verse in Titus out of context by using it for support for that practice.

 

[Rippon]

You should have kept it for reference sake. You might encounter some JWs and getting familiar with the NWT would keep you better informed.

Are you going to fault James White for having heretical materials on-hand for purposes of knowing the beliefs of those he opposes? All of us are not called to that kind of ministry --but ordinary Christians should have some reference points with heterodox beliefs.

 

[OldRegular]

We don't burn books, we write better books.

We don't burn heretical Bibles, we make better Bibles.

What about the people who get one of those "heretical Bibles" and are wrongly influenced by it. Millions of people were wrongly influenced by the erroneous notes of the Scofield Bible, one of the first Bibles to include the notes with the text. I have personally witnessed people who either did not know or did not care where Scripture stopped and Scofield's comments started.

 

[OldRegular]

So do you feel better

Salty I believe stilllearning was motivated by your atavar, sorry avatar:

Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton

"The ... reality... today is that people are dying and going to Hell"
- Bob Jones III

WHEN YOU REMAIN SILENT YOU HAVE SPOKEN

 

[stilllearning]

I don't have a problem with you wanting to burn books on your grill....it's an odd hobby, but I don't have a problem with it. I will mention, however, that you are taking that verse in Titus out of context by using it for support for that practice.

Hello JonC

You said..........
I will mention, however, that you are taking that verse in Titus out of context by using it for support for that practice.

I don’t think so Jon. This verse immediately follows instructions to pastors and it’s talking about dealing with false teachers.
Now, you may be referring to the words, “....they of the circumcision:”

For sure, this is a reference to the Jews; But it is also a talking about anyone who teaches a “works-based gospel”, of which the JW’s and Mormons do.
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If you were talking about some other error I might be making, PLEASE let me know.

 

[JonC]

Hello JonC

You said..........
I will mention, however, that you are taking that verse in Titus out of context by using it for support for that practice.

I don’t think so Jon. This verse immediately follows instructions to pastors and it’s talking about dealing with false teachers.
Now, you may be referring to the words, “....they of the circumcision:”

For sure, this is a reference to the Jews; But it is also a talking about anyone who teaches a “works-based gospel”, of which the JW’s and Mormons do.
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If you were talking about some other error I might be making, PLEASE let me know.

I may be misunderstanding you.

The passage in Titus is speaking of qualifications of the overseer (elder, pastor). They are to hold fast to the teaching so that they can both exhort in sound doctrine and refute those who contradict. But this is within the context of being an elder (they are guarding against false doctrine within the church). “For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.”

My understanding was that you wanted to shut up these worldly leaders who are outside of the Church and pastoral responsibilities. But again, I may have misunderstood you, and if so, please accept my apology.

 

[Yeshua1]

What about the people who get one of those "heretical Bibles" and are wrongly influenced by it. Millions of people were wrongly influenced by the erroneous notes of the Scofield Bible, one of the first Bibles to include the notes with the text. I have personally witnessed people who either did not know or did not care where Scripture stopped and Scofield's comments started.

Those views of Scofield are NOT though heresys as the Mormons/JW hold with, but are merely another viewpoint, as some here would see strictly reformed views are being "not all biblically based"

 

[Salty]

... I have personally witnessed people who either did not know or did not care where Scripture stopped and Scofield's comments started.

Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Scofields notes were outside the margin of the Scripture?

 

[JonC]

Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Scofields notes were outside the margin of the Scripture?

I've also met people who took the commentary (MacArthur, Scofield, etc) as Scripture because it was in the Bible. I have yet to find a study Bible worth owning for its commentary.

 

[Salty]

I've also met people who took the commentary (MacArthur, Scofield, etc) as Scripture because it was in the Bible. I have yet to find a study Bible worth owning for its commentary.

Then they are very ignorant and or spiritually immature.

 

[JonC]

Then they are very ignorant and or spiritually immature.

Yes. They are conditioned by years of spoon feeding and Lifeway. And "study Bibles."

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Why did you waste the lighter fluid?

The other day I found a New World Translation of the “bible”(not really a Bible), and today I burned it in my BBQ grill. I regularly burn material that I find, produced by the JW’s or the Mormons etc. (Although I have not as yet, had the pleasure of burning a Koran.)

The reason for this post, is remind everyone that it is Biblically commanded to do so....
Titus 1:10-11
V.10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
V.11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

If I could, I would physically “shut the mouths” of every false prophet; But even though this is not possible, I(we) can destroy there lying literature.

 

[Salty]

Yes. They are conditioned by years of spoon feeding and Lifeway. And "study Bibles."

At least we know you are not biased against the SBC.

(Yes, I am be facetious)

 

[JonC]

At least we know you are not biased against the SBC.

(Yes, I am be facetious)

:laugh: Actually I am not biased against the SBC at all. In fact, I believe the SBC to be taking a biblical stance where other's are failing. I am, BTW, Southern Baptist...so I'm biased towards the SBC. BUT I'm a Southern Baptist that views Lifeway as one of the biggest contributors to biblical illiteracy in SBC churches. They are, of course, enabled by local churches that lean upon their materials...and some of their materials are good, but some are awful, superficial and irrelevant.

 

[OldRegular]

Then they are very ignorant and or spiritually immature.

And that is exactly how dispensationalism got a giant hold in the Baptist Church, the Churches of God, the Pentecostals, and to some extent in the Presbyterian Church. McGee was a strong classic dispensationalist and a Presbyterian preacher.

Like MacArthur he was worth listening to until he wondered into dispensational doctrine.

If you really want to see something weird look at the Dake Bible. He has comments top, bottom, and each side! You have to search to find what the Scripture really says.

 

[OldRegular]

Yes. They are conditioned by years of spoon feeding and Lifeway. And "study Bibles."

The SBC Sunday School literature is pathetic.

 

[T Alan]

Like MacArthur he was worth listening to until he wondered into dispensational doctrine.

John MacArthur has ALWAYS been a self described "leaky dispensationalist".
(as he should)