Originally posted by Glorious:
Hi there Ms Mom of angels
I looked and looked at this, and did not quite understand your question.
Thus, I shall answer it the best that I can, and hope you get the answer you require.
IF what you are asking, do I believe in "Once Saved Always Saved", then no, I don't.
I believe God does have mercy, but if we show ongoing unwillingness and a turning away from Him, then we lose our salvation.
I hope that answers your question.
Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. I believe that at that moment in my life, when I had left the IFB Church for a more 'liberal' one that I also left my first Love. It was at that time that I slowly but surely lost my connection with God, and stopped praying and studying. By the time I started dating that guy, I was seeking worldly things (romance) rather than thinking of Godly things (marriage). I set myself up for temptation and when it came I was weakened.
I agree with you here, young lady. I don't necessarily mean I think salvation is LOST, but I agree a person in that state may have strayed from the safety of Gods protection.
Right! I didn't lose my Salvation until AFTER this happened and I COMPLETELY turned away from God, and blamed Him for the rape, and quit church all together. But at the moment of the rape I had taken myself out of fellowship with the Holy Spirit, thereby LOSING my gift of Discernment, and was walking in the flesh.
You spoke of "the temptation of the devil" also.
I wish to say here, not part of the topic, but would like to mention, that the devil gets credited for a lot of stuff which I think our own human fleshly nature should get the blame for.
I would say that I agree in part. We are all followed around day and night by demons. They are called familiar spirits in the Bible. It is what King Saul saw when he went to the witch of Endor. It is what that John guy on TV is encountering when he is able to bring up correct information for people. Those demons are constantly putting temptation in our path. When we are driving and we see a sign for beer, we are tempted. Did the sign tempt us? Ever hear a little voice, "oooh beer sure would taste good, and you would get so relaxed and would be able to sleep" and then you hear "but if you buy beer your husband will want it, and you know he has a problem with that", and then you decide? This is SO what happens. There are demons and Angels with every person on this earth. Protecting, and tempting, respectively. I think that we, more often, blame ourselves for sin, rather than doing what Christ did and RECOGNIZE that it is SATAN doing the tempting, and that we CAN resist that temptation, sin nature and all, by using God's Word. In that senario I just gave, my combat text is "Do not put an occasion to stumble in your brothers way". And you know what happens? That temptation leaves.
It's a little like that!
"My way or the highway", eh??
LOL. Not at all. From your post I assumed that you were taking a jab. The way that you asked made me think that you were questioning the possibility of the experiences given. Now that I know what you believe based on the 2 questions I asked, I can say, that you were sincerely confused by the way that I told the story.
Let me clarify.
I had discernment from DEMONS that were IN ME before I went to the girls home. When I repented THERE they left me. When I received the gift from the Holy Spirit it was then from God, and I could now see the demons for who they were.
Have you ever read that verse that says 'when a spirit is gone out of a man he walks through dry places seeking rest and finding none and when he returns to his 'home' he finds it empty, swept, and garnished, and he goes and brings back demons worse than himself, and goes back into that person, and the state of that person is then worse than before'?
That is precisely what happened to me. When I gave my heart to Jesus for the first time, the demons left, but the problem was, that I didn't ever really commit myself totally to Him at that time. I went out of that home and rebelled again.
When the demons that were in me saw me do this, they went and got some of their friends and came back and when I was raped and basically cursed God, they came back into me, and I was at least ten times worse than before.
It wasn't until nearly 3 years later and a marriage down the tubes, my discharge from the AF for Homosexual admission (a lie to get out so I could leave my abusive, adulterous husband), and at least 10 other relationships, that I FELL ON MY FACE before God and TRULY submitted my heart to Him.
It was at that moment that the demons left me, and the Holy Spirit returned, and GOD was in control instead of me.
I have not since then, allowed myself to grieve Him. I know that it can be done through wilful disobedience. I have done it before.
He is my Fortress against the wicked forces in this world. They attack me from all sides.
They know that I have a Testimony of Jesus Christ, and that my testimony is already responsible for people coming to Christ.
They want to see me fall.
Don't be so fast to discount the devil and the evil spirits. They know their fate. They know what is going to happen to them. They want to take as many of us with them as they possibly can.
To get back at God.
This is my life verse(s):
Ephesians 6: 10. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day,
and having done all, to stand. (!!!!!)
14. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with
truth, and having on the breastplate of
righteousness;
15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the
gospel of peace;
16. Above all, taking the shield of
faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17. And take the helmet of
salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the
word of God:
18. Praying always with all
prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and
watching thereunto with all
perseverance and supplication for all saints;
19. And for me, that utterance may be given unto me,
that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20. For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
I was telling my dad once how God had given me this gift, and so he gave me some books to read. They were like reading a story through my eyes. If you want a glimpse of what I experiece read This Present Darkness, and Peircing the Darkenss by Frank Peretti. He isn't the best author in the world or anything, and I don't know anything about him or his other work, but that series of books, are seriously like looking out through my eyes.
I hope that helped to clear up your questions!
God Bless
NE can. 
