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[JosephBKuzara]

Church Leaders and the Use of Honorific Titles

You earn respect by your faithfulness to God in being a slave to others with humility in your service towards the spiritual maturity of the brothers, sisters and mothers in Christ not through an self appointed honorary title. That Jesus forbade, especially the title of Reverend which only God deserves. /QUOTE]

 

[JosephBKuzara]

Wow. Get over yourself. Also, if your "truth" cannot handle objective criticism (by which I mean, an objective and honest, in context look at the scriptures you used) to the point you refuse to counter it, maybe you need to revise what you consider to be "truth"

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I can handle criticism just fine and the truth being exclusive can aswell, I am used to people as yourself suppressing the truth for many reasons but I am not about to be deemed as evil because many don't want to embrace what they plainly see. And I have countered your claims that a Christian can give up in there walk in Christ through suicide or not. Suicide being one way one chooses to give up in what they thought was the the true faith when life gets too tough.


Those who do not want to accept the truth will always wage war against it and will passionately try to twist it to make it appear to be in there favor regardless how soundly I present it.

many of you want to argue that my claim is from silence alone without scriptural evidence. I have provided the pattern that contrasts saints from sinners in behavior whch is clearly seen in scripture that no saint is ever recorded following through with the sin of suicide in the entire Bible while other sins that we are capable of stumbling into are recorded. And then I proceeded with passages explaining why even through great suffering why such is shown to us.

Yet none of you want to believe me maybe because of personal events that took place in y'all's lives that prevents y'all from accepting such a revelation. Not because it cannot be understood by observation through scripture but because y'all do not want to embrace such a truth perhaps because knowing that your loved ones who followed through with it, you will have to consider them self-condemned when comparing there lifestyle to what is plainly observed of the behavior of saints through God's restraining power.

If you or anyone else continue to resist the truth without repentence, no matter how much it may offend or hurt you I am ordered by Paul the Apostle to avoid such a person as is stated in Titus 3:10-11

 

[Salty]

Church Leaders and the Use of Honorific Titles

You earn respect by your faithfulness to God in being a slave

So are you saying that the very first day - you walk into a new church - you do not respect the pastor? Are you saying he gets no respect until he earns it?? We can give respect to other - even it they dont deserve it!

to others with humility in your service towards the maturity of the brothers, sisters and mothers in Christ not through an self appointed honorary title. That Jesus forbade.

And where did Jesus forbid it?

When others disrespect you,
beware of the impulse to
win their respect
For their disrespect is not a
valuation of their worth
but a signal of their signal.
--Brendon Burchard

 

[evenifigoalone]

I can handle criticism just fine and the truth being exclusive can aswell, I am used to people as yourself suppressing the truth for many reasons but I am not about to be deemed as evil because many don't want to embrace what they plainly see. And I have countered your claims that a Christian can give up in there walk in Christ through suicide or not. Suicide being one way one chooses to give up in what they thought was the the true faith when life gets too tough.


Those who do not want to accept the truth will always wage war against it and will passionately try to twist it to make it appear to be in there favor regardless how soundly I present it.

many of you want to argue that my claim is from silence alone without scriptural evidence. I have provided the pattern that contrasts saints from sinners in behavior whch is clearly seen in scripture that no saint is ever recorded following through with the sin of suicide in the entire Bible while other sins that we are capable of stumbling into are recorded. And then I proceeded with passages explaining why even through great suffering why such is shown to us.

Yet none of you want to believe me maybe because of personal events that took place in y'all's lives that prevents y'all from accepting such a revelation. Not because it cannot be understood by observation through scripture but because y'all do not want to embrace such a truth perhaps because knowing that your loved ones who followed through with it, you will have to consider them self-condemned when comparing there lifestyle to what is plainly observed of the behavior of saints through God's restraining power.

If you or anyone else continue to resist the truth without repentence, no matter how much it may offend or hurt you I am ordered by Paul the Apostle to avoid such a person as is stated in Titus 3:10-11

So you still refuse to counter ANY of my posts where I debunk your use of scripture. Nearly all the verses you gave were ripped straight outta context, as I demonstrated, and the ones that weren't don't support your claims.

Lol. We're done here. Not gonna respond to any more of you nonsense unless you decide to man up and respond to my posts addressing your misuse of scripture

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[Yeshua1]

Yes your culture, but not


The sin of following through with suicide falls into the category of practicing sin which is an authentication that they did not believe in Christ and His provisions toward them. Thus salvation was never granted to them to begin with and why they continued in sin that led them to be defeated by it.

God is quite clear of His promises that He provides everything we need to not give up in our walk in Christ when suffering takes place. That even though we do suffer whether by mental or physical means unjustly and through learning obedience by His discipline and scourging we will not be defeated by sin but overcome and such is why no saint was ever recorded of following through with suicide being defeated by it as is those who practice sin. Which is recorded as a pattern of the unbelieving in scripture.

It is up to God to open all of your minds and persuade you if you all indeed are born again.

You must not have had the experience of having to deal with one who is facign terminal illness unto death, or has experience terrible trauma and loss and trying to cope with that...

I would fully agree with you that a Christian should not be taking their own life, but also realize that some times we still make bad and sinful decisions, and that is when we must trust in the grace of God!
I am also trying to get you to see the fallout that it can cause to family and friends left behind, as they need to hear and accept the Grace of God in that time!

 

[Yeshua1]

How? God is able to sustain His elect children from being defeated and overcome by sin, should that truth not instead encourage you to move forward while entrusting God to provide comfort, joy, hope ,peace, patience, endurance , faithfulness and endurance while we partake in Jesus' suffering instead of being comfortable with giving up because many have taught wrongly that it is ok?

God's grace does not save a person to then allow them to give up in there walk as a disciple of Christ and so this should cause dependence and trust in God to strengthen us in our time of need by His grace when we face weaknesses in our flesh.

This is why no saint in scripture is recorded following through with suicide, it is not an argument from silence as many have claimed toward me but a pattern of behavior a saint is not capable of following through with because of God's promises and gifts He provisions to gaurd our hearts and minds in order to remain faithful unto death to which will either result through God's discipline, by the hands of evil men and or by our own decaying health.

If anyone here is being tempted by demons with suicide by your own desire or by an intrusive proposition not from desire as what Jesus went through, submit to God and with faith petition to God to help you overcome such feelings so you can move forward.

Know that God will not allow his children to give up when suffering is purposed as a privilege to learn obedience and fulfill God's will to glorify Him.

Although discipline is not pleasant but painful it is for our good and even if you suffer unjustly God will give you strength to endure. Such suffering will not go unnoticed and God will provision for his children the ability to move forward.

God still has granted some free will to his own children, and sad to say, for a multitude of reasons, sometimes we still choose to sin and do the wrong thing!

 

[Yeshua1]

Church Leaders and the Use of Honorific Titles

You earn respect by your faithfulness to God in being a slave to others with humility in your service towards the maturity of the brothers, sisters and mothers in Christ not through an self appointed honorary title. That Jesus forbade.

My Senior pastor has earned 2 P.hd degrees, so not able to call him Dr randy then?