Tone Deaf Biden

[Revmitchell]

If you vote Republican you support the hypocrisy Republican in government are using to get your vote no matter what.

Uh not true

Accept the FACT that a Republican Supreme Court ruled on Roe vs. Wade. You consider getting Republicans into the court so obviously you think that's how to get things done, right? Well a 6 Republican - 3 Democratic SP in 1973 gave us Roe vs. Wade. They got it done all right.

Not relevant

If you supported needless murder in unnecessary and brutal wars of aggression started by the U.S. in Afghanistan and Iraq which resulted in the murder of hundreds of thousands of enemy combatants and innocent civilians you are not pro-life.

Uh not true those wars were not needless.

Lives count before birth. I agree. They also count after birth. You don't seem to understand that.

Not true. In fact what is true is that regardless of what other good one may do if they slaughter unborn children the other good is irrelevant. Ignoring the slaughter of unborn children under any circumstances is evil.

Also supporting the gun culture in the U.S.supports the increasing number of mass murders and suicides using guns. Abortion is important but it isn't the only factor in being pro-life.

Those killed by guns are far less than most any other thing. Picking out guns only makes you look suspicious. There is no immoral nature to this so called "gun culture" as you put it. Guns are tools that can be used for a number of things.

 

[Reynolds]

AR does not stand for assault rifle.

Nope. Who said it did? I use "ar" as a term to cover ar10 and ar15. It also umbrellas the newer 300, 27, 26, etc. Anything built according to the Armalite patent.

 

[Reynolds]

Nope - an AR is an Army Regulation!

Maybe now, but the term, prior to Colt buying rights to the Ar10 meant "Armalite." To me, they are still Armalite.

 

[HankD]

Namque pauci libertatem, pars magna iustos dominos volunt.

As it should be.

But at least here in America they/we have certain unalienable rights and a voice (or so it used to be).

HankD

 

[kyredneck]

Namque pauci libertatem, pars magna iustos dominos volunt.

Few men desire freedom, the greater part desire just masters.

As it should be.

But at least here in America they/we have certain unalienable rights and a voice (or so it used to be).

The 2nd amendment was intended as a fallback for freedom lovers against unjust masters. I'd say it REQUIRES unjust masters to kindle the freedom loving spirit.

Hope it never comes to that.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Many here are of the belief that the AR, AK, et al. families in their semi-auto versions have no "sporting" use to use a term from the 1968 Gun Control Act. However, in the last fifteen or so years, three gun and two gun competitions have developed along the lines of biathlon (skiing and shooting). Competitors compete using rifles and pistols. In three gun, the shotgun is added.

As for what is an "assault" rifle, over the years I've heard this definition:

A modern assault rifle:

• fires an intermediete cartridge.
• is selective fire. (The US M14 meets this, the M-1 doesn't)
• has a man made stock and hand guard (IOW, today designers are starting to use carbon fiber not just "plastic".
• a "pistol" grip. Though, some designs (e.g. the Steyr AUG and Tavor) use a bull-pup configuration.

 

[kyredneck]

the belief that the AR, AK, et al. families in their semi-auto versions have no "sporting" use

Lol, a lot of rednecks in these parts, me being one, would vehemently disagree. I've taken many deer with my SKS (open sights even) during modern gun season; the caliber being nearly identical to a 30-30, and very suitable for the hilly, wooded terrain here.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

KY, it's obvious you aren't one of the "many". The 5.56 cartridge is an excellent varmint round.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Here's a clip from a two gun match.

 

[Reynolds]

KY, it's obvious you aren't one of the "many". The 5.56 cartridge is an excellent varmint round.

Its Ok. I still shoot the .220 Swift.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

However, I don't know if anybody makes a Stoner or Kalishnikov system rifle in that caliber.

Its Ok. I still shoot the .220 Swift.

 

[kyredneck]

Its Ok. I still shoot the .220 Swift.

Actually the SKS caliber is 7.62x39mm.

During my 'bloodthirsty' younger days (I repent, I regret, but the farmers liked it), I hung buku groundhogs over the fence using a .22 mag and a .22-250 that my Dad built.

 

[Reynolds]

Actually the SKS caliber is 7.62x39mm.

During my 'bloodthirsty' younger days (I repent, I regret, but the farmers liked it), I hung buku groundhogs over the fence using a .22 mag and a .22-250 that my Dad built.

