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Trinity

Charlie24

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Yep. JonC can't remember last week very well, so he isn't overly concerned about what happened before the beginning.

If I found out what happened before the beginning I wouldn't be able to remember it now. Lol.

Don't get old, it's not good.
 

37818

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The Word was both "with God" (being someone else, John 1:1,2) and "the Word was God" (John 1:1).
 

37818

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John said, "In the beginning," he's referring to the beginning of creation.

His point is that Christ existed at that time, and later we learn He/Christ is the Creator Himself.

This is what @JonC has been warning us about, this part right here.

Most scholars will tell you this is referring to Christs' eternal state as the Eternal Logos.

But as I'm sure Jon will point out it doesn't say that, and he will be right.
Yes, what we got is, "In the beginning was the Word."
 

37818

Well-Known Member
I am trying to understand your position here.

Before the beginning, what do you view the relationship between the Persons of the Trinity to have been?

I know the answer "God", but I mean are you saying that God became a Triune God at the beginning of Creation?
Yes, what we got is, "In the beginning was the Word."
We know "the Word was God." But twice said to also be someone else "with God." John 1:1-2. And as God was the Creator, John 1:3.
 

JonC

Moderator
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We know "the Word was God." But twice said to also be someone else "with God." John 1:1-2. And as God was the Creator, John 1:3.
I am aware that at Creation we see God, the Word, and the Spirit of God.

I was asking about what you think tge case was before Creation.
 
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