Too free or not too free, that is the question.

[Ray Berrian]

TCassidy,

Does this hymn by Charles Wesley sound like a Calvinist or is it more Scriptural in its words?

The hymn title is: "Ye Thirsty For God."

'Ye thirsty for God, to Jesus give ear,
And take, through His blood, a power to draw near;
His kind invitation ye sinners embrace,
Accepting salvation, salvation by grace.

Sent down from above, Who governs the skies,
In vehement love to sinners He cries,
“Drink into My Spirit, who happy would be,
And all things inherit by coming to Me.”

O Savior of all, Thy Word we believe!
And come at Thy call, Thy grace to receive;
The blessing is given wherever Thou art.
The earnest of Heaven is love in the heart.

To us at Thy feet the Comforter give,
Who gasp to admit Thy Spirit, and live;
The weakest believers acknowledge for Thine,
And fill us with rivers of water divine.'

Charles penned these words. 'O Savior of all, Thy Word we believe!' Here again is the markings of a universal atonement available to all sinners but only experienced by those who believe in Jesus.

 

[TCassidy]

Originally posted by gb93433:
So is this a case of redefining English?

No, it is a case of understanding what the term "irresistible grace" means.

 

[TCassidy]

Originally posted by Ray Berrian:
The hymn title is: "Ye Thirsty For God."

Amen! Another fine Calvinistic hymn!

 

[AresMan]

Are there any hymns that Calvinists and Arminians would actually agree reflect a particular viewpoint?

 

[King James Bond]

You did not choose Me, but I chose you.” John 15:16

’Tis not that I did choose Thee,
For Lord, that could not be;
This heart would still refuse Thee,
Hadst Thou not chosen me.
Thou from the sin that stained me
Hast cleansed and set me free;
Of old Thou hast ordained me,
That I should live to Thee.

’Twas sov’reign mercy called me
And taught my op’ning mind;
The world had else enthralled me,
To heav’nly glories blind.
My heart owns none before Thee,
For Thy rich grace I thirst;
This knowing, if I love Thee,
Thou must have loved me first.

Josiah Conder

KJB

 

[Ray Berrian]

King James Bond,

Hymn or poem from Josiah Conder.

Apparently, this was not one of Charles Wesley's hymns.

 

[King James Bond]

Ray,

Yes, from Josiah Conder. What is your impression of it?

KJB