I know. I was referring to the 5.56.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Uh not true



Not relevant



Uh not true those wars were not needless.



Not true. In fact what is true is that regardless of what other good one may do if they slaughter unborn children the other good is irrelevant. Ignoring the slaughter of unborn children under any circumstances is evil.



Those killed by guns are far less than most any other thing. Picking out guns only makes you look suspicious. There is no immoral nature to this so called "gun culture" as you put it. Guns are tools that can be used for a number of things.

What did anyone gain by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Both countries are more unstable now then they were before these longest wars in U.S. history. These wars served as a training ground for ISIS and increased the radical Islamic hatred for America. They made the world a more not less dangerous place. America didn't gain anything in terms of a strategic advantage. A lot of people died and a lot of money was spent in a losing effort for everyone involved.

 

[Don]

What did anyone gain by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Both countries are more unstable now then they were before these longest wars in U.S. history. These wars served as a training ground for ISIS and increased the radical Islamic hatred for America. They made the world a more not less dangerous place. America didn't gain anything in terms of a strategic advantage. A lot of people died and a lot of money was spent in a losing effort for everyone involved.

So no definition of "assault rifle"; and now you're shifting the argument to the Middle East.

How about we address the *real* problems? Do you really believe that any of the recent mass shooters, if only able to obtain a double-barrelled shotgun, wouldn't have used such a weapon?

You can make the weapons hard to come by; but it's not the weapons that are the problem.

 

[Reynolds]

However, I don't know if anybody makes a Stoner or Kalishnikov system rifle in that caliber.

I could easily build an A.R. in Swift, but I have no need to. I shoot bolt action,

 

[FollowTheWay]

So no definition of "assault rifle"; and now you're shifting the argument to the Middle East.

How about we address the *real* problems? Do you really believe that any of the recent mass shooters, if only able to obtain a double-barrelled shotgun, wouldn't have used such a weapon?

You can make the weapons hard to come by; but it's not the weapons that are the problem.

I don't know much about guns. I would call an AR-15 an assault rifle (semi-automatic). With a bump stock it's fully automatic as I understand it. Somebody took a hard right on this thread on abortion. I made the point that murdering people after birth is a pro-life issue as well. Do you think mass murders could kill as many people with a shot gun? If that's not an issue for you why not ban them? I consider mass murders and the number of murders and suicides committed using guns in the U.S.a real issue. People talk about murders but suicides are a gun issue too. Do you think there would be as many suicides if guns weren't as prevalent? Think about killing yourself with a knife or running your car into a wall. I have a friend who put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Much easier with a gun.

 

[Reynolds]

I don't know much about guns. I would call an AR-15 an assault rifle (semi-automatic). With a bump stock it's fully automatic as I understand it. Somebody took a hard right on this thread on abortion. I made the point that murdering people after birth is a pro-life issue as well. Do you think mass murders could kill as many people with a shot gun? If that's not an issue for you why not ban them? I consider mass murders and the number of murders and suicides committed using guns in the U.S.a real issue. People talk about murders but suicides are a gun issue too. Do you think there would be as many suicides if guns weren't as prevalent? Think about killing yourself with a knife or running your car into a wall. I have a friend who put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Much easier with a gun.

Bump stock is not fully auto, neither is a binary trigger. You can outrun the bolt carrier with a binary.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Bump stock is not fully auto, neither is a binary trigger. You can outrun the bolt carrier with a binary.

Can a 'bump stock' make a AR-15 fire full-auto like a machine gun? (Yes. And it's relatively cheap, pretty easy, and completely legal)
Can a bump stock make an AR-15 fire like a machine gun? (Yes. And it's cheap, easy and legal to do)

 

[Reynolds]

Can a 'bump stock' make a AR-15 fire full-auto like a machine gun? (Yes. And it's relatively cheap, pretty easy, and completely legal)
Can a bump stock make an AR-15 fire like a machine gun? (Yes. And it's cheap, easy and legal to do)

An article written by an idiot. "Like fully automatic" and "fully automatic" are not the same. Do you know what fully automatic is? You are posting links and I am the person who kept our dept. m16a1, m16a2, and m4 rifles running for years. A bump stock is in my opinion a piece of garbage I could build in 15 minutes. Now, if you want to legally run fast, binary trigger is the way to go. It is still not fully auto.