Yes. Until they break a law, they have the right to assemble and spout off whatever nonsense they like.
I'm sorry freedom is scary.
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Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack
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I'm sorry freedom is scary.
But not free speech for all? Got it.
And here we have it.
News flash: SUPPORTING FREE SPEECH DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SUPPORT THE KKK, NAZIS, WHITE NATIONALISM...
If American citizens who are Jihadis, or Black Separatists, or Scientologists, or whatever want to have a rally, and they do so within the boundaries of the law, then they have that right.
You would think that Baptists, a group that has suffered greatly in the past for espousing an unpopular belief, would understand this.
(And I fully expect the "But do you support xxxxx?" attacks to continue. Lol...)
News flash: SUPPORTING FREE SPEECH DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SUPPORT THE KKK, NAZIS, WHITE NATIONALISM...
If American citizens who are Jihadis, or Black Separatists, or Scientologists, or whatever want to have a rally, and they do so within the boundaries of the law, then they have that right.
You would think that Baptists, a group that has suffered greatly in the past for espousing an unpopular belief, would understand this.
(And I fully expect the "But do you support xxxxx?" attacks to continue. Lol...)
I am for free speech for all. However, I am opposed to those who would limit the speech of others, who preach hatred of others, who would like to subjugate others, who would discriminate against any who disagree with them.
Do you agree?
As a Christian how can you defend the KKK and White Supremacists?
Do you believe the white race is superior to all others?
Lol. Did you seriously just ask me that?
You know next to nothing about me, but you want to level a charge that I'm a KKK/Nazi/White Supremacist?
Freedom is not a licence to spout hatred against a particular ethnic group. I'm sorry you evidently can't see that.
Do you therefore support the anti fascist movement? Were you on the picket lines with other Christians on Saturday?
What court ruling are you referencing?
I do not support Antifa because they are violent thugs, children looking for a chance to crack skulls. They revel in violence.
I wasn't on the picket lines because I am not needed. Nazis and the Klan are not taking over the country by armed force. If they were, by the very nature of my profession, I would be on the front lines, not the picket lines.
I have sworn to uphold the Constitution. If you (or any Americans, rather) don't like the law, there are mechanisms to change it.
It's that simple. Quit trying to make it difficult. Everyone has to right to assemble and spout off nonsense. When they get physical, either side, they should be arrested.
Do you have freedom to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre?
Yes, I am serious.
If I knew all about you I would not have to ask the question.
Do you agree with the stated goals of the KKK and White Supremacists?
Do you believe any one race is superior to all others?
Because that really worked in Germany in 1932. If your Constitution really says what you say it says, then it is as broken as that of Weimar Germany and I really fear for our future
Do you think these thugs care one jot for your precious Constitution? Because if you do then I have a bridge to sell you...
Constitutions won't protect you from these guys...The only thing that will is that which our father and grandfathers used against them 75 years ago.
Constitutions won't protect you from these guys...The only thing that will is that which our father and grandfathers used against them 75 years ago.
The courts have placed limits on speech. For instance it is illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater if there is no fire.
Courts have ruled the following partial list is not protected speech:
- advocating the use of force in promoting lawlessness.
- incitement to suicide.
- false statements is not protected
- libel is not protected
- slander is not protected
- obscene speech is not protected
- fighting words are not protected -- that is speech that incites a breach of peace
- causes severe emotional distress
- false advertising is not protected
I am responsible for my own actions, not the actions of thugs.
You are responsible if you do not oppose such people. You defense is like that of many German citizens after WW II.
That would be a sin of omission.
Do you believe that I can support a Nazi or Klan members right to free speech without being a Nazi or Klan member?
Because if you've already made up your mind, I don't see the point in answering. You can answer my question, that'll let me know if there's any point in answering yours.
You're responsible for not standing up to them. "Evil prospers where good men do nothing."
If you ever wondered what you would have done in the Holocaust or Civil Rights era, you're doing it now. Niemoller is particularly instructive here.
Ah, calling me a Nazi again. What nice things we say about each other.
Look, there is no widespread Fascist movement taking over the USA. So these comparisons to 1930s Germany are ridiculous. America is not under an existential threat from fascism.
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