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Top Ten Reasons not to join a Reformed Baptist Church

InTheLight

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The list is filled with:

"There's no this, there's no that..."

"We don't do this, you won't find this here..."

etc.

Good list. I'll stay well far away.
 

Iconoclast

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The list is filled with:

"There's no this, there's no that..."

"We don't do this, you won't find this here..."

etc.

Good list. I'll stay well far away.

:laugh::laugh: if you just want activity...go to a circus, or theme park....the water rides are always fun:thumbs:
 

Iconoclast

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Confessions, creeds, and answering verses are meaningless, and a waste of time.

Are you really a baptist? You appear to be Catholic.

John

John,
You have some strange ideas:laugh:

Confessions, creeds, and answering verses are meaningless, and a waste of time.

Learning about God and His church ..in a way God has ordained ....is a waste of time:confused::confused:

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INTRODUCTION
Scriptures
“Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest
thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest
they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach
them thy sons, and thy sons’ sons…the LORD said unto
me…I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to
fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that
they may teach their children.” Deut. 4:9–10
“And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in
thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy
children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine
house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest
down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a
sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between
thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy
house, and on thy gates.” Deut. 6:4–9
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable
for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly
furnished unto all good works.” 2 Tim. 3:16–17
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2
Tim. 2:15
“…ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring
them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” Eph. 6:4
The Term “Catechize”
The English word “catechism” is derived from the Gk. verb katēchēo, “to
resound, teach orally, instruct by mouth.” This term originally had the idea of
“speaking down or from above” i.e., from actors on an elevated stage. It is a
compound of the preposition kata, “down, throughout, thoroughly” and the
verb ēchēo, “to sound,” the source of our English word, “echo.” There seems
to be in this etymology the idea of a responsive answer. Catechizing has the
connotation of thorough or repeated oral instruction, and is only one of
several related terms for instruction or teaching found in Scripture. The term
itself occurs eight times in the New Testament (twice as “informed” in Acts
21:21, 24, referring to word–of–mouth information):
“That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou
hast been catechized.” Luke 1:4.
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This man had been constantly catechized in the way of the Lord;
and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the
things of the Lord...” Acts 18:25.
“And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more
excellent, being constantly catechized out of the law...” Romans
2:18.
“Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my
understanding, that by my voice I might catechize others also, than
ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.” 1 Cor. 14:19
.
Let him who is being catechized in the word communicate unto him
who catechizes in all good things.” Gal. 6:6.
C. H. Spurgeon on Catechizing




QUESTION 1: Why use a catechism?
ANSWER: There are several reasons why churches, families and individuals
should make good use of a suitable catechism:
1. The use of a catechism is scriptural in principle and is based upon the
Divine mandate for biblical instruction in the Old Testament and also
the inspired example of the New Testament (Deut. 4:9–10; 6:4–9; Lk.
1:4; Gal. 6:6; Eph. 6:1–4). The question–and–answer format of
modern catechisms is incidental to the pervading scriptural principle
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of catechizing, which evidently consisted of repetitive oral
instruction, commitment to memory and an oral response.


Some Objections Against Catechizing Answered
OBJECTION ONE: Why, as Baptists, use a catechism? Do not catechisms
belong only to the Romanists, Lutherans or Reformed Christians
? We have
only one creed—the Bible! We will not and cannot put any literature on
par with the Scriptures, or add to the Word of God in any way.


Baptists used catechisms extensively and with much spiritual profit
until the past century. This objection itself demonstrates the sad
departure of some Baptists from their own doctrinal distinctives and
practice, and the ignorance of some modern Baptists concerning their
own history and spiritual heritage. Following are some of the more
well–known catechisms written and used by Baptists:
• Henry Jessey, Particular Baptist, A Catechism for Babes, or Little
Ones, 1652.
• Hercules Collins, Particular Baptist, The Orthodox Catechism
(adapted from the Heidelberg Catechism), 1680.
• Thomas Grantham, General Baptist, St. Paul’s Catechism (based
on the six principles of Hebrews 6), 1687.
• Benjamin Keach and William Collins, The Baptist Catechism,
1693.
• The Philadelphia Baptist Association of Particular Baptists
published a catechism appended to their Philadelphia Confession
of Faith, 1742.
• William Gadsby, Gospel Standard Baptist, published a catechism
entitled The Things Most Surely Believed Among Us, 1809.
• C. H. Spurgeon published A Baptist Catechism (compiled from
the Westminster Shorter Catechism and Keach’s Baptist
Catechism), 1855.
• The Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention
published two catechisms: the first by J. P. Boyce, A Brief
Catechism of Bible Doctrine (1864) and the second by John A.
Broadus (1892). The latter work was jointly published by both the
Southern Baptist Convention and the American Baptist
Publication Society.


