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Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

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Adonia

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Have BLM or Antifa committed mass murder, then? As and when they do, come back to me on the moral equivalence point. Until then, it's a redundant lie which enables the Nazis and Klan, as David Duke confirmed in his comment on Trump's statement yesterday.

The BLM and ANTIFA look to the communists for their political inspiration. Surely you remember them, people like Mao (60 million dead), like the Khmer Rouge (millions more dead), and big Joe Stalin ( 20 million dead). That's the people who they emulate and the communist type of government they would like to establish here.

So yes, there is a moral equivalence between violent ANTIFA/BLM (pigs in a blanket/ fry like bacon) folks and the white KKK supremacists.
 
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Matt Black

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LOL. Democracy now. Cornel West. LOL.

Never happened.
Do you mean he never said it? Because you can watch the interview if you think the transcript is bogus. Or do you mean he's a liar? Because he could have lied a lot more powerfully if he was telling pokies. His account has been backed up by others who were there, unlike you and I who were not.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Mark Romano said it best.

Two hate groups fight in public.

One group got blamed.

Why ?

Because the media is a part of one of the hate groups.
 

Matt Black

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Using the reasoning of the left, the Democrat Party should be outlawed because they were the one's who supported slavery, segregation and Jim Crow laws. Anything tied to the past should be removed from our society, so that should include the them.
I think you'll find that the Democrats effectively repented from that past (Civil Rights Act, anyone?). I'm not aware of the Nazis and KKK abandoning the achieving of white supremacy by violence. Are you?
 

Adonia

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I think you'll find that the Democrats effectively repented from that past (Civil Rights Act, anyone?). I'm not aware of the Nazis and KKK abandoning the achieving of white supremacy by violence. Are you?

But the Democrats refuse to call out and condemn the current left wing violence. The Democrats fought against the Civil Rights laws in the 1960's and they were passed largely by the Republicans.
 

Matt Black

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The BLM and ANTIFA look to the communists for their political inspiration. Surely you remember them, people like Mao (60 million dead), like the Khmer Rouge (millions more dead), and big Joe Stalin ( 20 million dead). That's the people who they emulate and the communist type of government they would like to establish here.

So yes, there is a moral equivalence between violent ANTIFA/BLM (pigs in a blanket/ fry like bacon) and the white KKK supremacists.
No there isn't. The actions of a few fringe extremists do not inform the principle stated aim of the groups, which are laudable: in the case of BLM, to stop the disproportionate number of blacks being gunned down by the police and, in the case of the anti fascist movement, to...er...oppose fascism, Naziism and white supremacist militias (which, from.a Christian perspective, makes them the Good Guys, hence why so many Christian ministers support them).

So, persist with your false moral equivalence if you will, but you will be rightly challenged if you do.
 

Adonia

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I think you'll find that the Democrats effectively repented from that past (Civil Rights Act, anyone?). I'm not aware of the Nazis and KKK abandoning the achieving of white supremacy by violence. Are you?

No one here is defending what the KKK/white supremacist stand for or do. The violent left wing organizations MUST be called out and condemned in no uncertain terms!
 

Matt Black

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No one here is defending what the KKK/white supremacist stand for or do. The violent left wing organizations MUST be called out and condemned in no uncertain terms!
False moral equivalence which enables the Nazis. David Duke sends his thanks. Keep digging...
 

Adonia

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No there isn't. The actions of a few fringe extremists do not inform the principle stated aim of the groups, which are laudable: in the case of BLM, to stop the disproportionate number of blacks being gunned down by the police and, in the case of the anti fascist movement, to...er...oppose fascism, Naziism and white supremacist militias (which, from.a Christian perspective, makes them the Good Guys, hence why so many Christian ministers support them).

So, persist with your false moral equivalence if you will, but you will be rightly challenged if you do.

Go to the BLM website and see what they espouse. They are a communist inspired group aligned with the sexual identity movement. You are ignorant my friend, Nazism is socialism, not world socialism, but national socialism. What we really have here are two sects of socialism vying for power and attempting to silence those who do not agree with them and I reject them both.
 

Adonia

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False moral equivalence which enables the Nazis. David Duke sends his thanks. Keep digging...

True moral equivalence, so keep trying to deny it - it's true. When the violent left is not called out it is a victory for them and enables them. Violence and hatred is evil and both sides are guilty.
 

Matt Black

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Both BLM and Antifa are a coalition of disparate groups united by the common maxim of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'. As such, there will inevitably be fringe elements espousing kookie causes. But their basic aims - to combat racism and fascism - are ones which I hope all Christians can get behind.

Not so the Nazis. We know what they do...

No. Comparison.
 

Adonia

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I think you'll find that the Democrats effectively repented from that past (Civil Rights Act, anyone?). I'm not aware of the Nazis and KKK abandoning the achieving of white supremacy by violence. Are you?

The Democrat icon, the late Sen. Robert C. Byrd was using the "N" word right to the end - that's repentance? The direct quote was: (From his mother) "Robert, there are white N#####s". Nice, very nice!
 

Adonia

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Both BLM and Antifa are a coalition of disparate groups united by the common maxim of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'. As such, there will inevitably be fringe elements espousing kookie causes. But their basic aims - to combat racism and fascism - are ones which I hope all Christians can get behind.

Not so the Nazis. We know what they do...

No. Comparison.

Go ahead, keep defending them. That speaks volumes about you.
 

Matt Black

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Keep spouting your false moral equivalence. That speaks volumes about you, for which David Duke undoubtedly thanks you.
 

Matt Black

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Anyone who fights Nazis is a Good Guy as far as I'm concerned, as a starting point. I'm astonished that this is even in doubt on a Christian discussion forum, but we live in strange times...
 
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