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Trade war escalates as China says it will impose tariffs on 128 US exports, including pork and fruit

HankD

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Yeah, let us know when it gets back up to 25,350, which is where it was before he started this trade war.
And what what it when he took office?

November 8, 2016 17,901.33
January 20, 2017 19,827.25
 
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HankD

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I heard a talking head say:

If President Trump discovered a cure for cancer his haters would yell "HE'S KILLING THE ONCOLOGISTS!".
 

HankD

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The DJIA went up 1363.00 between 2014 and 2015

407.00 between 2015 and 2016

4437.00 since he has been in office even with the current loses due to China tariffs.

Closed at 24,264.30 today 4/4/2018.
 
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InTheLight

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The DJIA went up 1363.00 between 2014 and 2015

407.00 between 2015 and 2016

4437.00 since he has been in office even with the current loses due to China tariffs.

Closed at 24,264.30 today 4/4/2018.
Raw numbers mean next to nothing. Percent gain is the meaningful number.

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HankD

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Raw numbers mean next to nothing. Percent gain is the meaningful number.

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Jan 2014 16469.99
Jan 2015 17832.99
Jan 2016 17425.03

Nov 8, 2016 17,901.33
Jan 20, 2017 19,827.25

Closed at 24,264.30 today 4/4/2018.

You do the math and please give me your algorithm.

Check my numbers. You were correct, It's worse than I said 2015 - 2016 is negative -407,00
 

InTheLight

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24,505.22 Today's close 4/5/2018. Almost there
Looks like there will be a set back again today as Trump announced he's thinking of putting on fresh tariffs of (Dr. Evil voice, pinky touching chin), "100 Beal-yon Dollars".

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HankD

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Looks like there will be a set back again today as Trump announced he's thinking of putting on fresh tariffs of (Dr. Evil voice, pinky touching chin), "100 Beal-yon Dollars".

Ya, this is what happens when someone stands up against the bullies on the global block .

Trump would rather loose the money than pay it the bully as "protection".
 

InTheLight

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Ya, this is what happens when someone stands up against the bullies on the global block .

Trump would rather loose the money than pay it the bully as "protection".
Oh how I wish someone would explain how a trade imbalance with China is hurting our economy. Anyone? Unemployment is at 4.1%, lowest in 17 years. Interest rates are at near record lows. The stock market is setting new records. Consumer confidence is at a decade high point. How are we being bullied? What is terrible about the trade imbalance?

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HankD

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Oh how I wish someone would explain how a trade imbalance with China is hurting our economy. Anyone? Unemployment is at 4.1%, lowest in 17 years. Interest rates are at near record lows. The stock market is setting new records. Consumer confidence is at a decade high point. How are we being bullied? What is terrible about the trade imbalance?

It's a subjective matter and I don't like it.
 

Calminian

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Oh how I wish someone would explain how a trade imbalance with China is hurting our economy. Anyone? Unemployment is at 4.1%, lowest in 17 years. Interest rates are at near record lows. The stock market is setting new records. Consumer confidence is at a decade high point. How are we being bullied? What is terrible about the trade imbalance?

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I wish you could understand. It's really a no brainer. Why would you want the chicoms, an enemy of the US, to hold so much global power?
 

InTheLight

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I wish you could understand. It's really a no brainer. Why would you want the chicoms, an enemy of the US, to hold so much global power?
Now you are conflating two separate issues. And you are avoiding answering the question. Bonus: You are asking a leading question. Rush and Hannity have trained you well.

Have you stopped cheating on your taxes?

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InTheLight

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Dow is down over 400 points (1.7%) because Trump opened his big, fat, trap again. That wipes out the gains the market made over the two days he wasn't inflaming the trade war.

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Calminian

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Dow is down over 400 points (1.7%) because Trump opened his big, fat, trap again. That wipes out the gains the market made over the two days he wasn't inflaming the trade war.

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He we go gain. You only talk when it's down. Then when it rises you say it doesn't matter.
 

InTheLight

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He we go gain. You only talk when it's down. Then when it rises you say it doesn't matter.
You ignore the fact that Trump is picking winners and losers, that he signed a terrible spending bill, and that his tweets about Amazon and China adversely affect the market.

You say we gotta punish China for the trade imbalance because it just isn't fair, yet offer no proof that it is harming out economy.

Trump's tweets about China and Amazon, which sound like a Bernie Sanders policy position, ARE harming our economy.

(And once again you ignore the point and make a personal attack. It's what you do.)

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InTheLight

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And you ignore the fact that China for foreign governments had been picking winners and losers for decades. Funny how that doesn't bother you.
The leader of the world's largest economy is picking winners and losers WITHIN that economy, and that doesn't bother you at all.

His tweets are causing people's portfolios to lose value on a nearly daily basis. Doesn't bother you.

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Calminian

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The leader of the world's largest economy is picking winners and losers WITHIN that economy, and that doesn't bother you at all.

His tweets are causing people's portfolios to lose value on a nearly daily basis. Doesn't bother you.

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Sooooo, you're saying other countries can pick winners and losers because they're not as powerful as us? Makes no sense at all.

And portfolios are fine. Trump's market is the best in years. You worry too much. Did you see the gains that last 3 days? It'll roar back, just as it always does.
 
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