AwesomeMachine
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I want to thank all participants in this discussion thread for confirming that there is no rational evidence to confirm the OP title.
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Trump is God's Punishment Upon America?
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Post your evidence. Videos of the President making remarks saying he wants to take health care away from millions of needy people (in fact, he wants the opposite. He wants to fix the ACA but the RINOS in Congress keep blocking the legislation). Or saying he wants to cut Medicaid. He doesn't. Medicaid is managed by the states and they all do it differently. He wants a uniform management. Or that he wants to cut Medicare or Social Security. He doesn't. He wants to cut Medicare fraud and waste. More power to him. If you have no video a voice recording will suffice. If you have none then a confirmed statement in print (not what some lefty reporter said, but something he actually said).
You can stand with Trump and explain that to the Lord at the Judgment.
You're not making any sense. Since your premise was built on lies you have no ground to stand upon.
Still waiting for you to post your evidence.
Follow the real news instead of Breitbart and Fox. More proof is being identified almost every day as a part of the several ongoing investigations involving Trump, his son, etc. here's a good place for some background:
A guide to the five major investigations of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia
Have you been reading this thread. Nothing of the sort has been displayed.
Easier than explaining standing with per abominable agenda of the Democrats.
Still waiting for you to post your evidence.
AwesomeMachine
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Yes, I've read everything in the discussion thread. I know what the news media has been saying. That doesn't make it true. The news media is not a reliable source of information. Feeding the liberal news to democrats is like giving kids nothing but candy to eat and telling them it's good for them.
Of course they're going to eat it. But it's not good for them. It's devoid of nutritional value. News broadcasts are devoid of news. John Stewart--a committed democrat--told the news media, over their angst with the President, "Take up a hobby. I recommend journalism."
The news media is running a freak show. Brietbart is truthful, it just doesn't cover the news. Fox is truthful, but it's sensationalistic. Cnn, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS news broadcast over 90% negative news about the President. Fox is 48% negative and 52% positive, which is much more balanced.
I think democrats don't like Fox News simply because it is the truth. Liberal news media frequently calls into question the President's mental health. But the President demonstrates no signs of mental-health issues. The journalists' mental health can be called into question, because they cannot employ reason or rationally evaluate factual information. They act like paranoid-psychotic crybabies!
So, nothing I've read in this thread rationally proves anything bad about President Trump. People can say anything they want. I asked for rational evidence. Is there anything President Trump says or does, not empty, groundless accusations from a freaked out press, that would lead anyone to believe he wants something bad for the American people?
I have seen no evidence presented to substantiate he wants something bad for the American people.
AwesomeMachine
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Perhaps, but President Trump has had no illegal activity. It's perfectly legal if Donald Trump said to the Russians, "Sure, release whatever you have on Clinton and the DNC." If that swayed the election, too bad. It's not against the law. If Donald Trump said to the Russians, "I'll pay you a million dollars to hack into some computers and publish whatever bad thing you find on my opponent," that would be illegal.
But if the Russians said, "We're going to hack into some computers to see if we can find any dirt on your opponent, and if we do we're going to publish it," and the President said, "OK." That's perfectly legal. Democrats oppose law and order, so they don't know the law.
Consequently, they go daffy over the Russian collusion news stories, even though there is no illegal activity being discovered. It's shameful ignorance!
None of the accusations thus far prove any wrongdoing. They're just groundless accusations for things that are perfectly legal. Trump isn't worried. He knows he didn't break the law. If there was anything to discover, it would have been discovered by now. And, if the Russians were only revealing the truth to the American public, they were doing us a favor, because it helped voters to make a more informed choice. I thought that was a good thing.
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AwesomeMachine
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I give people the benefit of the doubt. If they read the truth and deny it, they can't later claim they didn't know.
So where do you get your information about what's happening in the world? Do you care? One of Trump's advisors said there are no more facts, only ratings. Agree?
So now you're the judge and jury. The expert on the constitution? I'll leave the investigation up to Mueller especially and the members of the Congress.
AwesomeMachine
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I know enough about the law to make my points. But I'm not an expert. The investigation won't produce anything unless the President violated the law.
Congress determines what the laws are, but once the law is passed, congress has to follow it. And, there are no ex post facto laws permitted in the United States. So, even if what the President did became illegal at some later time, he can't be found guilty. And, Investigators simply investigate. The don't determine what the law is.
AwesomeMachine
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I get my news mostly online. It's faster to read news than it is to listen to it.
There is plenty of evidence for obstruction of Justice which is one of the things Nixon was charged with. Collaboration with the enemy to change the result of an election would be serious if proven.
There is none, zilch, nada, zero evidence.