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InTheLight

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:laugh::laugh: if you just want activity...go to a circus, or theme park....the water rides are always fun:thumbs:

The writer of the article is using the fact that we don't do anything as being a selling point. It's a strange way of trying to attract people to your side.
 

Iconoclast

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The writer of the article is using the fact that we don't do anything as being a selling point. It's a strange way of trying to attract people to your side.

ITL....

The article is an attempt at humor.....It was posted in the Reformed Baptist fellowship....which is usually very serious posting.....This was meant to be humor..sort of like .....you might be a redneck it...Jeff Foxworthy does
 

gb93433

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Romans 10:17, "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ."

Acts 19:8, "And he entered the synagogue and continued speaking out boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading them about the kingdom of God."

Acts 18:4, "And he was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath and trying to persuade Jews and Greeks."

Acts 26:28, "Agrippa replied to Paul, "In a short time you will persuade me to become a Christian."

Acts 28:23, "When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening."

2 Cor. 5:11, "Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade men, but we are made manifest to God; and I hope that we are made manifest also in your consciences."
 

Iconoclast

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You'll respond alright. :laugh: If you can get through the whole thing that is.

He looks sincere AmyG.....I have listened to dozens of these type sermons....
usually the same 6 verses....build the strawman....destroy the strawman....

Maybe i will be surprised this time:thumbsup:

If not.....that would mean.....he also has an adam who did not die in the fall, and he does not understand the covenant of grace...

I have learned to learn even from those who have a defective view....it is a challenge to identify the error. Once in awhile there is someone who actually does not abuse the scripture so badly......when they go to 2pet3:9...that is a giveaway.....1jn2:2.....etc....but I will listen and give it a chance!
 

saturneptune

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The doctrines of God's sovereignty and grace deserve a better name than the likes of Calvin. He had his hand in the Michael Servetus murder, and opposed it as a public relations ploy. His writings include infant baptism, and it is obvious he believed in theocracy. I cannot believe a Baptist would be proud of that name, reformed or not. One is not put to death for a difference of theological opinion. Since I was not there it is not fair to use words to characterize his life, but the words thug and theologically challanged come to mind.
 

Iconoclast

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The doctrines of God's sovereignty and grace deserve a better name than the likes of Calvin. He had his hand in the Michael Servetus murder, and opposed it as a public relations ploy. His writings include infant baptism, and it is obvious he believed in theocracy. I cannot believe a Baptist would be proud of that name, reformed or not. One is not put to death for a difference of theological opinion. Since I was not there it is not fair to use words to characterize his life, but the words thug and theologically challanged come to mind.

What was the law of the land? Were heretics to be executed by law?

I do not think that should be the law in our day, because we have no such commandment now.....if we were OT saints...we would be stoning most of the TBN guys daily....

Calvinism....is not about Calvin. It is about the teaching.
Calvin stands or falls before the Lord for his life,actions , beliefs.

He was only one man....one teacher....all human teachers have missed parts of the truth......God has not given all truth to anyone.....since the Apostles.

While he had some errors...to see he was theologically challenged is mis-guided. Anabaptists....who believed in believers baptism to their credit...had some horrendous theology....yet, we do not grasp fully the situation they were in...How many had access to the scriptures, how many were illiterate,persecuted ,etc....

I am glad for all the reformers,puritans etc, who rescued the truth of the gospel from roman corruption.
 

saturneptune

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What was the law of the land? Were heretics to be executed by law?

I do not think that should be the law in our day, because we have no such commandment now.....if we were OT saints...we would be stoning most of the TBN guys daily....

Calvinism....is not about Calvin. It is about the teaching.
Calvin stands or falls before the Lord for his life,actions , beliefs.

He was only one man....one teacher....all human teachers have missed parts of the truth......God has not given all truth to anyone.....since the Apostles.

While he had some errors...to see he was theologically challenged is mis-guided. Anabaptists....who believed in believers baptism to their credit...had some horrendous theology....yet, we do not grasp fully the situation they were in...How many had access to the scriptures, how many were illiterate,persecuted ,etc....

I am glad for all the reformers,puritans etc, who rescued the truth of the gospel from roman corruption.

My guess is that I am more Reformed than you, having been raised in a conservative Presbyterian Church. I have enough respect for the doctrines not to trash them with an unworthy name. Who cares what the law of the land was at the time? Was it right? Are our abortion laws right?

He had some errors? If someone was going to be executed, it should have been him. They had the same Scripture we do. His writings talk against church and state mixture, yet, he was in a position of church-state rule. Sounds kind of like Mitt Romney.
 
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