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Trade war escalates as China says it will impose tariffs on 128 US exports, including pork and fruit

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PREDICTION: Into posterity until the LORD returns the progressive left will continuously attempt to prove that there was collusion or some kind of conspiracy (with who knows who or what) by certain sectors of the right that propelled Donald Trump into the presidency.

The tariff war would seem to eliminate China and Russia as collusion partners.

Years down the road (unless the LORD returns) the Clinton machine will publish "NEW" and "LIKELY" theories complete with unnamed but trustworthy sources that - Yes it was true - Trump colluded with Macedonians and stole the election.
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The world is becoming more orwellian everyday.
 
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Wow, you are being so dishonest. When Trump beat all of them and became the nominee, you campaigned against him daily. You did it every single day. You were Hillary's best ally. Now you claim to support Trump's policies? Bull! Support him in 2020 then I'll believe you.
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I don't have to support a person to support the policies. Trump is a bad person. That is my point. Almost any other Republican would have championed the same policies as Trump.

I didn't support Hillary, I ripped into Hillary during the 2016 campaign.

And who knows? I may support him in 2020, if he's running. Or I may not vote for President, as I did in 2016.
 
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You'll better understand how dangerous Trump's trade policy is by looking at the U.S. stock market open today.
 
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You'll better understand how dangerous Trump's trade policy is by looking at the U.S. stock market open today.
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Just lovely, isn't it?

But I guess it's OK because Stable Genius declared in a tweet this morning that we are not in a trade war.

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FollowTheWay said:
You'll better understand how dangerous Trump's trade policy is by looking at the U.S. stock market open today.
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So we have had little to no tariffs on products coming from china while they have imposed high tariffs on our products going to them. Why should we tolerate this? Who thinks such a deal between countries is fair or reasonable. Part of the reason our manufacturers left the US us because in our country they could not compete globally. I just talked with someone from the solar industry and that industry is looking forward to the tariffs.
 
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That pork tariff is genius. The largest pork producer in the USA is fully Chinese owned.
They are desperate. China can't fight us in a trade war. We hold all the cards.
 
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So we have had little to no tariffs on products coming from china while they have imposed high tariffs on our products going to them. Why should we tolerate this? Who thinks such a deal between countries is fair or reasonable. Part of the reason our manufacturers left the US us because in our country they could not compete globally. I just talked with someone from the solar industry and that industry is looking forward to the tariffs.
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China is not singling out the US for tariffs. China assesses tariffs with almost all trading partners. The average tariff rate is 9.9%, call it 10%. They have free trade agreements with only a handful of nations, like Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, etc., nations in their general area of the world. Even then, there are still tariffs with these countries, though less than 10%.

Why should we tolerate tariffs on goods going into China?
What is the harm? Is our economy in trouble? Well, it was doing great until Trump decided to implement liberal, Democratic protectionist trade policies. Now the stock market has dropped nearly 10% and China is slapping more tariffs on US goods.

If you think the trade imbalance with China is a problem, then show us why it is a problem. Simply saying something isn't "fair" is not an argument. It's an emotional response. Trump's reaction and tariff policy reminds me of liberals that implement policy based on good intentions with scarcely a thought as to the outcomes and end result.
 
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Trump tariffs on appliances, electronics will hit American consumers, retailers warn
  • President Trump has proposed tariffs on more than 1,300 Chinese imports, such as flat-screen televisions and appliances.
  • Retailers that sell consumer electronics would be hurt the most, according to industry experts.
  • The tariffs also threaten to hike the cost of everyday items.
Trump tariffs on appliances, electronics will hit American consumers, retailers warn
 
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I have a feeling that wasn't going to cheer you up. FYI, we lost the trade war years ago under Clinton Bush and Obama.
 
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I have a feeling that wasn't going to cheer you up. FYI, we lost the trade war years ago under Clinton Bush and Obama.
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Please, for the umpteenth time of my asking this question--what harm has come to our economy because we run a trade imbalance with China? Why does it need to be fixed?
 
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Yay! The Dow is up 0.7%! Only 7.3%, or 1,150 points more to gain to get back to 25,350!
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Hmmm. And who got us to +25000 in the first place? Was it the same guy that improved the market 31% in his first year? The guy that started with a market under 20,000? That guy? The same guy that's saving manufacturing and restoring our labor force?

GREAT: 'Rip-roaring' job market adds another 241K in March...

Manufacturing Industry Strongest in Years...

Hawaii STRUGGLING With Very LOW Unemployment...

Forgive me, I think I'll trust that guy over you. DJI +200. :)
 
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Hmmm. And who got us to +25000 in the first place? Was it the same guy that improved the market 31% in his first year? The guy that started with a market under 20,000? That guy? The same guy that's saving manufacturing and restoring our labor force?

GREAT: 'Rip-roaring' job market adds another 241K in March...

Manufacturing Industry Strongest in Years...

Hawaii STRUGGLING With Very LOW Unemployment...

:)
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As has already been pointed out, the market rose in Trump's first year based on expectations of what he WOULD DO. Now that he's ACTUALLY DOING STUFF, the market doesn't really like it.

Forgive me, I think I'll trust that guy over you. DJI +200.
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I don't know how I enter into impacting the market, but I understand that the only way you know how to "argue" is to make personal fallacious attacks.
 
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As has already been pointed out, the market rose in Trump's first year based on expectations of what he WOULD DO. Now that he's ACTUALLY DOING STUFF, the market doesn't really like it.



I don't know how I enter into impacting the market, but I understand that the only way you know how to "argue" is to make personal fallacious attacks.
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Says the guy that can't refrain from nicknames.

And Trump has been promising tariffs for years. Checkmate.
 
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